~ Israel Provoked Six-Day War ~

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Zman said:

I already posted the video of Leah Rabin (on another thread, you can conduct a search for it) being interviewed and she stated that the British & French Air Forces aided Israel in 1948.

As for rav "proving" me wrong, all he did was post Arab quotes. I countered by posting quotes by Israeli professors & Generals stating that Israel was preparing for the 1967 War immediately after the Tripple Agression of 1956.

They also stated that Israel carried out many provocative acts in order to bait the Arabs into over-reacting, that way Israel can claim to be the "victim, again," and attack in order to "defend" itself.

(The Arabs should have seized those Israeli provocations and actually attack her, since her acts can be classified as acts of war. If Israel can use that excuse, the Arabs have every right to use it also).
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I apologize it was grenville on page 2 of this thread that really put that theory to rest with the documented flight patterns and distances. The US and the british didnt have involvement, as Cognescenti stated, it was a miserable failure for the Arabs and they will lie and propagate until they are dead.

To your miserable accusation of Israel provoking the surround Arab states, that is nothing but bologna, why would they even need to "provoke" them? Their mere existance was provocation enough, as history proves it to be. Some of the neighboring countries are still looking for a way, and even countries that are not neighboring are, now they just do it indirectly that way their sorry asses dont have to take responsibility for it and get their butts whipped again.

Bottom line, Israel won that war and every war since that has involved its borders and right to exist. It has been over 40 years, time to let it go, they are the victors and they will exist as long as God wishes for it to exist, but if you can take anything from history you will see that Israel will not be taken back by Arabs.
 
MTAFFI said:
...To your miserable accusation of Israel provoking the surround Arab states,...
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Actually, it isn't my accusation. It's been proven with quotes obtained from Israeli Professors & Generals.

But, it's ok. I forgive you. I know that the truth for you is hard to swollow, and you're Just in denial...
 
Shut up saying Hamas exists is bad if Hamas didnt exist Palestine woudnt have a chance of being a independent state but Hamas have placed a lot of pressure on Israel to give Palestine a independent state long live HAMAS.
 
ISLAMASWEENEY said:
Shut up saying Hamas exists is bad if Hamas didnt exist Palestine woudnt have a chance of being a independent state but Hamas have placed a lot of pressure on Israel to give Palestine a independent state long live HAMAS.
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The reality is the opposite of what you put forth. Hamas has lessened the chances of a Palestinian state, not increased it. Fatah, while corrupt and problamatic, at least had enough credibility, i.e., Abbas, to negotiate with Israel about the future. Hamas, while technically having a political arm, is still primarily a terrorist/paramilitary organization. Perhaps if the political wing of Hamas can demonstrate its capability of providing stability, then Israel will have a viable negotiating partner.
 
ISLAMASWEENEY said:
Shut up saying Hamas exists is bad if Hamas didnt exist Palestine woudnt have a chance of being a independent state but Hamas have placed a lot of pressure on Israel to give Palestine a independent state long live HAMAS.
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Do you have any connection with reality? :rolleyes:
An indepandant state would have little international recognation as long as a prime objective of that state would be the distruction of another state.:?
 
wilberhum said:
Do you have any connection with reality? :rolleyes:
An indepandant state would have little international recognation as long as a prime objective of that state would be the distruction of another state.:?
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Well it's certainly working for Israel! they are getting all the recognition they need and they have been collectively punishing and ethnically cleansing the Palestinians for some time now. For failing to realise this you are in no position to question someone's judgement of reality.



FYI Independent* Recognition*
 
Grenville said:
To this day, the erroneous assertion of US and UK participation is taught to Egyptian school children at school by their teachers and text books.
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Just wondring, have you ever been to a school in Egypt to see what they are being taught?
 
For failing to realise this you are in no position to question someone's judgement of reality.
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Where is the KKK conection?
It is not there. You know it is not there.
What do you call people who knowingly make false statements?
I was trying to be kind when I said "Do you have any connection with reality?"

Israel "ethnically cleansing the Palestinians"? Sure they are.
Every time rockets are lonched at Israel, Israel does some more "ethnically cleansing".
 
wilberhum said:
Where is the KKK conection?
It is not there. You know it is not there.".
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Read the relevant thread.

wilberhum said:
What do you call people who knowingly make false statements?
I was trying to be kind when I said "Do you have any connection with reality?"
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O really billy boy? :D

You gonna be sleeping with the fishes tonight? :Evil:
Maybe too late already considering your avatar HAHAHA
 
Zman said:

Actually, it isn't my accusation. It's been proven with quotes obtained from Israeli Professors & Generals.

But, it's ok. I forgive you. I know that the truth for you is hard to swollow, and you're Just in denial...
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It is no more than an accusation, you cite a handful of "professors and generals" who more than likely have a bias against Israel for whatever reason. This hardly makes these accusations proof or fact. The Arab states said everything short of declaring war, they gathered their troops, battle ready, at the border of Israel, what were they expecting? I dont know but I can tell you what they werent expecting, getting the sand blown out from underneath them. What a humiliating defeat that was and then to come back again, attack on a religious holiday, only to suffer yet another defeat.... Gosh I can see why they choose to rewrite history in text books for their children, I wouldnt want a whole nation of youngsters to think my country was a bunch of losers either.

As far as me being in denial, I think you have it backwards my friend. You are the one who is trying to go back 40+ years to try to make a case that Israel provoked the war with the Arabs, not me, by the way why would Israel need to provoke the Arabs? Is their existence not good enough? Anyways, just to let you know (no offense to any Jews or Israelis) I dont really care about Israel, I appreciate their intelligence and contributions to my country, but the countries name being on the map, I gotta say I dont care, I wouldnt care if they won or lost their war to me it is just people and land and has a zero effect on my life. With that said, there is no dispute that Israel has conquered its land and the land is and will be theirs for a long time to come, can you dispute that? If not then who is having a hard time swallowing here?
 
Good point but if Israel gives Palestine a independent state do you actually think Hamas will want to destruct Israel Hamas is only saying this to give Palestine a independent state.
 
ISLAMASWEENEY said:
Good point but if Israel gives Palestine a independent state do you actually think Hamas will want to destruct Israel Hamas is only saying this to give Palestine a independent state.
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Hamas is too blunt about things, they actually stated that they would like a 10 year peace deal so they could build up their military and infrastructure only to come back and fight Israel again, it is a good plan but you dont tell your enemy, " Hey give me a break for a minute so I can regroup and then come back and take your land and kill your people", it just wasnt a very strategical statement and because of it, Israel will not recognize Hamas and they will fight Hamas until they are all dead or recognize Israel. Sad really
 

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