Israel's sex trafficking

Cognescenti said:
Oh can it. That is an old story and an old dodge. All readers here know exactly what is meant by the modern English usage of the word.
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Indeed. It's not even a case of knowing "what is meant", it is how "anti-semite" is defined. The usual meaning of the prefix does not, in this instance, dictate the meaning of the compound. Opening a book, in the form of a dictionary, is indeed helpful - but you need to look up the right word. :sunny:
 
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Cognescenti said:
Oh can it. That is an old story and an old dodge. All readers here know exactly what is meant by the modern English usage of the word.
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Take a hike gadfly

Here is some breaking news..when the term "Aryan" is used since the mid 19th century the speaker doesn't mean "proto-Indian-Iranians" either.
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this affects me how?

Call it what you will, Anti-Jew, anti-Hebe, anti-Kike there is some serious hatred on display in this thread and citing the anthropological etymology of a commonly understood word doesnt' erase it. This is the 21st Century, sis.

Thanks for playing.
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Again, I ain't your sis..don't like participating here don't be here..you are bound to read things you won't like...
 
Jayda said:
hola

i think the topic has dwindled off into antisemitism a bit too much.

human trafficking is a major issue in africa, latin america and eastern europe and i saw a map on the previous page that showed a very interesting trend of people being trafficked from the developing world into the developed world. it is frightening to think that this happens in our own backyards... but it also seems a little fantastic. i could not imagine any of my neighbors or friends secretly holding foreign people captive in their homes... it would be totally out of place. i am sure many others feel the same...

i wonder how so this could happen to so many people without anyone really knowing about it... and what type of person is it that decides to take another person as a slave? is it a psychological problem or just an abusive nature?

que Dios te bendiga
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The trafficking will always be from developing countries to developed countries.

Without anyone really knowing about it? You must be joking. :(

Illegal immigrants are a prime source/target to Human Trafficking.

Just one more reason we need to stop illegal immigration. :hiding:
 
I believe a forced prostitution ring was busted up in Chicago recently that involved illegal aliens.
 
Keltoi said:
I believe a forced prostitution ring was busted up in Chicago recently that involved illegal aliens.
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Illegal immigrants are the main source of forced prostitution.

They can't go to the legal authority and they have few if any options.

Many are smuggled into the country for that very purpose, they just don’t know it.

Remember that many of these “Victims” hired criminals to get them here.
Just imagine that. A criminal taking advantage of some one.
Who would have ever thought? :hiding:

Then there are the “Border Patrol” widows and the “Law Enforcement” widows. Made widows by those nice “Coyoties” those innocent people hired.

And some people just sit back and say “What’s the problem” or "you’re just a bigot". :hmm:
 
wilberhum said:
Illegal immigrants are the main source of forced prostitution.

They can't go to the legal authority and they have few if any options.

Many are smuggled into the country for that very purpose, they just don’t know it.

Remember that many of these “Victims” hired criminals to get them here.
Just imagine that. A criminal taking advantage of some one.
Who would have ever thought? :hiding:

Then there are the “Border Patrol” widows and the “Law Enforcement” widows. Made widows by those nice “Coyoties” those innocent people hired.

And some people just sit back and say “What’s the problem” or "you’re just a bigot". :hmm:
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great points, but how do you actually control immigration and sex trafficking? especially in places like the US and Europe where borders are largely unsecured? How do you secure the border effectively? I have gone around and around in my head about this, because with such a long range of desert border the opportunities are endless for those who wish to try, it is like being caught between a rock and a hard place. Personally in the next 20 -30 years i would like to see optical recognition instituted everywhere, that way in order to get into buildings, etc. you have a completely unique ID and when the ID does not match the appropriate parties are alerted. It may sound far fetched but it is already in use in Dubai and is proving very effective.
 
MTAFFI said:
great points, but how do you actually control immigration and sex trafficking? especially in places like the US and Europe where borders are largely unsecured? How do you secure the border effectively? I have gone around and around in my head about this, because with such a long range of desert border the opportunities are endless for those who wish to try, it is like being caught between a rock and a hard place. Personally in the next 20 -30 years i would like to see optical recognition instituted everywhere, that way in order to get into buildings, etc. you have a completely unique ID and when the ID does not match the appropriate parties are alerted. It may sound far fetched but it is already in use in Dubai and is proving very effective.
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How do you actually control immigration and sex trafficking?
Especially in places like the US and Europe where borders are largely unsecured?
I think the second question is the answer to the first.
You can not control immigration without border security.
If I had a cupple of the billions being spent by Bush on the war he started, I think I could do a lot. But then that would hurt the "Big Businesses" that Bush wants to protect an my cost. Oh well so goes life.

But one thing is sure, continuing to ignore the problem will not solve it.

The longer we wait, the worse it will get. :?
 
There is also a sort of indentured servitude(slavery by another name), in which women are promised free passage to the U.S. as long as they "work" off their loan. This happens primarily within the Chinese immigrant community, but it exists nonetheless.
 
I really dont see how human traffiking is "Jewish" at all.

Its done mostly by organized criminal groups operating in the black market.
 
But the authorities from Israel should not take certain actions against the traffic :? I think thats why they are cupable.
 
PurestAmbrosia said:
Do you have something of substance to impart? What do Jews in our neck of the wood have to do with the SECULAR COLONIAL SETTLER ZIONIST STATE OF ISRAEL?
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Mmm i think that it would be hard to find more theocratic state in Middle East than Israel. Iran maybe...
 
Aaron85 said:
Mmm i think that it would be hard to find more theocratic state in Middle East than Israel. Iran maybe...
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israel theocratic???? no way. zionism is a secular, political movement which used religion. israel, though it considers itself a "jewish state" is not a theocracy and was not intended to be.
 
Great Jews in Islam

Abdullah bin Salam (a.k.a Al Husayn ibn Sailam)
* Medinite Jew
* The first rabbi converted to Islam.
* First Muslim that was promised to be member of Paradise.

Safiyya Bint Huyay
* Medinite Jew
* Prophet Muhammad's wife
* Mother of the Faithfuls
* Supplied food and water to Caliph Uthman when he was besieged

Ali ibn Sahl
* Persian Jew
* Scholar in Medicine
* Teacher of Al Razi (Rhazes)

Ibn Kammuna
* Philosopher
* Expounder of the Illuminationist Philosophy

Ibn Killis (a.k.a Abu Al Farj Ya'qub bin Yusuf)
* Iraqi Jew
* First Chief Minister of Fatimide Caliphate in Egypt
* Founder of Al Azhar University

Ka'ab Al Abhar (Ka'ab ibn Mati Al Himyari)
* Yemenite Jew
* ex-Rabbi
* Caliph Uthman's Counselor and Advisor regarding to holy sites in Jerusalem

Muhammad Asad (Leopold Weiss)
* Austrian Jew
* Traveller
* Translator of the Koran

Rashid Al Din
* Persian Jew
* Historian
* Physician
 
snakelegs said:
israel theocratic???? no way. zionism is a secular, political movement which used religion. israel, though it considers itself a "jewish state" is not a theocracy and was not intended to be.
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Only if you knew what powers have orthodox jewish laws in Israel, you would change your mind.
 
Wow this thread is such a catfight...I think i'll go look for some other decent civilized conversation(thread)

btw: prostitution is such a disgusting and dirty thing
 
Aaron85 said:
Mmm i think that it would be hard to find more theocratic state in Middle East than Israel. Iran maybe...
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Both Israel and Iran are secular states, you need only read more about shiites and visit the questions about Judaism answered by a Jew thread to figure that out. Personally it is visible to the naked eye... Israel is but a mini United states, except they do most of the thinking for the U.S.. Just like in the book of mice and men from your days in junior high!


cheers!
 
Aaron85 said:
Only if you knew what powers have orthodox jewish laws in Israel, you would change your mind.
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Well. Some Jewish laws might well be implemented in Israel and orthodox Jews might well have a large influence. However, this is simply a result of the democratic system in Israel and not a result of the political system as such. In other words, there are no mechanisms in the Israeli constitution that enforce Jewish law or forbid laws that are in violation of Jewish law. This is completely contrary to for example Iran or Saudi-Arabia where laws are theoretically checked to see if they are not in violation of Islamic Law. There are separate legislative or judicial institutions in those countries that are responsible for this, such as the Council of Guardians in Iran.

I don't think you could ever call a country 'theocratic' if it fails this basic test IMHO, if it's constitution doesn't even prescribe that religious law trumps any other law.
 
I was rather talking about the influence of orthodox Jews on for example Israel's immigration law (orthodox decide who is Jew and who is not),on army (the rabbies in military are all orthodox), religion case (only orthodox synagogues get finincial support from the state) the family and marriage issues. Maybe im wrong but isn't the road movement closed in Sabat in Israeli citis? Or it is only in orthodox areas?
PS. I know that in constitution Israel is secular country, but the religious parties have played very important role in most of israeli goverments, and politicians ussually dont resist their demands.
 

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