Israel land grab law 'ends hope of two-state solution'
- Thread starter سيف الله
- Start date
- Replies 727
- Views 197K
British Wholesales - Certified Wholesale Linen & Towels | Halal Food Gastronomy | vBulletin 4 php 8.0 patch
Futuwwa
IB Expert
- Messages
- 1,247
- Reaction score
- 113
- Gender
- Male
- Religion
- Islam
And if the Palestinians won't peacefully go away and instead choose to resist being peacefully ethnically cleansed, I suppose they are at fault for there not being peace, eh?
Salaam
Another update
Oh and this
Another update
Oh and this
Salaam
More comment
Sixty dead in Gaza and the end of Israeli conscience
When will the moment come in which the mass killing of Palestinians matters anything to the right? When will the moment come in which the massacre of civilians shocks at least the left-center? If 60 people slain don't do it, perhaps 600? Will 6,000 jolt them?
When will the moment come in which a pinch of human feeling arises, if only for a moment, toward the Palestinians? Sympathy? At what moment will someone call a halt, and suggest compassion, without being branded an eccentric or an Israel hater?
When will there be a moment in which someone admits that the slaughterer has, after all, some responsibility for the slaughter, not only the slaughtered, who are of course responsible for their own slaughter?
Sixty people killed didn't matter to anyone - perhaps 600 would? How about 6,000? Will Israel find all the excuses and justifications then also? Will the blame be laid on the slain people and their "dispatchers" even then, and not a word of criticism, mea culpa, sorrow, pity or guilt will be heard?
On Monday, when the death count spiked alarmingly, Jerusalem celebrated the embassy and Tel Aviv rejoiced over Eurovision, it seemed that such a moment will never come again. The Israeli brain has been washed irrevocably, the heart sealed for good. The life of a Palestinian is no longer deemed to be worth anything.
If 60 stray dogs were shot to death in one day by IDF soldiers, the whole country would raise an outcry. The dog slaughterers would be put on trial, the nation of Israel would have devoted prayers to the victims, a Yizkor service would be said for the dogs slaughtered by Israel.
But on the night of the Palestinians' slaughter, Zion rejoiced and was jubilant: We have an embassy and a Eurovision. It's difficult to think of a more atrocious moral eclipse. Neither is it difficult to imagine the reverse scenario: 60 Israelis are killed in one day and the crowds celebrate the embassy in Ramallah and rejoice over a concert in El Bireh to cheer the winning of the Arab "A Star is Born," while television hosts and interviewees giggle during the live broadcasts. Oh, those Palestinian animals, oh, the monsters.
On the eve of this black Monday, I found myself sitting in one of the television studios beside a giggling right-winger. Giggling isn't the right term, he was bursting with laughter. It made him laugh so hard, the mass killing, and he found it even funnier that someone was appalled by it. Israel Hayom opened with the "Shehecheyanu" blessing in its main headline about another matter, unaware of the dark irony. Yedioth Ahronoth held a learned discussion over whether Hamas leaders should be eliminated now or not, who's in favor of the murder and who's against it. Imagine a discussion in a Palestinian newspaper: for and against murdering Gadi Eizenkot.
The truth is that Israel is well prepared to massacre hundreds and thousands, and to expel tens of thousands. Nothing will stop it. This is the end of conscience, the show of morality is over. The last few days' events have proved it decisively. The tracks have been laid, the infrastructure for the horror has been cast. Dozens of years of brainwashing, demonization and dehumanization have borne fruit. The alliance between the politicians and the media to suppress reality and deny it has succeeded. Israel is set to commit horrors. Nobody will stand in its way any longer. Not from within or from without.
Apart from the usual lip service, the Trump-era world won't lift a finger, even when Gaza becomes, heaven forbid, Rwanda. Even then our observers and analysts will recite that the IDF has accomplished its goals, that the IDF displayed restraint, that it's the most moral and "what would you suggest doing instead?"
The chief of staff would be crowned man of the year, the moderate, good man, the opposition would tweet their applause. In the town square the "leftist" singer's victory will be celebrated, nobody would even think of canceling the party going on, or at least set aside a moment for the dead.
We're already there. That moment is here. Rwanda is coming to Gaza and Israel is celebrating. Two million human beings we've imprisoned already, and their fate matters to no one. The pictures that occasionally flicker of children without electricity and parents without water, of crippled people being shot to death and of leg amputees, all children of refugees from the 1948 disaster we landed on their heads.
What has that to do with us? It's Hamas' fault. Sixty individuals killed in one day, and not a shred of sorrow has been sighted in Israel. From now on, it never will be.
http://johnpilger.com/articles/sixty-dead-in-gaza-and-the-end-of-israeli-conscience
More comment
Sixty dead in Gaza and the end of Israeli conscience
When will the moment come in which the mass killing of Palestinians matters anything to the right? When will the moment come in which the massacre of civilians shocks at least the left-center? If 60 people slain don't do it, perhaps 600? Will 6,000 jolt them?
When will the moment come in which a pinch of human feeling arises, if only for a moment, toward the Palestinians? Sympathy? At what moment will someone call a halt, and suggest compassion, without being branded an eccentric or an Israel hater?
When will there be a moment in which someone admits that the slaughterer has, after all, some responsibility for the slaughter, not only the slaughtered, who are of course responsible for their own slaughter?
Sixty people killed didn't matter to anyone - perhaps 600 would? How about 6,000? Will Israel find all the excuses and justifications then also? Will the blame be laid on the slain people and their "dispatchers" even then, and not a word of criticism, mea culpa, sorrow, pity or guilt will be heard?
On Monday, when the death count spiked alarmingly, Jerusalem celebrated the embassy and Tel Aviv rejoiced over Eurovision, it seemed that such a moment will never come again. The Israeli brain has been washed irrevocably, the heart sealed for good. The life of a Palestinian is no longer deemed to be worth anything.
If 60 stray dogs were shot to death in one day by IDF soldiers, the whole country would raise an outcry. The dog slaughterers would be put on trial, the nation of Israel would have devoted prayers to the victims, a Yizkor service would be said for the dogs slaughtered by Israel.
But on the night of the Palestinians' slaughter, Zion rejoiced and was jubilant: We have an embassy and a Eurovision. It's difficult to think of a more atrocious moral eclipse. Neither is it difficult to imagine the reverse scenario: 60 Israelis are killed in one day and the crowds celebrate the embassy in Ramallah and rejoice over a concert in El Bireh to cheer the winning of the Arab "A Star is Born," while television hosts and interviewees giggle during the live broadcasts. Oh, those Palestinian animals, oh, the monsters.
On the eve of this black Monday, I found myself sitting in one of the television studios beside a giggling right-winger. Giggling isn't the right term, he was bursting with laughter. It made him laugh so hard, the mass killing, and he found it even funnier that someone was appalled by it. Israel Hayom opened with the "Shehecheyanu" blessing in its main headline about another matter, unaware of the dark irony. Yedioth Ahronoth held a learned discussion over whether Hamas leaders should be eliminated now or not, who's in favor of the murder and who's against it. Imagine a discussion in a Palestinian newspaper: for and against murdering Gadi Eizenkot.
The truth is that Israel is well prepared to massacre hundreds and thousands, and to expel tens of thousands. Nothing will stop it. This is the end of conscience, the show of morality is over. The last few days' events have proved it decisively. The tracks have been laid, the infrastructure for the horror has been cast. Dozens of years of brainwashing, demonization and dehumanization have borne fruit. The alliance between the politicians and the media to suppress reality and deny it has succeeded. Israel is set to commit horrors. Nobody will stand in its way any longer. Not from within or from without.
Apart from the usual lip service, the Trump-era world won't lift a finger, even when Gaza becomes, heaven forbid, Rwanda. Even then our observers and analysts will recite that the IDF has accomplished its goals, that the IDF displayed restraint, that it's the most moral and "what would you suggest doing instead?"
The chief of staff would be crowned man of the year, the moderate, good man, the opposition would tweet their applause. In the town square the "leftist" singer's victory will be celebrated, nobody would even think of canceling the party going on, or at least set aside a moment for the dead.
We're already there. That moment is here. Rwanda is coming to Gaza and Israel is celebrating. Two million human beings we've imprisoned already, and their fate matters to no one. The pictures that occasionally flicker of children without electricity and parents without water, of crippled people being shot to death and of leg amputees, all children of refugees from the 1948 disaster we landed on their heads.
What has that to do with us? It's Hamas' fault. Sixty individuals killed in one day, and not a shred of sorrow has been sighted in Israel. From now on, it never will be.
http://johnpilger.com/articles/sixty-dead-in-gaza-and-the-end-of-israeli-conscience
Correct. I have no sympathy for them.
Salaam
Heh whats happened to the quality of hasbra trolling? They don't even make a effort anymore.
The sociopaths at the Economist weigh in with their 'considered' opinion.
The Economist’s front page betrayed the victims of Gaza. But the truth is much stronger.
The Economist’s latest front cover shows a provocative image of a young boy firing a slingshot. It leads with the headline: Gaza: There is a better way.
Social media has now responded to this naked bias, saying: ‘Yes, there is a better way’.
“Fixed it!”
On 14 May, Israeli troops killed at least 60 Palestinian protesters. The extent of the violence was so great that, on 18 May, the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) voted to investigate violations of international law in Gaza. It suggested that Israel’s actions were “wholly disproportionate”.
In response to the Economist‘s front cover, Media Lens had the perfect response on Twitter:
There has been widespread condemnation of the violence. Because over 2,400 people were injured as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) opened fire. Children and a baby are among the dead and injured. But Israel and the US have defended the violence. And the Economist‘s original cover plays straight into the Israeli-US narrative: that Palestinians (and specifically Hamas) were somehow to blame for Israel’s slaughter of civilians.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/05/21/the-economists-front-page-betrayed-the-victims-of-gaza-but-the-truth-is-much-stronger/
Heh whats happened to the quality of hasbra trolling? They don't even make a effort anymore.
The sociopaths at the Economist weigh in with their 'considered' opinion.
The Economist’s front page betrayed the victims of Gaza. But the truth is much stronger.
The Economist’s latest front cover shows a provocative image of a young boy firing a slingshot. It leads with the headline: Gaza: There is a better way.
Social media has now responded to this naked bias, saying: ‘Yes, there is a better way’.
“Fixed it!”
On 14 May, Israeli troops killed at least 60 Palestinian protesters. The extent of the violence was so great that, on 18 May, the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) voted to investigate violations of international law in Gaza. It suggested that Israel’s actions were “wholly disproportionate”.
In response to the Economist‘s front cover, Media Lens had the perfect response on Twitter:
There has been widespread condemnation of the violence. Because over 2,400 people were injured as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) opened fire. Children and a baby are among the dead and injured. But Israel and the US have defended the violence. And the Economist‘s original cover plays straight into the Israeli-US narrative: that Palestinians (and specifically Hamas) were somehow to blame for Israel’s slaughter of civilians.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/05/21/the-economists-front-page-betrayed-the-victims-of-gaza-but-the-truth-is-much-stronger/
Salaam
Another opinion piece. More bad news, but at least the mask is coming off.
Trump, Israel and the Gulf States prepare to destroy the Palestinian cause
Veteran Arab journalist Abdel Bari Atwan argues that last week’s celebrations of the transfer of the US embassy to occupied Jerusalem were a crucial first step in implementing the so-called “Deal of the Century” which the Trump administration hopes will result in the final collapse of the Palestinian cause.
By rushing to relocate the embassy, and timing the move to coincide with the anniversary of the Nakba, the US and Israel were launching a “trial balloon” to gauge Arab and international reactions prior to unveiling this “deal.”
Regrettably, the reaction was very muted in most of the occupied Palestinian territories other than the Gaza Strip, where mass demonstrations were held for six consecutive weeks in which more than 100 people were killed and 3,000 people injured by Israeli sniper bullets. The same can be said of the response from most Arab and Islamic capitals.
The “leaking process” aimed at marketing the deal in advance began via the Associated Press news agency, which quoted five anonymous US officials as saying that President Donald Trump plans to unveil his plan – drawn up chiefly by his son-in-law Jared Kushner and “peace” envoy Jason Greenblatt under the direct supervision of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu — in late June after the end of Ramadan.
The official Arab reaction to the embassy move and the Israeli massacre in Gaza was not only muted but complicit, suggesting that the US’s main Arab allies – especially Egypt, Jordan and most of the Gulf states – are aware of the details of the forthcoming American plan. They failed to call for an emergency Arab summit in response, and their attendance at the Islamic summit convened by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was (with the exception of Jordan) notably low-level, with most of the Gulf states (other than Kuwait) represented by their foreign ministers.
The fact that the Arab states which have formal diplomatic relations with Israel (Egypt and Jordan) did not dare recall their ambassadors or expel Israeli diplomats from their capitals in protest — even though such measures were taken by non-Arab countries like Turkey, Bolivia, South Africa, Ireland and Belgium — is significant. It could presage some shocking developments in the months to come.
Meanwhile, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah as-Sisi summoned Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh from Gaza to Cairo – sending a private plane to pick him and his delegation up at al-Arish airport — in an attempt to persuade them, at the request of the US, to put an end to the Return Marches and calm the situation down in the Gaza Strip, and also to discuss proposals for a ten-year truce with Israel. Some Hamas insiders began leaking word that some kind of agreement, which would result in the lifting of the siege on Gaza, could be on the cards.
Carrot and stick
The US and its Arab clients are pursuing a carrot-and-stick approach towards the Palestinians, or rather towards their leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The stick is to cut off financial aid and tighten the siege, and the carrot is the promise of Arab and Western cash for the Occupied Territories as payback for relinquishing Jerusalem and the Right to Return and for not opposing the deal.
Sisi’s unexpected and unprecedented decision to reopen the Rafah border crossing to Gaza for the duration of Ramadan was intended to pave the way for an accord under which the March of Return protests would be halted or scaled down, while popular anger would be assuaged by the prospect of improved living conditions.
That, at least, is the idea, after Gaza’s inhabitants, at Hamas’ urging, spoiled the embassy celebrations and exposed the ugly terrorist face of Israel. But things might not go to plan if the Hamas leadership refuses to take the American carrot being presented to it on an Arab plate. It could go either way: there is a strong current within Hamas that advocates opposition.
The details that have been leaked so far about the substance of Trump’s deal speak of enlarging the Gaza Strip by incorporating 720 square kilometres of Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, perhaps including the towns of al-Arish and Sheikh Zuweida, where a port and airport would be built. In return, Egypt would obtain an equivalent area of occupied Palestinian territory in the Naqab desert.
Meanwhile, the envisaged ultra-modern mega-city of Neom would be built in the Egyptian-Jordanian-Saudi border area, attracting $500 billion of investment, providing ample employment and attracting additional indirect investment into the Egyptian economy. The West Bank, for its part, is offered no more than “economic peace” plus improved self-administration conditions.
The big stick being wielded by the US is the threat to deprive the Palestinian Authority (PA) of financial aid if it declines to go along with this plan. It has already had $200 million frozen from this year’s budget, plus another $65 million withheld from UNRWA’s budget.
The cut-off of all financial support to Jordan from the Gulf states has the same objective: to put pressure on the country, and on its resident Palestinians, to either accept the deal or put up with the consequences. The process of trying to marginalise Jordan and its role began some time ago and is set to intensify.
Media campaign
In the Gulf states, meanwhile, there has been an escalating media campaign aimed at vilifying the Palestinian people in the eyes of the public – including by depicting them as having sold their land to the Israelis and so being undeserving of support. The “electronic army” of Gulf state social media propagandists has been fully enlisted in this controlled and coordinated campaign, as have prominent pro-regime writers, in parallel with the gradual process of normalisation with Israel.
This, too, is part of Gulf regimes’ contribution to easing the way for Trump’s deal. So was the arrest of five Saudi male and female activists who were known for their opposition to normalisation. More such moves can be expected.
To this must be added the targeting of the Resistance Axis region-wide – the attacks on Iranian positions in Syria by Israeli warplanes and missiles, the imposition of sanctions on Hezbollah’s Hassan Nasrallah and nine other party leaders, and the placing of the party’s political and military wings alike on the “terrorist” list. All these measures fall in line with US steps to impose the “deal of the century,” exploiting the current weakness of the Arab and Islamic worlds as a historic opportunity that will not recur.
It will be no surprise if Israel soon announces its acceptance of the Saudi-authored Arab Peace Initiative of 2002 – minus its key provisions, of course, and with the status of occupied Jerusalem having been settled and taken off the table of any future negotiations. We may also see exchanges of visits between Gulf Arab and Israeli officials after Ramadan.
It seems we are set for a summer of normalisation, as the wraps are lifted from this cynical deal.
https://5pillarsuk.com/2018/05/25/t...tes-prepare-to-destroy-the-palestinian-cause/
Another opinion piece. More bad news, but at least the mask is coming off.
Trump, Israel and the Gulf States prepare to destroy the Palestinian cause
Veteran Arab journalist Abdel Bari Atwan argues that last week’s celebrations of the transfer of the US embassy to occupied Jerusalem were a crucial first step in implementing the so-called “Deal of the Century” which the Trump administration hopes will result in the final collapse of the Palestinian cause.
By rushing to relocate the embassy, and timing the move to coincide with the anniversary of the Nakba, the US and Israel were launching a “trial balloon” to gauge Arab and international reactions prior to unveiling this “deal.”
Regrettably, the reaction was very muted in most of the occupied Palestinian territories other than the Gaza Strip, where mass demonstrations were held for six consecutive weeks in which more than 100 people were killed and 3,000 people injured by Israeli sniper bullets. The same can be said of the response from most Arab and Islamic capitals.
The “leaking process” aimed at marketing the deal in advance began via the Associated Press news agency, which quoted five anonymous US officials as saying that President Donald Trump plans to unveil his plan – drawn up chiefly by his son-in-law Jared Kushner and “peace” envoy Jason Greenblatt under the direct supervision of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu — in late June after the end of Ramadan.
The official Arab reaction to the embassy move and the Israeli massacre in Gaza was not only muted but complicit, suggesting that the US’s main Arab allies – especially Egypt, Jordan and most of the Gulf states – are aware of the details of the forthcoming American plan. They failed to call for an emergency Arab summit in response, and their attendance at the Islamic summit convened by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was (with the exception of Jordan) notably low-level, with most of the Gulf states (other than Kuwait) represented by their foreign ministers.
The fact that the Arab states which have formal diplomatic relations with Israel (Egypt and Jordan) did not dare recall their ambassadors or expel Israeli diplomats from their capitals in protest — even though such measures were taken by non-Arab countries like Turkey, Bolivia, South Africa, Ireland and Belgium — is significant. It could presage some shocking developments in the months to come.
Meanwhile, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah as-Sisi summoned Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh from Gaza to Cairo – sending a private plane to pick him and his delegation up at al-Arish airport — in an attempt to persuade them, at the request of the US, to put an end to the Return Marches and calm the situation down in the Gaza Strip, and also to discuss proposals for a ten-year truce with Israel. Some Hamas insiders began leaking word that some kind of agreement, which would result in the lifting of the siege on Gaza, could be on the cards.
Carrot and stick
The US and its Arab clients are pursuing a carrot-and-stick approach towards the Palestinians, or rather towards their leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The stick is to cut off financial aid and tighten the siege, and the carrot is the promise of Arab and Western cash for the Occupied Territories as payback for relinquishing Jerusalem and the Right to Return and for not opposing the deal.
Sisi’s unexpected and unprecedented decision to reopen the Rafah border crossing to Gaza for the duration of Ramadan was intended to pave the way for an accord under which the March of Return protests would be halted or scaled down, while popular anger would be assuaged by the prospect of improved living conditions.
That, at least, is the idea, after Gaza’s inhabitants, at Hamas’ urging, spoiled the embassy celebrations and exposed the ugly terrorist face of Israel. But things might not go to plan if the Hamas leadership refuses to take the American carrot being presented to it on an Arab plate. It could go either way: there is a strong current within Hamas that advocates opposition.
The details that have been leaked so far about the substance of Trump’s deal speak of enlarging the Gaza Strip by incorporating 720 square kilometres of Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, perhaps including the towns of al-Arish and Sheikh Zuweida, where a port and airport would be built. In return, Egypt would obtain an equivalent area of occupied Palestinian territory in the Naqab desert.
Meanwhile, the envisaged ultra-modern mega-city of Neom would be built in the Egyptian-Jordanian-Saudi border area, attracting $500 billion of investment, providing ample employment and attracting additional indirect investment into the Egyptian economy. The West Bank, for its part, is offered no more than “economic peace” plus improved self-administration conditions.
The big stick being wielded by the US is the threat to deprive the Palestinian Authority (PA) of financial aid if it declines to go along with this plan. It has already had $200 million frozen from this year’s budget, plus another $65 million withheld from UNRWA’s budget.
The cut-off of all financial support to Jordan from the Gulf states has the same objective: to put pressure on the country, and on its resident Palestinians, to either accept the deal or put up with the consequences. The process of trying to marginalise Jordan and its role began some time ago and is set to intensify.
Media campaign
In the Gulf states, meanwhile, there has been an escalating media campaign aimed at vilifying the Palestinian people in the eyes of the public – including by depicting them as having sold their land to the Israelis and so being undeserving of support. The “electronic army” of Gulf state social media propagandists has been fully enlisted in this controlled and coordinated campaign, as have prominent pro-regime writers, in parallel with the gradual process of normalisation with Israel.
This, too, is part of Gulf regimes’ contribution to easing the way for Trump’s deal. So was the arrest of five Saudi male and female activists who were known for their opposition to normalisation. More such moves can be expected.
To this must be added the targeting of the Resistance Axis region-wide – the attacks on Iranian positions in Syria by Israeli warplanes and missiles, the imposition of sanctions on Hezbollah’s Hassan Nasrallah and nine other party leaders, and the placing of the party’s political and military wings alike on the “terrorist” list. All these measures fall in line with US steps to impose the “deal of the century,” exploiting the current weakness of the Arab and Islamic worlds as a historic opportunity that will not recur.
It will be no surprise if Israel soon announces its acceptance of the Saudi-authored Arab Peace Initiative of 2002 – minus its key provisions, of course, and with the status of occupied Jerusalem having been settled and taken off the table of any future negotiations. We may also see exchanges of visits between Gulf Arab and Israeli officials after Ramadan.
It seems we are set for a summer of normalisation, as the wraps are lifted from this cynical deal.
https://5pillarsuk.com/2018/05/25/t...tes-prepare-to-destroy-the-palestinian-cause/
Futuwwa
IB Expert
- Messages
- 1,247
- Reaction score
- 113
- Gender
- Male
- Religion
- Islam
Trump's "Deal of the Century" isn't going to be worth the paper it's written on. He may be able to coerce the Palestinian Authority to sign the agreement, but the PA won't have any standing to implement or impose it onto its constituents. If anything, it might lead to its final collapse or slide into irrelevancy. Israel would have to do the imposition, which effectively means full military occupation again, back to square one. Nor would Israel be particularly likely to gain any additional internationally recognized legitimacy for it, if the deal has come about in such a way.
The Deal of the Century will blow up in Trump's face. The Arab regimes he has currently herded together for the purpose are temporary, and so are their interest in going along with it. As long as support for the Palestinian cause runs broad and deep in Arab civil society, the compliance of said Arab regimes with the deal isn't going to last. US influence in the Middle East is going to end up in shreds. Spasiba, says Putin.
The Deal of the Century will blow up in Trump's face. The Arab regimes he has currently herded together for the purpose are temporary, and so are their interest in going along with it. As long as support for the Palestinian cause runs broad and deep in Arab civil society, the compliance of said Arab regimes with the deal isn't going to last. US influence in the Middle East is going to end up in shreds. Spasiba, says Putin.
Salaam
Another update
Israel intercepts Gaza boat after setting sail to break blockade
Vessel carrying Palestinian patients, students and activists was captured by Israeli warships and taken to Ashdod port.
Israeli naval forces have intercepted a Palestinian vessel hours after it sailed off the coast of the besieged Gaza Strip.
The boat, carrying patients, students and people wounded in recent mass protests, was transferred on Tuesday to the Israeli port of Ashdod, according to the Israeli army.
The 17 people on board were attempting to break an Israeli-imposed siege for the first time in more than a decade, and had set off with the intention of reaching Limassol, a coastal city in southern Cyprus.
The intercepted boat had crossed nine nautical miles (16km) before four Israeli warships flanked the vessel.
Under the Oslo Accords signed in 1993, Israel is obligated to permit fishing up to 20 nautical miles, but this has never been implemented.
The widest range Israel has allowed boats in the past 10 years is 12 nautical miles (22km), and at times, the limit was reduced to one nautical mile (1.85km).
Boats are often limited to six nautical miles (11km), and Israeli forces regularly fire warning shots to boats attempting to breach it.
Although hundreds of people boarded more than 30 fishing boats in support of the main vessel, they did not cross the six-nautical-mile permitted boundary, Ramadan al-Hayek, one of the organisers of the voyage, told Al Jazeera
Fifteen boats attempted to cross more than nine nautical miles (16.7km) but met open fire by Israeli forces. These boats sailed in a show of support and were not aiming to reach Cyprus, al Hayek added.
Organisers of the voyage, called Break the Siege committee, also told Al Jazeera the captured boat went as far as 14 nautical miles (26km) when Israeli forces started shooting towards the vessel.
They lost contact with those on board shortly after that.
Passengers had valid passports, with the wounded having made arrangements to receive medical treatment in Turkey prior to leaving Gaza's seaport.
According to al-Hayek, 17 people were detained by Israeli forces in Ashdod.
Committee members said they were working with international agencies, including Human Rights Watch and The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), to ensure the wellbeing of the boat's passengers and to hold Israel responsible for their safety.
Al-Hayek also said the committee would soon announce the launching of a second boat in response to Israel's actions.
The Israeli military blamed Hamas, the party governing the Gaza Strip, for the naval "breach".
In a series of posts on Twitter, it said the Palestinians will be returned to Gaza and warned the move would only "harm" residents of the strip.
It also said Israel would continue to enforce the blockade.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/israel-intercepts-gaza-boat-setting-sail-break-blockade-180529133702126.html
What a surprise
Another update
Israel intercepts Gaza boat after setting sail to break blockade
Vessel carrying Palestinian patients, students and activists was captured by Israeli warships and taken to Ashdod port.
Israeli naval forces have intercepted a Palestinian vessel hours after it sailed off the coast of the besieged Gaza Strip.
The boat, carrying patients, students and people wounded in recent mass protests, was transferred on Tuesday to the Israeli port of Ashdod, according to the Israeli army.
The 17 people on board were attempting to break an Israeli-imposed siege for the first time in more than a decade, and had set off with the intention of reaching Limassol, a coastal city in southern Cyprus.
The intercepted boat had crossed nine nautical miles (16km) before four Israeli warships flanked the vessel.
Under the Oslo Accords signed in 1993, Israel is obligated to permit fishing up to 20 nautical miles, but this has never been implemented.
The widest range Israel has allowed boats in the past 10 years is 12 nautical miles (22km), and at times, the limit was reduced to one nautical mile (1.85km).
Boats are often limited to six nautical miles (11km), and Israeli forces regularly fire warning shots to boats attempting to breach it.
Although hundreds of people boarded more than 30 fishing boats in support of the main vessel, they did not cross the six-nautical-mile permitted boundary, Ramadan al-Hayek, one of the organisers of the voyage, told Al Jazeera
Fifteen boats attempted to cross more than nine nautical miles (16.7km) but met open fire by Israeli forces. These boats sailed in a show of support and were not aiming to reach Cyprus, al Hayek added.
Organisers of the voyage, called Break the Siege committee, also told Al Jazeera the captured boat went as far as 14 nautical miles (26km) when Israeli forces started shooting towards the vessel.
They lost contact with those on board shortly after that.
Passengers had valid passports, with the wounded having made arrangements to receive medical treatment in Turkey prior to leaving Gaza's seaport.
According to al-Hayek, 17 people were detained by Israeli forces in Ashdod.
Committee members said they were working with international agencies, including Human Rights Watch and The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), to ensure the wellbeing of the boat's passengers and to hold Israel responsible for their safety.
Al-Hayek also said the committee would soon announce the launching of a second boat in response to Israel's actions.
The Israeli military blamed Hamas, the party governing the Gaza Strip, for the naval "breach".
In a series of posts on Twitter, it said the Palestinians will be returned to Gaza and warned the move would only "harm" residents of the strip.
It also said Israel would continue to enforce the blockade.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/israel-intercepts-gaza-boat-setting-sail-break-blockade-180529133702126.html
What a surprise
Thats the capitalist democrasy and why it will never bring peace to World.
Salaam
Bro Mohammed managed to get an interview with Norman! Nice one.
Blurb
Did you know that Israel has been compelling black Jews to receive long-term birth control shots? This is a big controversy in Israel. In this video, I will discuss racism and apartheid in Israel.
Bro Mohammed managed to get an interview with Norman! Nice one.
Blurb
Did you know that Israel has been compelling black Jews to receive long-term birth control shots? This is a big controversy in Israel. In this video, I will discuss racism and apartheid in Israel.
Salaam
Yes they have a record, UK for several centuries now by money men, lawyers and bankers, its evolved over the years to include new players (globalists) but its essentially the same. Its elite want to maintain its grip in influencing the world for its benifet and undermine those who will interfere (regardless of the rights or wrongs of it). Good read if you want an introduction on British covert operations.
Blurb
British leaders use spies and Special Forces to interfere in the affairs of others discreetly and deniably. Since 1945, MI6 has spread misinformation designed to divide and discredit targets from the Middle East to Eastern Europe and Northern Ireland. It has instigated whispering campaigns and planted false evidence on officials working behind the Iron Curtain, tried to ferment revolution in Albania, blown up ships to prevent the passage of refugees to Israel, and secretly funnelled aid to insurgents in Afghanistan and dissidents in Poland. MI6 has launched cultural and economic warfare against Iceland and Czechoslovakia. It has tried to instigate coups in Congo, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and elsewhere. Through bribery and blackmail, Britain has rigged elections as colonies moved to independence. Britain has fought secret wars in Yemen, Indonesia, and Oman ― and discreetly used Special Forces to eliminate enemies from colonial Malaya to Libya during the Arab Spring.
This is covert action: a vital, though controversial, tool of statecraft and perhaps the most sensitive of all government activity. If used wisely, it can play an important role in pursuing national interests in a dangerous world. If used poorly, it can cause political scandal ― or worse.
In Disrupt and Deny, Rory Cormac tells the remarkable true story of Britain's secret scheming against its enemies, as well as its friends; of intrigue and manoeuvring within the darkest corridors of Whitehall, where officials fought to maintain control of this most sensitive and seductive work; and, above all, of Britain's attempt to use smoke and mirrors to mask decline. He reveals hitherto secret operations, the slush funds that paid for them, and the battles in Whitehall that shaped them.
Yes they have a record, UK for several centuries now by money men, lawyers and bankers, its evolved over the years to include new players (globalists) but its essentially the same. Its elite want to maintain its grip in influencing the world for its benifet and undermine those who will interfere (regardless of the rights or wrongs of it). Good read if you want an introduction on British covert operations.
Blurb
British leaders use spies and Special Forces to interfere in the affairs of others discreetly and deniably. Since 1945, MI6 has spread misinformation designed to divide and discredit targets from the Middle East to Eastern Europe and Northern Ireland. It has instigated whispering campaigns and planted false evidence on officials working behind the Iron Curtain, tried to ferment revolution in Albania, blown up ships to prevent the passage of refugees to Israel, and secretly funnelled aid to insurgents in Afghanistan and dissidents in Poland. MI6 has launched cultural and economic warfare against Iceland and Czechoslovakia. It has tried to instigate coups in Congo, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and elsewhere. Through bribery and blackmail, Britain has rigged elections as colonies moved to independence. Britain has fought secret wars in Yemen, Indonesia, and Oman ― and discreetly used Special Forces to eliminate enemies from colonial Malaya to Libya during the Arab Spring.
This is covert action: a vital, though controversial, tool of statecraft and perhaps the most sensitive of all government activity. If used wisely, it can play an important role in pursuing national interests in a dangerous world. If used poorly, it can cause political scandal ― or worse.
In Disrupt and Deny, Rory Cormac tells the remarkable true story of Britain's secret scheming against its enemies, as well as its friends; of intrigue and manoeuvring within the darkest corridors of Whitehall, where officials fought to maintain control of this most sensitive and seductive work; and, above all, of Britain's attempt to use smoke and mirrors to mask decline. He reveals hitherto secret operations, the slush funds that paid for them, and the battles in Whitehall that shaped them.
Last edited:
Salaam
Should of added this earlier, in relation to arms deals this is how the British establishment operates.
Blurb
A clip from The Death of A Nation - The East Timor Conspiracy. The journalist & documentarian John Pilger in an interview with Alan Clark the Ex British Minister of Defence over the sale of British arms to Indonesia for the express purpose of conquering the neighboring island nation of East Timor.
Have to say this I respect his honesty.
Should of added this earlier, in relation to arms deals this is how the British establishment operates.
Blurb
A clip from The Death of A Nation - The East Timor Conspiracy. The journalist & documentarian John Pilger in an interview with Alan Clark the Ex British Minister of Defence over the sale of British arms to Indonesia for the express purpose of conquering the neighboring island nation of East Timor.
Have to say this I respect his honesty.
Last edited:
Salaam
Another update
Just to add
Another update
Just to add
Last edited:
Salaam
More comment
On Accountability in the Light of Israeli Brutality
For the last few weeks Israel has displayed a new level of institutional criminality. Fearing that Palestinian protestors attempting to return to their land would cross the Gaza border fence, Israel deployed hundreds of snipers, scores of tanks and drones across the Gaza Strip border. The government ordered forces to shoot at anyone who managed to reach the border. (although it is clear that Israeli forces also shot well inside the border.) This was a premeditated massacre: a cold blooded governmental decision to shoot at protestors. The outcome of this disastrous decision is known and it reveals the murderous nature of the Jewish State.
The world reacted in disgust. The UN voted two days ago to send an international war crimes probe to Gaza. Israel has already refused to cooperate with this fact finding mission.
These events in Gaza proved that the nature of Israeli barbarism has no precedent in human history. Israel is not a tyrannical dictatorship deploying death squads against protestors, nor were the killings the result of an outburst by a lone commander on the battlefield. Instead, Israel’s actions resulted from a non-ethical continuum that stretched from the Israeli PM to the last IDF sniper on the Gaza dunes. The Jewish state is a democracy. Its army is a popular army. The events in Gaza were the direct outcome of a policy that remained unchanged for 6 weeks despite the high level of civilian casualties on the Palestinian side. We are talking about an murderous system that is institutionalised at all levels of the state that repeatedly defines itself as ‘The Jewish State.’
This has exposed a complete absence of moral awareness. Israel has acted with impunity to kill on a mass scale as if ethics had never made it to Israel. However John Adlington from Treflach seems to be really upset that I insist that Jews must look into themselves so that they can understand what is it about their culture and politics that evoke so much fury. John Adlington from Treflach wrote to his local paper (Oswestry Advertiser) complaining about a local music venue inviting me to perform and run Jazz workshops. In Adlington’s eyes I am ‘anti-Semitic’ for insisting that Jews, like everyone else, must reflect on their actions to understand once and for all why their history has been a chain of total disasters and how they bring misfortune on themselves.
I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html
I insist that it is well past the time for the Jewish State and Jewish institutions to figure out why the entire world has been disgusted by the actions of the IDF in Gaza. It is time for the Jewish State and Jewish organisations to grasp that Israeli criminality paints Jews in a disastrous light. It is time for Israelis and Jews alike to accept that as long as Israel defines itself as the ‘Jewish State,’ the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians doesn’t reflect well on Jews. The on going Gaza siege doesn’t present the Jewish State as a humanist adventure either. I would advise Mr. Adlington that in this imaginary ‘racist contest’ he is well ahead of me. Expecting Jews not to self reflect and to understand their role in their own misfortune is actually a surrender to Jewish racial exceptionalism.
If the Jewish State and its many satellite lobbies and advocacy bodies around the world were taking responsibility for their actions, the Gaza massacre wouldn’t have happened because the Palestinians would, by now, be living back on their land and peace would have been prevailed. However, if promoting Jewish accountability and peace is ‘anti-Semitism’ one may wonder, what is a real bigot?
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality
More comment
On Accountability in the Light of Israeli Brutality
For the last few weeks Israel has displayed a new level of institutional criminality. Fearing that Palestinian protestors attempting to return to their land would cross the Gaza border fence, Israel deployed hundreds of snipers, scores of tanks and drones across the Gaza Strip border. The government ordered forces to shoot at anyone who managed to reach the border. (although it is clear that Israeli forces also shot well inside the border.) This was a premeditated massacre: a cold blooded governmental decision to shoot at protestors. The outcome of this disastrous decision is known and it reveals the murderous nature of the Jewish State.
The world reacted in disgust. The UN voted two days ago to send an international war crimes probe to Gaza. Israel has already refused to cooperate with this fact finding mission.
These events in Gaza proved that the nature of Israeli barbarism has no precedent in human history. Israel is not a tyrannical dictatorship deploying death squads against protestors, nor were the killings the result of an outburst by a lone commander on the battlefield. Instead, Israel’s actions resulted from a non-ethical continuum that stretched from the Israeli PM to the last IDF sniper on the Gaza dunes. The Jewish state is a democracy. Its army is a popular army. The events in Gaza were the direct outcome of a policy that remained unchanged for 6 weeks despite the high level of civilian casualties on the Palestinian side. We are talking about an murderous system that is institutionalised at all levels of the state that repeatedly defines itself as ‘The Jewish State.’
This has exposed a complete absence of moral awareness. Israel has acted with impunity to kill on a mass scale as if ethics had never made it to Israel. However John Adlington from Treflach seems to be really upset that I insist that Jews must look into themselves so that they can understand what is it about their culture and politics that evoke so much fury. John Adlington from Treflach wrote to his local paper (Oswestry Advertiser) complaining about a local music venue inviting me to perform and run Jazz workshops. In Adlington’s eyes I am ‘anti-Semitic’ for insisting that Jews, like everyone else, must reflect on their actions to understand once and for all why their history has been a chain of total disasters and how they bring misfortune on themselves.
I remain firmly behind those words that upset Mr. Adlington “…maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/holocaust-day-the-time-is-ripe-for-a-jewish-apology.html
I insist that it is well past the time for the Jewish State and Jewish institutions to figure out why the entire world has been disgusted by the actions of the IDF in Gaza. It is time for the Jewish State and Jewish organisations to grasp that Israeli criminality paints Jews in a disastrous light. It is time for Israelis and Jews alike to accept that as long as Israel defines itself as the ‘Jewish State,’ the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians doesn’t reflect well on Jews. The on going Gaza siege doesn’t present the Jewish State as a humanist adventure either. I would advise Mr. Adlington that in this imaginary ‘racist contest’ he is well ahead of me. Expecting Jews not to self reflect and to understand their role in their own misfortune is actually a surrender to Jewish racial exceptionalism.
If the Jewish State and its many satellite lobbies and advocacy bodies around the world were taking responsibility for their actions, the Gaza massacre wouldn’t have happened because the Palestinians would, by now, be living back on their land and peace would have been prevailed. However, if promoting Jewish accountability and peace is ‘anti-Semitism’ one may wonder, what is a real bigot?
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/5/19/onaccountability-in-the-light-of-israeli-brutality
Salaam
Another update
'Subterranean normalisation': Netanyahu hails 'friendly relations' with Arab states
Israeli prime minister says better relations would 'eventually also impact the one percent of the Arab world who are Palestinians'
Israel is pursuing a policy of “subterranean normalisation” with Arab countries that will eventually bring a peace deal with the Palestinians, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday in an interview with BBC television. Speaking to the Newsnight programme during a visit to London, Netanyahu said he believed that cooperating more closely with Arab states was a “path to peace” and suggested that relations with the Arab world had never been better.
“I would never believe that in my lifetime we would have the kind of friendly relations and cooperation between Israel and the Arab states,” said Netanyahu.
“And here is the most promising thing: that is beginning to affect public opinion in some of the Arab countries. They are beginning to think of Israel differently and this is what Israelis long for.
“I am deliberately pursuing this policy of cooperation with the Arab world not only because it is good on its own merits but also because I believe it is a path to peace.”
Middle East Eye has reported exclusively on deepening relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which have included Riyadh’s support for US President Donald Trump’s so-called “deal of the century” for Palestine. Palestinian officials told MEE in March that the US and its Arab allies planned to push through the deal, even without Palestinian support for the plan. Details of the proposed deal have yet to be officially revealed, but it is reported to press the Palestinians to give up East Jerusalem as their capital, and to rescind their right of return to lands taken by Israel in 1948 and 1967.
Last November, MEE reported that the Jordanian monarchy was concerned that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman was rushing to normalise relations with Israel at the expense of both the Jordanians and Palestinians.
“We are having this subterranean normalisation and I think that as we normalise relations with Arab nations – not necessarily to full-fledged peace treaties that we have with Egypt and Jordan, but it will take time to get with the others – that it will eventually also impact the one percent of the Arab world who are Palestinians,” said Netanyahu.
“I say normalise relations with the 99 percent and you’ll eventually get peace with the one percent, although I think we should do it in tandem.”
Netanyahu said Israel and Arab states were drawing closer together because of the perceived shared threat posed by Iran, but also because Arab nations wanted to benefit from Israeli technology and innovation.
“There is a massive change that is taking place today in the relations between Arabs and Israelis,” he said.
“Most of the Arab governments now are coming close to Israel because of the Iranian threat which they understand as we do as something that would threaten their survival. Second, once that happened they began to see the benefits of civilian technology.
“They want a better life for their people and they know that Israel is this fountainhead of innovation that can change and better their lives.”
Currently, Egypt and Jordan are the only Arab states that formally recognise Israel.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-pursuing-subterranean-normalisation-arab-states-netanyahu-1207295773
Another update
'Subterranean normalisation': Netanyahu hails 'friendly relations' with Arab states
Israeli prime minister says better relations would 'eventually also impact the one percent of the Arab world who are Palestinians'
Israel is pursuing a policy of “subterranean normalisation” with Arab countries that will eventually bring a peace deal with the Palestinians, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday in an interview with BBC television. Speaking to the Newsnight programme during a visit to London, Netanyahu said he believed that cooperating more closely with Arab states was a “path to peace” and suggested that relations with the Arab world had never been better.
“I would never believe that in my lifetime we would have the kind of friendly relations and cooperation between Israel and the Arab states,” said Netanyahu.
“And here is the most promising thing: that is beginning to affect public opinion in some of the Arab countries. They are beginning to think of Israel differently and this is what Israelis long for.
“I am deliberately pursuing this policy of cooperation with the Arab world not only because it is good on its own merits but also because I believe it is a path to peace.”
Middle East Eye has reported exclusively on deepening relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which have included Riyadh’s support for US President Donald Trump’s so-called “deal of the century” for Palestine. Palestinian officials told MEE in March that the US and its Arab allies planned to push through the deal, even without Palestinian support for the plan. Details of the proposed deal have yet to be officially revealed, but it is reported to press the Palestinians to give up East Jerusalem as their capital, and to rescind their right of return to lands taken by Israel in 1948 and 1967.
Last November, MEE reported that the Jordanian monarchy was concerned that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman was rushing to normalise relations with Israel at the expense of both the Jordanians and Palestinians.
“We are having this subterranean normalisation and I think that as we normalise relations with Arab nations – not necessarily to full-fledged peace treaties that we have with Egypt and Jordan, but it will take time to get with the others – that it will eventually also impact the one percent of the Arab world who are Palestinians,” said Netanyahu.
“I say normalise relations with the 99 percent and you’ll eventually get peace with the one percent, although I think we should do it in tandem.”
Netanyahu said Israel and Arab states were drawing closer together because of the perceived shared threat posed by Iran, but also because Arab nations wanted to benefit from Israeli technology and innovation.
“There is a massive change that is taking place today in the relations between Arabs and Israelis,” he said.
“Most of the Arab governments now are coming close to Israel because of the Iranian threat which they understand as we do as something that would threaten their survival. Second, once that happened they began to see the benefits of civilian technology.
“They want a better life for their people and they know that Israel is this fountainhead of innovation that can change and better their lives.”
Currently, Egypt and Jordan are the only Arab states that formally recognise Israel.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-pursuing-subterranean-normalisation-arab-states-netanyahu-1207295773
Salaam
Another update
Blurb
Today, Israel shot hundreds of Palestinian civilians, killing 4 - including a child. The world is speaking out against this unjustified aggression that is tantamount to a campaign of ethnic cleansing.
Some comments
6 Gorillion D Chess
The Palestinians need a different approach... I side with them 100% but these tactics are just getting them killed and giving Israel the pretext to further destroy them. I wish I had an answer but I'm at a loss.
Mohammed Haj Daoud
6 Gorillion D Chess what do you suggest they do? They’re not allowed to be armed. And if they go to the UN the US vetoes everything and if they boycott the US will slap whoever does that with sanctions. They’ve been getting slaughtered for 70 years, so you tell me what are they supposed to do?
Blackstone Intelligence Network
The Palestinians have been cast aside by most of their Arab neighbors. Why? Because some of these countries care more about foreign welfare money from the United States than they care about their own blood relatives. They have sold the Palestinians in exchange for money. Sure, they talk a good talk. But they don't follow through in substantive ways. I agree that the tactics of the Palestinians (especially of Hamas) are not resulting in positive changes in their situations. Like you, I've looked at this and I just don't see a clear answer.
What we need is for our Congress to cut off foreign aid to Israel (and to the Arabs), get out of their business, stop the CIA from controlling the Middle East - and let the Arab states get back to supporting one another against Israel. Trump talks big about North Korea, but he doesn't take military action. That's because the Chinese will intervene. The Palestinians don't have anyone backing them up. If Israel had to square off against today's nations of Iran, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan and the Gulf States, then Israel would not be so awful in its treatment of the Palestinians.
a
Blackstone Intelligence Network Jake if you observe even more deeply, gaza civillians specifically asked hamas to not interfere, what did hamas do? they just said a political statement that they support the protest, they did not send their joke of a millitia they did not send their rockets for 3 months now since march why do you think Gazans requested that...
and how do you think it was effective i say as a palestinian this is THE MOST SUPPORT we EVER had from the populations of the world... that a city in spain made an action. because when they chose to go out on these fields they demonstrated, the lies of propaganda across the world , each palestinian is killed is a martyr, a martyr of truth also i would like to comment ,
it boils my blood to say kuwaiti and other gulf and egyptian media spread israeli propaganda about the palestinian issue WHAT A SURPRISE the nurtures of al qaeda and destruction of syria are also for the annhilation of palestinians Syrians have initiated a movment( atleast among themselves) to remove the word Arab from their coutry name, and we support it, palestinians never put it in their names i rather we go by our ancestors names canaanites and Assyrians ....
Another update
Blurb
Today, Israel shot hundreds of Palestinian civilians, killing 4 - including a child. The world is speaking out against this unjustified aggression that is tantamount to a campaign of ethnic cleansing.
Some comments
6 Gorillion D Chess
The Palestinians need a different approach... I side with them 100% but these tactics are just getting them killed and giving Israel the pretext to further destroy them. I wish I had an answer but I'm at a loss.
Mohammed Haj Daoud
6 Gorillion D Chess what do you suggest they do? They’re not allowed to be armed. And if they go to the UN the US vetoes everything and if they boycott the US will slap whoever does that with sanctions. They’ve been getting slaughtered for 70 years, so you tell me what are they supposed to do?
Blackstone Intelligence Network
The Palestinians have been cast aside by most of their Arab neighbors. Why? Because some of these countries care more about foreign welfare money from the United States than they care about their own blood relatives. They have sold the Palestinians in exchange for money. Sure, they talk a good talk. But they don't follow through in substantive ways. I agree that the tactics of the Palestinians (especially of Hamas) are not resulting in positive changes in their situations. Like you, I've looked at this and I just don't see a clear answer.
What we need is for our Congress to cut off foreign aid to Israel (and to the Arabs), get out of their business, stop the CIA from controlling the Middle East - and let the Arab states get back to supporting one another against Israel. Trump talks big about North Korea, but he doesn't take military action. That's because the Chinese will intervene. The Palestinians don't have anyone backing them up. If Israel had to square off against today's nations of Iran, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan and the Gulf States, then Israel would not be so awful in its treatment of the Palestinians.
a
Blackstone Intelligence Network Jake if you observe even more deeply, gaza civillians specifically asked hamas to not interfere, what did hamas do? they just said a political statement that they support the protest, they did not send their joke of a millitia they did not send their rockets for 3 months now since march why do you think Gazans requested that...
and how do you think it was effective i say as a palestinian this is THE MOST SUPPORT we EVER had from the populations of the world... that a city in spain made an action. because when they chose to go out on these fields they demonstrated, the lies of propaganda across the world , each palestinian is killed is a martyr, a martyr of truth also i would like to comment ,
it boils my blood to say kuwaiti and other gulf and egyptian media spread israeli propaganda about the palestinian issue WHAT A SURPRISE the nurtures of al qaeda and destruction of syria are also for the annhilation of palestinians Syrians have initiated a movment( atleast among themselves) to remove the word Arab from their coutry name, and we support it, palestinians never put it in their names i rather we go by our ancestors names canaanites and Assyrians ....
Last edited: