Israel's Brutality!

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SATalha said:
Yes the mèdia coverage is very bad. If any 1 wants 2 read more get hold of the book 'bad news from israel' this boOk shows how bias the media is
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Is there any conflict which gets enough attention in the media though? Maybe Iraq, but only in the US and UK media really, because they are so involved in it. All other conflicts get little to no attention, regardless if millions of 'only' hundreds die.
 
Thats why its up 2 us 2 do somthing. Thd i-net is very useful. I dönt think there is any doubt over the fact that the media ultimatly r broadcasting 4 a certain ideology. So anything that goes against this will b destorted and even lied about. Like fox's representation of Barak Obama
 
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ManchesterFolk said:
Right, and Israeli soldiers may go mad after seeing there babies blown up into pieces by suicide bombers. Both sides are brutal. Don't excuse one side.
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perfectly put, both sides in this conflict are in the wrong, neither wants to give, they both only want to take. In the end, and I hope I am wrong, but I think they will destroy that entire land and each other and then who wins??
 
AmarFaisal said:
What the Israelis don’t want the whole world to see
What the Israelis don’t wanCities that were turned into empty “ghost houses” by the Israeli armies within 10 days only
The First Massacre in the 21st Century
The Dirtiest Bloodshed in the history of Mankind
The Massacres of Nablus and Jenin in Palestine
Claiming to fight terrorism
But they were unable to perform the “complete crime
WARNING: The following pictures are harsh and inhumane.
May God bless our Martyrs, may they rest in peace up in the heavens
THE FACTS
During the last Israeli incursions in Jenin and Nablus, more than 500 Palestinians were reported killed …
… Ambulances and red cross workers were prevented from saving injured people by the Israeli Forces
What is your role now ? Just watch? Cry?
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I've seen worse in Baghdad between Sunnis and Shi'a.
 
Goku said:
:sl: Agreed.

Israel's crimes against the Palestinians get little coverage in the Western media anyway. I'd say the BBC and Al Jazeera do show some of what happens to the Palestinians, BBC is very mainstream so hopefully the message is getting across, the occupation of Palestine must be lifted, Insha'Allah.
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Sorry for double-posting, but I do agree that Palestine's occupation must be lifted. But don't you think might be a little too one-sided with this issue.

First, Israel isn't the only country that persecutes or discriminates against arabs. In British Schools, muslim girls are forbidden to wear their sacred facial attire.

Second, more muslims die in Iraq than probably has ever been in Israel's existence.

Third, when people are tring to kill terrorist and those terrorist live in or near houses of innocent people, then you are bound to have innocent people killed.

Think of how many innocent people are killed by suicide bombers.

Therefore, this isn't all Israel's fault.

Where does the blame fall? It is everyone's fault. That is where the blame falls.

1) Britain for trying to establish a Jewish state in the middle east.

2) United States for stressing Britain not to kill Jews that are trying to immigrate to Palestine-Israel.

3) Israelis for not trying to establish a federal government to end the tension between the Israelis and Palestinians. Also for not trying to reach an agreement with Arab Peace Proposals. And for taking over the Golan Heights and illegally occupying lands for no reason at all. Moreover, forcing some of the Palestinians from their homes. And most of all having settlers in Palestinian land thus promoting more tension.

4) Jordan for taking over the West bank and East Jerusalem, instead of establishing the state of Palestine for the Palestinians.

5) Germany for forcing out the Jews into Israel.

6) Palestine (though not a majority of them) for supporting Nazi Germany and thus supporting more Jewish Immigration into Israel. Allowing Palestinian Refugee children to be called refugees and not Palestinian Egyptians, Palestinian Jordans, or whatever. That account insures a less likely chance for refugees to return to their land. They are also guilty of not supporting the federal arrangement. Why is not supporting a federal arrangement they very sinful act that doomed Palestinians? Well it is very much elementary. A federal government would allow there to be freely established Palestinians states. It would also establish a central government which could establish a constitution that allows the freedom of religion for the Arabs that continue to live in Israel. Only Zionistic Israelis feel the same way that Palestinians do about a federal government, because it would remove Jerusalem as being the capital of Israel.

7) al-Queda for supporting and issuing terrorism, which only deteriates their goals in liberating the middle-east.

8) Iran for targeting Israel and thus pressuring the Israelis to act even more paranoid than normally.

9) Arab League for not accepting the U.N. Partition Plan.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/1947PartitionPlan.PNG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Israel.png

BIG Difference. If the Arab League had accepted the U.N. Partition then the the 1948 Arab-Israeli War would never had happened and Palestinians would never had to move or be forced out of their land. This current situation between Palestine and Israel would never have happened or be as intense as it is today and Palestine would exist entirely seperate from Israel.

10) Me for not being born sooner. I bet I could have solved this whole problem with a very easy manner.

All I had to do is get the UN to pay each Arab for their land and establish a state or several states that the Arabs could live in to establish a single Israel state. The Arabs would be pay fairly and handsomely for their land thus they can each live as kings if they wish rather than living in the current poverty status. The land differences would probably be the same as they were same as they are today, but the Palestinians would be living in a much more wealthier status and thus able to survive under much better terms.

Would that really solve the problem? Well let's think about it. An establish Israel state and a bunch of wealthy Palestinians States. Now what's not great about that? It would certainly be better than how Israel was first established. You do know that Ancient Israel was founded off of the massacring of innocent people like the people of Ancient Jericho. I think we should all be glad that even didn't re-occur under the same instances seen in history. I am sorry if you don't agree. But I certainly believe things would be far better off than they are right now. Would you be happier to have Palestinians living under better conditions than they are right now?
 
In Darfur, more Muslims are killed by Muslims everyday more then all the Arabs that have died combined in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Yet, it gets about 100X times less coverage here and on every Muslims news network. This is the clearest sign that this has to do more then the Palestinas, but Jews living not under Islamic control.
 
all i can say is may allah(swa) help those in need of help.......and inshallah hopefully everything is goin to be alright...........
 
Salamoalaikum,

I have heard the region named "Dafur", but have no idea abt it. Why r Muslims killing Muslims there.

Unfortunately, very very unfortunately, Suicide bombers in Pakistan have targetted other Muslims praying in mosques and their gatherings.
 
I have heard the region named "Dafur", but have no idea abt it. Why r Muslims killing Muslims there.

Unfortunately, very very unfortunately, Suicide bombers in Pakistan have targetted other Muslims praying in mosques and their gatherings.
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The black Muslims in Darfur are being wiped out by the Arab/Black Muslims of a different tribe/ethnicity.

The state of Israel has begun letting in all these Muslim refugees from Darfur that many Arab countries will not take. The President of Iran says it is a myth like the Holocaust and supports Sudan's goverment which is supporting the genocide, but we all know what is happening.

Israel began helping Darfurs Muslims by granting many political help and also giving them money to rent apartments and such. However, because Israels help, now Sudanesse that are not even in trouble are trying to get into Israel because financial help Israel is giving to Muslims from Sudan, so now Israel is in a tough descion on should the keep the borders open or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed
http://www.savedarfur.org/content?splash=yes
http://www.darfurgenocide.org/
 
If u ask me Israel is a breach of every jews fundemental beliefs. Zionism and Jewdaism are 2 seperate things. But what do i know a muslim talking about jewish beliefs
 
SATalha said:
If u ask me Israel is a breach of every jews fundemental beliefs. Zionism and Jewdaism are 2 seperate things. But what do i know a muslim talking about jewish beliefs
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You should read this post.

lavikor201 said:
The black Muslims in Darfur are being wiped out by the Arab/Black Muslims of a different tribe/ethnicity.

The state of Israel has begun letting in all these Muslim refugees from Darfur that many Arab countries will not take. The President of Iran says it is a myth like the Holocaust and supports Sudan's goverment which is supporting the genocide, but we all know what is happening.

Israel began helping Darfurs Muslims by granting many political help and also giving them money to rent apartments and such. However, because Israels help, now Sudanesse that are not even in trouble are trying to get into Israel because financial help Israel is giving to Muslims from Sudan, so now Israel is in a tough descion on should the keep the borders open or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed
http://www.savedarfur.org/content?splash=yes
http://www.darfurgenocide.org/
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Israel is not as bad of a state that most people think it is.

There are good and bad people in every country. Israel does have good people that are Jewish.

This is a general rule that should be in every religious text. That people of both good and evil can be found in every society. Unless that society wasn't human.
 
i dont want 2 b rude and i understand wat u r saying. Brutality....israel? They go 2 gether. I hope they stop though both sides.
 
Assalamoalaikum,

Unfortunately, the media is either this way or that. Either they show Israel good or bad, and there is no way in between.

As I have never met an Israeli or Jew in my life, I am sure if I meet one, I'd feel I am seeing a killer, a terrorist. I might have to try very hard to be neutral and see that person as a normal person.

The same is true for Americans, Europeans, British or Australians etc who haven seldom met a good muslim. So when they see a man with a beard, or a muslim, they just interpret him as a Terrorist. Or are nearly scared of women with hijab and jilbab.

Similarly, I 'd tell here a small incident. I was travelling on a long flight of 12 hrs when I found out the person sitting next to me was a retired Indian Army Officer. I got **** scared that he's going to curse Pakistan n talk down abt my country or look at me hatefuly etc.Very surprisingly for me, He talked abt Pakistan in very good words. He left a g8 image in my mind for an Indian Army Officer. Compeletly different from the Indian Movie/media images of Indian Officers who are always cursing Pakistan.
 
SATalha said:
Very true. Pakistanis are always demonised.
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Well Pakistan has those tribes that it needs to take care of. It needs to modernize those war tribes. And if they get into a conflict, then they should just kill them off. Pakistan has nukes. They can use them on those tribes and they should if they can't pacify them.
 
Darkseid said:
Well Pakistan has those tribes that it needs to take care of. It needs to modernize those war tribes. And if they get into a conflict, then they should just kill them off. Pakistan has nukes. They can use them on those tribes and they should if they can't pacify them.
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Why do I get the feeling you have never been in Pakistan.

Outside of that, using a nuke within the boundaries of your own country makes about as much sense as burning your house down to get rid of ants.

Pakistan is only about 1.25 times the size of the state of Texas.

Pakistan = 310,403 sq miles

Texas = 268,601 sq.mi

Using a Nuke inside the country boundaries would make as much sense as if the State Dept had used nukes against David Koresh in Waco.
 

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