Salaam
Yes - the situation is dire.
Blurb
On Wednesday, 11 January Jadaliyya Co-Editor Mouin Rabbani spoke with Gideon Levy discussed about Israel’s new government. This episode of Connections focuses on the Netanyahu government’s program, and examine its various policies in the context of those of its predecessors.
Connections offers timely and informative interviews on current events and broader policy questions, as well as themes relevant to knowledge production. It combines journalism, analysis, and scholarship.
Guest:
Gideon Levy is an award-winning Israeli author and journalist. He has reported for Ha’aretz newspaper since 1982, where he writes the weekly column “The Twilight Zone” about Israeli policies towards the Palestinians.
Host:
Mouin Rabbani has published and commented widely on Palestinian affairs, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the contemporary Middle East. He was previously Senior Analyst Middle East and Special Advisor on Israel-Palestine with the International Crisis Group, and head of political affairs with the Office of the United Nations Special Envoy for Syria. He is Co-Editor of Jadaliyya Ezine.
The problem with Shahid Bolsen's analysis of Muslim countries(specifically Arab ones) normalizing ties with Israel
My response is focusing on two videos by Shahid Bolsen
Video 1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5v6q8qIRThY
Video 2( 12:06- 13:20): https://youtube.com/watch?v=C6MalV5emcE
The 1st problem with Shahid's analysis(more so optimism) about Arab states normalizing ties with Israel is his thinking that this will lead to calls/lobbying for a one-state solution with equal rights from said countries.
Firstly many of these states aren't interested nor have the fortitude to campaign nor demand such a thing from Israel, and the Israeli leadership know this perfectly well. One just has to look at the recent normalization deals Israel made with the UAE, Morocco, Sudan, etc.
Far from getting Israel to back down on things like settlement building, persecution of Palestinians on both sides of the green line, these normalization deals have only emboldened Israel in continuing to carry out business as usual.
This is frankly were the crux of the problem lies these normalization deals could care less about the Palestinian plight and were mainly interested in things like getting better access to Washington(be it aid money, weapons, etc.), Israeli tech and investment, etc.
Why do you think the likes of Netanyahu and co. are pushing full steam ahead with normalization because they know they will gain benefits from said deals while hardly having to give up anything substantial.
Coming to another major problem in Shahid Bolsen's analysis is how he places way too much power in the potential of interdependency between the Arab states and Israel. Firstly Israel isn't too naïve to allow such a high level of interdependency that would.......(cont.)
make them vulnerable to economic and political pressures from Arab states to take hold. At this stage Israel is energy sufficient and is now an exporter of energy such as natural gas. Even in its relationship with Washington over the years Israel has taken steps....(cont)
to wean itself off of being totally reliant on Washington in areas such as military aid(it has a thriving sophisticated arms industry), people need to realize that if push came to shove Israel could still survive without Washington this isn't 1973.
Lastly, its crystal clear that Israel is in the driver's seat when it comes to dictating the reality of said normalization ties, such as controlling the levers of what U.S weapons get sold to Arab countries that have normalized ties as just one example.
In short the normalization process has frankly been a net negative as far as it relates to Palestinians going all the way back to Egypt when they singed a deal, and truth be told in the long run both Egypt and Jordan have drastically declined since signing such deals with Israel.
A respectful criticism of brother Shahid Bolsen's argument FOR Gulf countries normalisation with Israel [Thread]
I took the time to watch Br Bolsen's video for normalisation of ties with Israel. With due respect to my brother, I feel his argument is naive and Islamically flawed
He argues that norm. with Israel by the Gulf countries is a good strategy when combined with Palestinians giving up their two state solution and becoming one state (thereby creating a 50/50 Jews/Arabs state) would 'end Zionism' and remove Israel's strategic interest to the US.
This is naive. Israel's two major neighbours, and its most potent threats, Egypt and Jordan, have long normalised relations with Israel - creating no easing in Israel's domestic policies towards palestinians -in fact, it has only emboldened them to harm palestinians with impunity
Bolsen argues US is only interested in Israel because neighbouring countries oppose Israel. Israel isn't interesting to US because it has enemies! That doesn't make sense. US is interested because Israel can monitor and interfere in the Strategic area of M.E. That won't change
Zionist father Theodore Hertzel even argued that Israel could be marketed to the West as an outpost of (Western) civilisation in the Middle East - and thereby receive support for it from the West. The US described Israel as cheaper than needing 10 US aircraft carriers there
Normalising ties with Israel won't improve the plight of the palestinians. How does opening trade & flight routes for a oppressive nation going to make them stop oppressing? India doesn't go gentle on its Muslims despite even receiving medals and awards from 'Muslim governments'
As for Palestinians dropping the idea of a Palestinian state & asking to be Israeli citizens, this is the one idea I already discussed last year. It could be a good tactical move because it will turn the Palestinian struggle into a civil rights struggle and this hurts Israel's PR
Muslim countries could all then boycott Israel as an apartheid state, until it grants all Palestinians citizenship and right of return. Like South Africa, Israel's international standing, and possible alliances, would be come untenable in the public view. But...
...never underestimate Zionist's capability to accelerate its racial policies and ethnic cleansing if they feel time is running out. Also don't underestimate the RISING Western right-wing's capability to support outright apartheid in Israel. West ignores India's policy to Muslims
Normalising the Israel only strengthens Israel's economy, more trade = more money for it (not less). And more money = more military.
Israeli businessmen can buy land in Muslim countries' territories now - BUT Israel has laws that prevent outsiders doing the same on 'their' land!
Shahed Bolsen's argument also inadvertently normalises nation-states, like the Gulf countries, which as a concept goes against Islamic concept of a unitary state of all Muslims. Zionism is built on the exact same nation-statehood concept.
Going back to the options Zionists could use to justify apartheid, they could engineer (or simply invent) terror groups and claim 'terror incidents' prevent all Palestinians from being equal Israeli citizens. They could support anti-Israeli two-state solution Palestinian parties
Israel is no stranger to meddling in internal Palestinian politics. They cud make the Palestinians resist one state solution completely, until West bank is fully cut up and squeezes most of Palestinians out. Israel also hopes it can delay until Jewish demographics ratios improve
and lastly, Bolsen's argument that 'the ends justifies the means' is somehow Islamic because of a hadith that Allah (SWT) uses bad ppl to accomplish good things does not justify haram actions. Allah (SWT) can do with his servants as He wishes. His servants can't do as they wish
Furthermore, the hadith does justify bad actions, only that Allah (SWT) can use munafiqs to do good deeds (even if they only did so because of selfish reasons).
So his argument is flawed.
Dr Kwame Nkrumah
@DrNkrumahKwame
Hamas has released a press statement in English.
I have added subtitles below for accessibility.
We need balanced reporting on the conflict in Israel/Palestine/Gaza.
Jonathan Cook
@Jonathan_K_Cook
Former British ambassador Craig Murray:
In both the UK and the US there can be no more stark illustration of the lack of any kind of meaningful democracy, than the fact that there is no major political party that opposes the genocide [in Gaza] – despite massive public opposition.
The bought and paid for media and political class in the west are extremely nervous, throughout the western world. Now they have come to the final genocide for which zionism has always aimed, they face a good deal of popular resistance...
We are witnessing almost all western governments deliberately facilitating massacre, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We are witnessing almost all western governments turning on their own people to crush dissent at that complicity in genocide.
This feels not so much like the week that western democracy died, as the week it was impossible any longer to deny that western democracy died some time ago.
From: https://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/10/fascism-in-the-west-to-enable-genocide-in-palestine/
Waqas Tufail
@_WaqasTufail
Nothing will be the same after this. The levels of deceit, callousness and inhumanity demonstrated by Western politicians, governments and media are unforgivable.
Sahar Glumcore
@theprimalplot
I'm feeling the same. There is no going back. What we are witnessing will go down in history as the moment when post-WWII western morality and ethics - the 'civilised nations' - lost all pretence, exposing itself for its naked racism and support for mass murder.
Tauqir Tox Sharif
@toxaidworker
I wasn't really a @mohammed_hijab fan before this @piersmorgan show but he has done what nobody else has. Articulate, well versed, persistent and had piers back-pedaling throughout. Well done
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