Israeli attacks flotilla, sign petition

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The most ironic thing is, it is the israelis who are aliens, and it is the palestinians who are the natives and landowners.

Almost all israelis now are either immigrants or second and third generations of immigrants.

Can you imagine if there's sudden super massive influx of chinese to the US, and forced the current US citizens to either flee to mexico or confine the rest to Montana and then blockade montana from receiving aid or anything, and then subject them to daily humiliation??

It seems to me that after years of brainwashing by western media and Israel's lobby and PR machines, most US or europeans totally forgot what actually happened in Palestina and unaware by what's really happening.


Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you glo,

I understand that the Israeli Nation are the chosen people of God, but in the Jewish scriptures, which is also our Old Testament, we find such verses as……..

Exodus 22:21
"Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.

Leviticus 19:10
Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.


Leviticus 19
33 " 'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. 34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.


In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,

Eric
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Alhamdulillah, the joke will be on those evil transgessors who think they are the God's chosen people and those who think they are saved already.
Allah SWT already prepared jahannam for those people.
 
glo said:
It has to be said though that Argamemnon is not wrong. Many Christians (perhaps more in the US??) seem to side very strongly with Israel. Either because they see Jews as their 'spiritual cousins', or because they see Israel as part of God's prophecy to his people and therefore want to see it protected?
To be honest, I have never quite understood the reasons fully ... :hmm:
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Hi sister Glo !
Your post was just great. But it remembered me another question that I want to ask every christian brother and sister : If christians believe Jesus is God, and They believe that jews did kill Jesus. How can some christians believe that jews are God's chosen people? How can God's choosen people kill God (astaghfirullah)? and isn't that enough to be sure that the jewish belief is corrupt (changed after Prophet Moses), so they're not worth following them.
Second, if Israel is God's prophecy (as jews believe and some christians believe them) then why should christians protect it, it's officially protected by God if it's a God's prophecy, no? so no need to protect it.

These questions are not directly addressed to you, but as I said the above posts remembered me that, and I really don't understand it.
 
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Sis glo, you said that "many Christians side with the Jews but you never understood the reason fully" so what I can do is to give you my reason, this is what I think.
The whole US would never ever speak up against Israel as we have again recently seen...I mean the whole world is decrying Israel's autocracy but America won't speak a word about it!

US is under a total control of the Jews! All higher posts, or most of them are, with Jews. They are controlling America. Many Christians tried to speak up against it but Jews have their own way of getting rid of such people. Even Obama can't do anything against the wish of Jews! And I have like a hell lot strong reasons to believe it to be true!
 
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got this mail .

Incredible -- we reached our 200,000 target in 24 hours! The first petition delivery is done and the pressure is working -- let's get to half a million! Here's the email, let's send it to everyone:

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Dear friends,

Israel's deadly raid on a flotilla of aid ships headed for Gaza has shocked the world.

Israel, like any other state, has the right to self-defence, but this was an outrageous use of lethal force to defend an outrageous and lethal policy -- Israel's blockade of Gaza, where two thirds of families don't know where they'll find their next meal.

The UN, EU, and nearly every other government and multilateral organization have called on Israel to lift the blockade and, now, launch a full investigation of the flotilla raid. But without massive pressure from their citizens, world leaders might limit their response to mere words -- as they have so many times before.

Let's make the world's outcry too loud to ignore. Join the petition for an international investigation into the raid, accountability for those responsible, and an immediate end to the blockade in Gaza -- click to sign the petition, and then forward this message to everyone:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_flotilla_8/?vl
 
And the signatures keep coming in! :)

Naidamar, marwen and An33za, if I am not replying to your posts, then only because I feel it doesn't belong into this thread.

This thread was kindly started by Eric to encourage people to show their support against the blockade of Gaza. Signatures seem to come in from all over the world and - judging by the names - not just from Muslims either!
Let me also say that I have heard of Jews who speak out against the blockade too. Woodrow even posted information about an 80-year-old Jewish Holocaust survivor who was amongst the activists on the flotilla. So you cannot judge all Jews to be the same, just as you cannot judge all Christians to be the same.

Let each of us act according to our conscience.
I would rather keep that spirit of mutual understanding and joint effort for a common cause than let this thread turn into another debate. This is for the people of Gaza!

I hope you understand. :)
 
glo said:
And the signatures keep coming in! :)

Naidamar, marwen and An33za, if I am not replying to your posts, then only because I feel it doesn't belong into this thread.

This thread was kindly started by Eric to encourage people to show their support against the blockade of Gaza. Signatures seem to come in from all over the world and - judging by the names - not just from Muslims either!
Let me also say that I have heard of Jews who speak out against the blockade too. Woodrow even posted information about an 80-year-old Jewish Holocaust survivor who was amongst the activists on the flotilla. So you cannot judge all Jews to be the same, just as you cannot judge all Christians to be the same.

Let each of us act according to our conscience.
I would rather keep that spirit of mutual understanding and joint effort for a common cause than let this thread turn into another debate. This is for the people of Gaza!

I hope you understand. :)
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Agreed 100 % ! Thanks for that.
 
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US is under a total control of the Jews! All higher posts, or most of them are, with Jews. They are controlling America. Many Christians tried to speak up against it but Jews have their own way of getting rid of such people. Even Obama can't do anything against the wish of Jews! And I have like a hell lot strong reasons to believe it to be true!
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Even atheist Americans support Israel passionately, I think it also has to do with imperialism. Most Americans worship power and money, they don't care about human life or human rights (except their own). They see life as a brutal competition; either kill or be killed, there is no such thing as peaceful coexistance in their dictionary. This mentality is unfortunately very widespread in the West and in the US in particular.
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you glo,

I understand that the Israeli Nation are the chosen people of God, but in the Jewish scriptures, which is also our Old Testament, we find such verses as……..

Exodus 22:21
"Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.



Leviticus 19:10
Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.


Leviticus 19
33 " 'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. 34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.


In the spirit of praying for justice for all people,

Eric
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its israil woh breakes the law of Allah and the law of human beings
 
glo said:
Greetings, Eric. It is always nice to see your smiling face! (Well, I imagine it being smiling ... :))

It has to be said though that Argamemnon is not wrong. Many Christians (perhaps more in the US??) seem to side very strongly with Israel. Either because they see Jews as their 'spiritual cousins', or because they see Israel as part of God's prophecy to his people and therefore want to see it protected?
To be honest, I have never quite understood the reasons fully ... :hmm:

Like you say, I see it as a question of human rights and human treating their fellow humans with kindness, care and charity. I don't see Israel treating Gaza in such a way, and that's wrong.
You are right, it's not about politics or about religion - it's about humanity!
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a pure religion must includes human rights even if some followers do NOT and there are some things that can not be denied except for bad people like what is happening in ghaza and what happened in 9-11 whether muslim or not
 
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