Jesus never said "Father"

[Sojourn]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Jesus (Eisa alaihi salaam) was one of the great Prophets and Messengers (alaihim salaam). Allah sent Prophets and Messengers to guide mankind towards Tawheed which is the absolute one-ness and uniqueness of God Allah. So he could never say Father to the Almighty God and he (Jesus) could never say that he was God himself. He could never say that he was one of the three constituents of God, even he couldn't say that God is composed of three constituents.


All of these SENSELESS beliefs are false accusations on Jesus (Eisa alaihi salaam) for which the accusers shall suffer everlasting grievous punishment. That punishment shall takeover the sinners right at the time of death and then will never end.

Your question is not very clear. But I try to answer, if it is not the answer then you should make your question understandable.


Islam has been the religion of all Prophets since Adam alaihi salaam till the Final Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. This is the religion that Allah sent down for all human beings and for the jinns. Eisa (Jesus) alaihi salaam was from among all those Prophets alaihim salaam. Every Prophet was very great. We are not supposed to make difference among them. You can see the translation of the following verse of the Holy Quraan:

[h=2]The Messenger (Muhammad SAW) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."[/h]

As you can see the underlined red part of the above mentioned verse translated into English, we as Muslims cannot make difference among the Prophets of Allah Almighty. we have to give them all great respect. So all of them, including Eisa (Jesus) alaihim salaam were the great Prophets of Islam.

Jews were basiclly Bani-Isra-eel which means the children of Isra-eel. Isra-eel was the second name of the Prophet Yaqoob (Jacob in Bible) alaihi salaam. Many Prophets were sent to them. That nation lived for very long duration extending from Yaqoob (Jacob) alaihi salaam until now and from now they will exist until the second coming down of Eisa (Jesus ) alaihi salaam from the heaven to the earth. In this long existing nation of the Bani-Isra-eel there were good knowledgeable sections for e.g. those for whom Allah sent Musa alaihi salaam to rescue them from the oppression of Pharaoh. But there were many who were extremely disobedient to the Prophets alaihim salaam. Even they killed many of them. The Holy Quraan gives in detail the blessings given to them and the disobedience that they showed. They were also punished with exemplary punishments, for e.g. a tribe was changed into apes because they didn't respect "Saturday" which was a holy day for them. They disobeyed the Command of Allah to abstain from catching fish on Saturday. So they were cursed and were changed into apes/monkeys!!!



From the above statement you will understand that the Prophets were sent to them to follow the religion Islam in total. But, of course, Tawheed has been the bases of the religion Islam at all times and by all the Prophets. Jesus also was from among those Prophets. Allah created him miraculously and showed them a unique miracle that Eisa (Jesus) alaihi salaam spoke to them when he was a new born baby in the lap of his mother. He was given Injeel (the Gospel) but it didn't have the law. So Eisa alaihi salaam had to teach them Gospel as well as Tawrah because the law was in the Tawrah.


Tawheed was the bases and that included to follow the laws and Commands of Allah. Tawheed means to believe in the absolute Oneness and Uniqueness of Almighty God, but the practical proof of the faith of Tawheed is given by acting upon the Commands and Laws of Allah. All these teachings were included in the duties of Eisa alaihi salaam. The Jews, as usual, turned against him and made a plan to kill him, but they couldn't reach him as Allah lifted him up to the heavens.

You had said that Jesus was sent to guide people towards tawheed. What I'm trying to get at is that the Jews of Jesus' time were staunch monotheists. You'd be hard pressed to find any instance of idolatry amongst them. So why was Jesus sent to them according to your understanding?

Secondly, you said he was given the Injeel. In what way was it given to him? Do you believe an angel recited to injeel to Jesus and he recited it verbatim to his followers?

Third, what did the injeel contain that was different from the Torah?

Fourth, why did the Jews according to you attempt to kill Jesus?

 

[OmAbdullah]

You had said that Jesus was sent to guide people towards tawheed. What I'm trying to get at is that the Jews of Jesus' time were staunch monotheists. You'd be hard pressed to find any instance of idolatry amongst them. So why was Jesus sent to them according to your understanding?

Secondly, you said he was given the Injeel. In what way was it given to him? Do you believe an angel recited to injeel to Jesus and he recited it verbatim to his followers?

Third, what did the injeel contain that was different from the Torah?

Fourth, why did the Jews according to you attempt to kill Jesus?

The questions are irrelevant.

No time for irrelevant questions.

 

[M.I.A.]

Speculative answers are speculative..

If Jesus AS turned up today, what would he preach to the still staunch Jews?

The comparison between America and the Roman empires influence over the Jews of the time can be made... Can it not?

Although I'm no historian.

Same day, different "@&*

..lol, can't even get that right.

 

[Sojourn]

The questions are irrelevant.

No time for irrelevant questions.

Just because you can't answer does not mean it's irrelevant.

If the Islamic paradigm is that Prophets are sent to guide people towards Tawheed, it wouldn't make sense for God to send a prophet to a people that are already staunchly monotheistic, does it?

We Christians know why Jesus was sent to the Jews, and it wasn't to teach them monotheism. So your argument against Jesus calling God "Father" is moot.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Just because you can't answer does not mean it's irrelevant.

If the Islamic paradigm is that Prophets are sent to guide people towards Tawheed, it wouldn't make sense for God to send a prophet to a people that are already staunchly monotheistic, does it?

We Christians know why Jesus was sent to the Jews, and it wasn't to teach them monotheism. So your argument against Jesus calling God "Father" is moot.

You Christians, have many conjectures which a normal wisdom cannot accept at all. You have countless contradictions in the human made additions to the Divine Books of Allah. I don't have time to show you the terrible shameless accusations in Bible, on the great prophets of Allah. You also said that Jesus was sent to be crucified (in that ruthless way) for the forgiveness of all mankind. According to this belief of you, all those killers who are killing and have been killing innocent people, are forgiven and according to your belief, even the killers of a great prophet Jesus are also forgiven. This belief is very shameless and very ruthless. Only due to this ruthless belief of yours, now the Christians and Jews are killing numerous innocent people because you have made the law that Jesus was crucified for their sins so all these killers are forgiven!!! This faith of yours is far from Allah's Justice and is a terrible black accusation on Allah WHO is High above any defect.


How can you say that the Jews were monotheistic??? Didn't they worship cow? Didn't Samree make a calf for their worship and tell them that it was their god? Wasn't Samree punished for that sin when he used to burn if a person came close to him, so he was running away from people and saying, "don't touch me"???
Did not the Jews make Uzer the son of Allah???

If you say that Jews were monotheistic and Jesus was sent as God to them because the Jews didn't need to be guided to Tawheed, then why were so many other prophets sent to them. you cannot deny the coming of so many Prophets to them, Jesus was only one of them, Explain.


This truth is very much proved to normal wise minds that Jesus was a human being and a Prophet of Allah, and that God (Allah) is very High above all human defects. All human beings including Jesus are the creation of Almighty God Allah While Allah (Almighty God) is the ONLY ONE CREATOR.

Allah is the One Unique God, has no son, no relative and doesn't need a son. This belief of the Christians is the biggest of the sins and anyone who died with this sin shall always be burning in the Hell-Fire.

 

[crimsontide06]

Even if Jesus said "Father" , the connotation of "Father"(in Aramaic) over 16 hundred years ago does not mean the same thing it means today...

"My Father whom is in heaven" i.e...My Master, my creator....So yes, he could have said "Father" but it was not meant to be taken literally.

Just like when he is called "son of God"...this just means he was a devout religious person who was a servant of God.

 

[OmAbdullah]

Even if Jesus said "Father" , the connotation of "Father"(in Aramaic) over 16 hundred years ago does not mean the same thing it means today...

"My Father whom is in heaven" i.e...My Master, my creator....So yes, he could have said "Father" but it was not meant to be taken literally.


Just like when he is called "son of God"...this just means he was a devout religious person who was a servant of God.

As a Muslim you must keep away from the words "father and son" regarding the faith of Tawheed of Allah. We shouldn't put ourselves in the everlasting trouble in the life hereafter, by using these misleading words.

 

[OmAbdullah]

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,the Merciful​

Here is the translation of the verses 88---95 of surah Maryam:


88.And they say: The Beneficent has taken unto Himself a son.

89. Indeed you have brought forth (said)a disastrous thing.

90. At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin,

91. That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Beneficent (Allah).

92. When it is not appropriate for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son.

93. There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.

94. He has enumerated them and counted them a [full] counting.

95. And every one of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).

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