Israel passes law requiring Palestinians to pay for their own home demolitions

[ProudMuslimSis]

^^^ It was most likely a joke or a compliment referring to one requiring more than one source especially in the Internet age where news can be manipulated.

And, to support your Iran attack news, please see the following that is based on the predictions of one person but still scary! Israel has to be stopped for unjust actions against the Palestinians and their global attitude that could cause WWIII.

CIA veteran: Israel to attack Iran in fall
The Israeli security establishment is increasingly worried by Netanyahu's bellicose stance towards Iran.

The Israeli air force would attack "Natanz and other nuclear facilities to degrade their capabilities. The Iranians will strike back where they can: Basra, Baghdad", he said, and even Afghanistan. Then the United States would jump into the fight with attacks on Iranian targets. "Our special forces are already looking at Iranian targets in Iraq and across the border [in Iran] which we would strike. What we're facing here is an escalation, rather than a planned out-and-out war. It's a nightmare scenario. We don't have enough troops in the Middle East to fight a war like that." Baer added, "I think we are looking into the abyss".​

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[GuestFellow]

This really would be comical if it wasn't so tragic. I have also heard people claiming that Israel is gearing up to attack Iran. It is about time the west stops supporting Israel and gets out of this region of the world. I am proud of Canada for not supporting the US in Iraq but I am ashamed of Canada for having had forces in Afghanistan (though I'm glad they are being pulled out).

Hi,

I highly doubt Israel will attack Iran. America will be furious.

 

[sister herb]

This isn´t anything new for Palestinians but seems just now zionists have decided to get them "right" to harass Palestinians. Already for years zionists have later sended bill after demolition or ordered Palestinians to destroy they homes by themselves - if not, then court have later sended bill.

Somebody could ask why then so many Palestinians have build they homes "without permit". Very simple; if homes are build before than zionists created they "state" and occupied lands from Palestinians they haven´t had "permit" from occupiers of course. As I remember, some years ago zionists destroyed building what was build hundreds years ago - so of course without "legal permit". Other thing; if Palestinians try to get permit from zionists, they have to wait it years or they never get it. Why´s that? Because they are Palestinians.

 

[Ramadhan]

This is uncalled for straw man and slander, and by a moderator no less. Trumble has not posted in this thread.

Oh but he did so in a couple of threads in the past that discussed the atrocities of Israel, the most recent on was the one about Subaru Israel advertising featuring palestinian kids run over by Israeli driving a Subaru.
He accused the palestinians or presstv of concocting the story just because none of mainstream media reported it.
Well, now you have the proof that not every incident in Israel is reported by the mainstream western media, especially if it gives Israel bad name/image.

 

[Trumble]

Just in case the usual suspects of this forum (yes, I am looking at you...Trumble) open their mouth and scream "It's all fake news concoted by the arabs!"

Erm... the only story (two in one I suppose) I 'opened my mouth' to say that about was the kid-being-hit-by-car incident - which was clearly staged even if the final result was unintended, and the so-called car 'advertisement' that followed it. I'm sure that you recall that you were the only one even pretending to think the 'advertisement' was genuine by the time we got to the end of the thread. And your miserable failure to even attempt to explain why a few kids in some anonymous street in Palestine were mysteriously instantly surrounded by half-a-dozen people who just happened to have pro camera and video gear with them. And, indeed, your miserable failure to even attempt to explain how, if the driver was intending to 'run the kid down', he somehow managed to magically stop the car a couple of yards from where the impact occured.

It so happens I am just as appalled about the topic of this thread as you are. That does not mean, though, I will start sharing your habit of believing nothing said by one one side in the conflict while believing anything, however nonsensical and blatantly false it happens to be, pumped out by the propagandists of the other.

 

[Ramadhan]

Erm... the only story (two in one I suppose) I 'opened my mouth' to say that about was the kid-being-hit-by-car incident - which was clearly staged even if the final result was unintended, and the so-called car 'advertisement' that followed it. I'm sure that you recall that you were the only one even pretending to think the 'advertisement' was genuine by the time we got to the end of the thread. And your miserable failure to even attempt to explain why a few kids in some anonymous street in Palestine were mysteriously instantly surrounded by half-a-dozen people who just happened to have pro camera and video gear with them. And, indeed, your miserable failure to even attempt to explain how, if the driver was intending to 'run the kid down', he somehow managed to magically stop the car a couple of yards from where the impact occured.

There were news reports of the advertisement, but you never believed them because none of those news reports came from western sources. You even accused PressTV as producing the news as propaganda.

It so happens I am just as appalled about the topic of this thread as you are

It's nice that you are "appalled about the topic of this thread". At least it's a step in the right direction. Maybe one day you will get to the point where you are actually appalled at the Israelis treatment of the palestinians.

That does not mean, though, I will start sharing your habit of believing nothing said by one one side in the conflict while believing anything, however nonsensical and blatantly false it happens to be, pumped out by the propagandists of the other.

Is it similar to how you believe that the hijacked planes of 9/11 destroyed the Tower 7, because the US government told you so, even though it is nonsensical and blatantly false pumped by the propagandists, and even when there are other more logical and rational explanation ?

 

[Trumble]

There were news reports of the advertisement, but you never believed them because none of those news reports came from western sources. You even accused PressTV as producing the news as propaganda.

No, I never believed them because the story was obviously complete rubbish. I have already acknowledged I was wrong about Press TV, having missed the reference to the Chinese source. I'm sure everyone has noted that you still haven't made the slightest attempt to answer the points I've made and, of course, we still await any evidence that this so called advertisement has ever been anything other than an anonymous photoshop job floating around the net.

It's nice that you are "appalled about the topic of this thread". At least it's a step in the right direction. Maybe one day you will get to the point where you are actually appalled at the Israelis treatment of the palestinians.

Maybe one day you might learn to set aside your own arrogance and bias and make judgements based on what people actually say.

Is it similar to how you believe that the hijacked planes of 9/11 destroyed the Tower 7, because the US government told you so, even though it is nonsensical and blatantly false pumped by the propagandists, and even when there are other more logical and rational explanation ?

No it isn't remotely similar, the only 'logical' and 'rational' explanation to people who actually know what those words mean being the obvious one. Now even the conspiracy nuts have given up it really is quite pathetic people such as yourself remain in such sad denial over Islamicist responsibility for that appalling incident, but I think we are straying somewhat from the thread topic now, don't you think?

 

[Ramadhan]

No, I never believed them because the story was obviously complete rubbish. I have already acknowledged I was wrong about Press TV, having missed the reference to the Chinese source. I'm sure everyone has noted that you still haven't made the slightest attempt to answer the points I've made and, of course, we still await any evidence that this so called advertisement has ever been anything other than an anonymous photoshop job floating around the net.

I have given you the interview sources from the palestinian authorities that ascertain the advertisement did occur. Whether you regard it as hoax, that's beside the point. The point is you don't accept sources from non-western.

Maybe one day you might learn to set aside your own arrogance and bias and make judgements based on what people actually say.

Did I misquote you?

No it isn't remotely similar, the only 'logical' and 'rational' explanation to people who actually know what those words mean being the obvious one. Now even the conspiracy nuts have given up it really is quite pathetic people such as yourself remain in such sad denial over Islamicist responsibility for that appalling incident, but I think we are straying somewhat from the thread topic now, don't you think?

Of course it is only your opinion without evidence. Every single video from 9/11 showed that Tower 7 went on freefall destruction without remotely being hit by the planes, but of course you believe the US government propaganda when they said the Tower 7 was destroyed by the planes. You see, I am only showing you that no one is free from being influenced by their biases. Muslims may have biases and influenced by muslim sources, but you also fall prey from your own western sources and influences; you easily accept things provided by western sources even if they are not backed up by the least sufficient evidence you would expect from muslim sources.
Let's say situation in reverse: two planes controlled by CIA hit two towers in Riyadh, and they went on instant freefall, and then there is another tower hundred of meters away suddenly also went on freefall without any reason, would you also believe when KSA government claimed that the other tower was destroyed by the plane, even though all videos from the event show that was not possible?
By the way, do you also believe the US government's reasons why they buried "OBL" at sea?

 

[Maryan0]

That picture posted is very powerful. May Allah ease the suffering of the Palestinians.
Salam

 

[Trumble]

I have given you the interview sources from the palestinian authorities that ascertain the advertisement did occur. Whether you regard it as hoax, that's beside the point. The point is you don't accept sources from non-western.

No, they 'ascertain' the Palestinian authority had exactly the same information and saw the same picture as everybody else. But, and I am really sick of having to repeat this, there is absolutely no evidence - anywhere - that the picture was ever used as an advertisement for cars. The Chinese article never produced it. Press TV never produced it. The Palestinian Authority never produced it. You certainly haven't produced it. It doesn't exist. It is not a case of not accepting non-Western sources, there is no source at all! It is a hoax, which is the only point of significance.

Did I misquote you?

Did I claim you did? Try reading again.

Of course it is only your opinion without evidence. Every single video from 9/11 showed that Tower 7 went on freefall destruction without remotely being hit by the planes, but of course you believe the US government propaganda when they said the Tower 7 was destroyed by the planes. You see, I am only showing you that no one is free from being influenced by their biases.

I'm afraid you are only showing me the depth of your denial, and the total lack of rational thought associated with it. It is hard to think of an incident where the evidence has been more closely considered, so the first sentence is nonsensical - of course it is not 'my opinion without evidence'. All that stuff (which was hardly convincing in the first place) was debunked years ago and even the conspiracy nuts have given up and gone home. And, small point I know, nobody ever claimed that building was hit by the planes in the first place.

We know who was responsible and what happened. Get over it.

By the way, do you also believe the US government's reasons why they buried "OBL" at sea?

Actually, yes. Not least because in the circumstances it's exactly what I would have decided to do. Of course, if he ever turns up alive sharing a McDonalds with Elvis, I'll reconsider.

 

[Ramadhan]

No, they 'ascertain' the Palestinian authority had exactly the same information and saw the same picture as everybody else. But, and I am really sick of having to repeat this, there is absolutely no evidence - anywhere - that the picture was ever used as an advertisement for cars. The Chinese article never produced it. Press TV never produced it. The Palestinian Authority never produced it. You certainly haven't produced it. It doesn't exist. It is not a case of not accepting non-Western sources, there is no source at all! It is a hoax, which is the only point of significance.

Judging by your statement above, is this your stance:
if one cannot search for it on the net, then it must not exist.

'm afraid you are only showing me the depth of your denial, and the total lack of rational thought associated with it. It is hard to think of an incident where the evidence has been more closely considered, so the first sentence is nonsensical - of course it is not 'my opinion without evidence'. All that stuff (which was hardly convincing in the first place) was debunked years ago and even the conspiracy nuts have given up and gone home and nobody ever claimed that building was hit by the planes in the first place. We know who was responsible and what happened. Get over it.

Then please explain to me how a huge tower sitting on its own crumbled free fall without any reason while other buildings next to it didn't even experience tremors (apart from the two towers obviously)

Actually, yes. Not least because in the circumstances it's exactly what I would have decided to do. Of course, if he ever turns up alive sharing a McDonalds with Elvis, I'll reconsider.

I take this as proof that you have your own biases and prone to propaganda from people you think you can trust, even if logic and evidence contradict it and show otherwise.

 

[Trumble]

Judging by your statement above, is this your stance:
if one cannot search for it on the net, then it must not exist.

One can search for anything. I assume you mean find it on the net, and no that is not my general stance (although you can probably find most things, these days). In this instance, though, it is utterly absurd to think that something so integral to the whole story would somehow be forgotten or just not mentioned. Are you seriously suggesting the 'sources' are actually in possession of piles of leaflets and magazines that include the photo, saved copies of advertisments on What Car? (Israel) or photos of billboards, but somehow thought them not significant enough to tell anybody? Get outa here!!

Then please explain to me how a huge tower sitting on its own crumbled free fall without any reason while other buildings next to it didn't even experience tremors (apart from the two towers obviously)

Obviously there was a reason for everything that occurred, even when that reason is unknown. This particular example of conspiracy theory would be laughable in other circumstances as what is never offered, of course, is a remotely plausible explanation of why the US government would choose to destroy a building that was obviously not, and never likely to be, hit by the planes.

However, all that aside, not being an engineer I'll leave that one to the professionals. 'Structure' magazine

I take this as proof that you have your own biases and prone to propaganda from people you think you can trust, even if logic and evidence contradict it and show otherwise.

Take it as what you like. I just wonder what definitions of 'logic' and 'evidence' you are using!

 

[truthseeker63]

This is sad.