Jews provide food for needy Muslims during Ramadan in East Jerusalem

[lavikor201]

someone stole my house n feeds me iftar every night... i'd b real happy

According to the 1947 UN Partition Plan, Jerusalem was supposed to be an international city, not part of either the proposed Jewish or Arab state. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, West Jerusalem was captured by Israel, while East Jerusalem (including the Old City) was captured by Jordan. Upon its capture, the Jordanians immediately expelled all the Jewish residents of the Jewish Quarter, most of whom from families that had been living there for centuries. Many synagogues were destroyed, and the Jewish Quarter was bulldozed.

We are still rebuilding from the loss of a very sacred shul that was around for a long time, and the Arab burned it down, the Jewish quarter will never be the same.

Under Jordanian rule jews were not allowed to visit our holy sites, yet, Jews and Israel allow Muslims to go to the temple mount. Thousands are their each friday.

 

[lolwatever]

According to the 1947 UN Partition Plan, Jerusalem was supposed to be an international city, not part of either the proposed Jewish or Arab state. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, West Jerusalem was captured by Israel, while East Jerusalem (including the Old City) was captured by Jordan. Upon its capture, the Jordanians immediately expelled all the Jewish residents of the Jewish Quarter, most of whom from families that had been living there for centuries. Many synagogues were destroyed, and the Jewish Quarter was bulldozed.

We are still rebuilding from the loss of a very sacred shul that was around for a long time, and the Arab burned it down!

wat made teh UN think it should tell them who the city belongs to ffended:

the UN guys at the tiems where palestinians right :?

 

[lavikor201]

wat made teh UN think it should tell them who the city belongs to ffended:the UN guys at the tiems where palestinians right

If you study archeology, you know exactly who the city belongs to.

The Crusaders, Saladin, Mamalukes, and Ottomans came...

They made the city an INTERNATIONAL CITY for all to worship, and Arabs conquered it, expelled Jews, burnt our synagogues, and bulldozed the jewish quarter... is that fair?????

Thousands of Jews have lived in Jeruslam and trace there family back way before islam or the quran.

 

[lolwatever]

If you study archeology, you know exactly who the city belongs to.

The Crusaders, Saladin, Mamalukes, and Ottomans came...

but the club of warring countries that made up the council... they where palestinians yeh? they where the owners of the land n all... :?

 

[lavikor201]

but the club of warring countries that made up the council... they where palestinians yeh? they where the owners of the land n all... :?

You speak about owners of the land. Did Muslims own Mecca? No, it belonged to a pagan king did it not...

Jerusalem became under Islamic influence when it was conquered, same with Christianity, same with judaism.

There are no exceptions.

Every arab country had an equal vote as the USA had.

THE WORLD VOTED FOR THE RESULTS!

The arab world said, if the world is in our favor we support un democracy, if not, we do not support and we dont care.

 

[Malaikah]

THE WORLD VOTED FOR THE RESULTS!

I cant say i know anything about any of this history stuff, but- just cos lots of people want something, doesnt make it right!

just wanted to point that out....

 

[lolwatever]

You speak about owners of the land. Did Muslims own Mecca? No, it belonged to a pagan king did it not...

Jerusalem became under Islamic influence when it was conquered, same with Christianity, same with judaism.

There are no exceptions.

Every arab country had an equal vote as the USA had.

THE WORLD VOTED FOR THE RESULTS!

The arab world said, if the world is in our favor we support un democracy, if not, we do not support and we dont care.

yep, so accordin 2ur standards, its ok for ppl who don't liv in the land 2 dictate who it goes to :?

when muslims conquered under umar it they didnt kick ne1 out, eventually they became the predominant inhabitants.

but the point is... world voted for results, 5 super powers is the world :? ffended:

take a good look at the map :uuh:

 

[lavikor201]

yep, so accordin 2ur standards, its ok for ppl who don't liv in the land 2 dictate who it goes to

Jews did live in the land. Jews always lived in the land. Who did not live in the land was the Jordanian goverment who conquered east jerusalme and expelled jews who lived there for CENTURYS!

when muslims conquered under umar it they didnt kick ne1 out, eventually they became the predominant inhabitants.

They restricted the rights of Jews to follow Halacha ect. Jewish courts were also limited.

but the point is... world voted for results, 5 super powers is the world

The vote was not 5 superpowers. each country had its own vote, and it was decided by all nations.

Argentina, the USA, Canada and Pakistan all had the same weight in voting.


Well since we went off topic, let us try and redirect this beack to the topic at hand...

 

[lolwatever]

I cant say i know anything about any of this history stuff, but- just cos lots of people want something, doesnt make it right!

just wanted to point that out....

btw, the world accordin 2 lavikador consists of the 3 or 5 nuclear powers... :X

 

[lavikor201]

btw, the world accordin 2 lavikador consists of the 3 or 5 nuclear powers... :X

The world consisted of every nation in the UN. Every nation voted on the matter, Pakistan, USA, Chile, and Canada all had the same vote weight.

 

[lolwatever]

The world consisted of every nation in the UN. Every nation voted on the matter, Pakistan, USA, Chile, and Canada all had the same vote weight.

u4got that their votes carry no weight in the security council :X

and imagine the whole world decided to rob ur house, u b happy boy?

 

[lavikor201]

u4got that their votes carry no weight in the security council :X

You forgot that the creation of Israel was decided by the whole world.
The whole UN voted:
The 33 countries that voted in favor of the partition, as set by UN resolution 181: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Belarus, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukraine, United States, USSR, Uruguay, Venezuela.
The 13 countries that voted against UN Resolution 181: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
The ten countries that abstained: Argentina, Chile, Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.
One state was absent: Thailand.
Following the adoption of the plan, Arab countries proposed to query the International Court of Justice on the competence of the General Assembly to partition a country against the wishes of the majority of its inhabitants (it would place 36% of the Arabs inside the Jewish state). This was narrowly defeated. [3]
Meeting in Cairo in November and December of 1947, the Arab League then adopted a series of resolutions aimed at a military solution to the conflict.

But then again we know how the military solution went... 8 arab countries against israel.... israel basically wiped the floor with them.

 

[lolwatever]

n u 4got my other question :?

 

[lavikor201]

Jerusalem and its Residents and Visitors.

• As soon as Israel came in possession of Jerusalem it immediately abolished all discriminatory policies that were introduced under Jordanian rule.
• Under Israeli law anyone who does anything that may violate freedom of access of members of various religions sacred to them may be punished by a prison term of five years. The Israeli government does its utmost to prevent provocation that might threaten the sanctity of all of Jerusalem's holy places.
• Israel has entrusted the administration of holy places to their relevant representatives. For example, the Muslim Waqf is responsible for the Mosques on the Temple Mount.
• Christians and Muslims across the world including Arab countries that are hostile to Israel have been able to come to Jerusalem to visit their holy shrines.
• Palestinian Arabs in Jerusalem have political and social rights. They are entitled to Israel medical care, they may vote in elections, and they play a role in the administration of the city. They are not entitled to Israeli citizenship until the future status of Jerusalem is determined.

Jerusalem Under Arab Occupation.

• Under Jordanian occupation Jewish residents were forced to leave their homes in East Jerusalem. Freedom of worship was not granted to Jews, and Christian pilgrims were subjected to heavy restrictions. The population of Christians reduced from 25,000 in 1949 to 13,000 in 1967. This was a result of Jordan's repressive measures.
• Under Jordanian occupation Jerusalem was neglected. The Jewish Quarter of the Old City was ransacked and slums surrounded the Western Wall. Basic day-to-day necessities were neglected; water, plumbing, and electricity were lacking.
• The Jordanian government allowed Jewish graves to be destroyed in the Mount of Olives by allowing a highway to be built that crosses the site.

Jewish Claims to Jerusalem

• Jerusalem is the cradle of Jewish heritage and Jewish civilization. Ever since King David made Jerusalem the capital of Israel 3,000 years ago, the city has been at the center of Jewish existence. The last remaining wall of the Jewish Temple is the Western wall is in the old city of Jerusalem. The Western Wall and the city of Jerusalem itself is the most holy places of Judaism. Jerusalem is the focus of Jewish prayer. Three times a day Jews across the world face Jerusalem. For thousands of years Jews have prayed "To Jerusalem, thy city, shall we return with joy". For thousands of years Jews have concluded festivities with the words "next year… in Jerusalem."
• The Jewish connection to the Temple Mount dates back for more than 3,000 years. It is the site where Abraham tied his son to an alter as a sacrifice to G-d. It is the site of two Jewish temples that were the center of Jewish religious life, learning, and social life until the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans. The Mosques on the Temple Mount were built over 7 hundred years later after the Muslim occupation of the land.
• The fact that Jerusalem is disputed, or that it is claimed by others does not mean that the city belongs to them.

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• Jews have lived in Jerusalem for 2,000 continuously.
• Jews consist of the majority of Jerusalem in the present state of Israel constituting over 530,000 of the city's 758,000 population.
• Jews have been the largest group of inhabitants since the 1840s.
• Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab entity. It has never even been a provincial capital of under Muslim rule. It has never been a center of Muslim learning. Jerusalem has never been a cultural center of Islam.
• Jerusalem is pivotal to the Jews historically, culturally and spiritually. The attachment of Jews and Jerusalem is unmatched with any other nation and a holy city.

Now let us get back on topic.
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[lolwatever]

You forgot that the creation of Israel was decided by the whole world.
The whole UN voted:
The 33 countries that voted in favor of the partition, as set by UN resolution 181: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Belarus, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukraine, United States, USSR, Uruguay, Venezuela.
The 13 countries that voted against UN Resolution 181: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
The ten countries that abstained: Argentina, Chile, Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.
One state was absent: Thailand.
Following the adoption of the plan, Arab countries proposed to query the International Court of Justice on the competence of the General Assembly to partition a country against the wishes of the majority of its inhabitants (it would place 36% of the Arabs inside the Jewish state). This was narrowly defeated. [3]
Meeting in Cairo in November and December of 1947, the Arab League then adopted a series of resolutions aimed at a military solution to the conflict.

But then again we know how the military solution went... 8 arab countries against israel.... israel basically wiped the floor with them.

ofcourse it did... taht dont make it a just cause right :?

n as i sed.. general assembly carreis no weight... answer the other one... with all honesty.

 

[lolwatever]

Jerusalem and its Residents and Visitors.

• <LI class=maintext>As soon as Israel came in possession of Jerusalem it immediately abolished all discriminatory policies that were introduced under Jordanian rule. <LI class=maintext>Under Israeli law anyone who does anything that may violate freedom of access of members of various religions sacred to them may be punished by a prison term of five years. The Israeli government does its utmost to prevent provocation that might threaten the sanctity of all of Jerusalem's holy places. <LI class=maintext>Israel has entrusted the administration of holy places to their relevant representatives. For example, the Muslim Waqf is responsible for the Mosques on the Temple Mount. <LI class=maintext>Christians and Muslims across the world including Arab .......[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
  [*]Jerusalem is pivotal to the Jews historically, culturally and spiritually. The attachment of Jews and Jerusalem is unmatched with any other nation and a holy city.

Now let us get back on topic.
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:haha: wat a way 2 evade my question...
answer it ... one word is minimum requirement

 

[afriend]

Oooh How sweet of them.....and let them beat the hell outta them for the other 11 months...

But this is really nice of them...whoever they are. and we shud do the same in return.

Actually the group that is doing this have zionists in there ranks. To say that zionists are not involved in this charity project would be very naive. There is no hidden motive, Jews are commanded to help people, even non-Jews, and required to give 10% of our earnings as "tzedukah" or charity.

Oh wow...almost exactly the same as Islam, except it's 'Zakah'.

Maybe we should embrace eachother...we have too much in common

 

[lavikor201]

and imagine the whole world decided to rob ur house, u b happy boy?

The whole word did rob my house.

Jerusalem was robbed by Babylonians, Crusaders, Saladin, Mamalukes, Ottomans, and Jordanians.

I have now returned to my house.

Thats is my awnser care or not...

Now lets move back on topic, or discuss this somewhere else.

 

[lolwatever]

The whole word did rob my house.

Jerusalem was robbed by Babylonians, Crusaders, Saladin, Mamalukes, Ottomans, and Jordanians.

I have now returned to my house.

:? ur house was in germany/austria... how did u jump from there 2 palestine all of a sudden ffended: n then say das ur house?

 

[afriend]

Jerusalem is pivotal to the Jews historically, culturally and spiritually. The attachment of Jews and Jerusalem is unmatched with any other nation and a holy city.

You see my friend....it's stuff like this that stirs the S**T!!!

Whenever the ownership of land starts, that's when it goes all....Bad.

I was very happy today to see that, until I read that comment.