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Oh Okay i get you know.

If you have a host that allow copyright content like warez then they won't remove it even after they get complaint from the company.
 
Malaikah said:
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Did you actually ask a shaykh about this copyright stuff? I think you should before you share it around.
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Oh get over it, you telling me you never downloaded something copyright or illegal from the net, where do you get all your softwares and lectures :? Don't tell me you buy them all.
 
moabubaker said:
Oh Okay i get you know.

If you have a host that allow copyright content like warez then they won't remove it even after they get complaint from the company.
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Oh, i always though warez was illegal, so they are allowed to put up copyright material? are you sure?
 
moabubaker said:
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Oh get over it, you telling me you never downloaded something copyright or illegal from the net, where do you get all your softwares and lectures :? Don't tell me you buy them all.
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coming from the admin of a torrent site... :happy: ....you would say that:happy:
 
chuddy said:
Oh, i always though warez was illegal, so they are allowed to put up copyright material? are you sure?
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Well obviously it is illegal, but they get special hosts which allow them to put up copyright and illegal material. But it's never guaranteed, even the host could get in trouble and get shut down if there are too many complaints.

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chuddy said:
coming from the admin of a torrent site... :happy: ....you would say that:happy:
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No im not just talking about islamic stuff but all softwares in general, most people these days download from the net or P2P clients, there are only few that go out and buy them.
 
chuddy said:
oh, so how do you get them hosts
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Don't tell me you want to host a warez site ;D

As for me, i don't know anyone hosting warez sites, you need to have contacts which would provide you, its like the underworld business but on the Net. If you get reported you could get into deep trouble, even sentenced. :nervous:
 
chuddy said:
yh bro your right

who would by them when you can get them for free?
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No im not just saying this because it is easier to download, but if you see the softwares nowadays are really expensive, not everyone can afford to buy them. Like for eg. Photoshop and Illustrator costs like £200-300, just a small program could cost you £20-30.
 
yh i know what you meant :)

for example a converter

do you know 1. a program that converts from rm to mp3?
for free?
 
moabubaker said:
Oh get over it, you telling me you never downloaded something copyright or illegal from the net, where do you get all your softwares and lectures :? Don't tell me you buy them all.
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Actually I have stopped downloading lectures that are copyrighted when I found out that they are and that it was illegal to do so.

And it really doesn't matter what I do, Allah isn't going to ask you about me, he is going to ask about you.

You are going to be providing people with something haram, doesn't that mean their sin of downloading copyright stuff goes back to you? So much for doing it for the sack of Allah, if it isn't even halal!

That is, assuming of course, that you believe it is haram. If you don't, then I will just advice you to get this fatwa from someone respectable because i have honestly never heard the opinion that copyright is not valid in Islam, and I don't understand why so many students of knowledge would copy right their stuff if it was not allowed.
 
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Well we ain't doing something illegal, because copyright is downloading something illegally and selling it to make make money. For example i download a DVD, burn it to a disk, then go to a sunday market and set up my own stall and sell them. We are not selling them we just providing for other's to get educated.
 
moabubaker said:
Well we ain't doing something illegal, because copyright is downloading something illegally and selling it to make make money. For example i download a DVD, burn it to a disk, then go to a sunday market and set up my own stall and sell them. We are not selling them we just providing for other's to get educated.
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Oh, really? This is something I was not sure about- whether copyright is only if you make profit.

But where I live there have been commercials that say stuff like downloading films is stealing or something... and they made it seem like the person was downloading for free... hmm:-\

Also, if it where illegal only to make money form it, why would the brother have mentioned that he was tracked down by the companies and asked to remove the material? He wasn't selling... :?
 
i mentioned that because the company that produces the material track them down, because people are downloading their material rather than buying them.

For example. A while back Kalamullah.com used to have the Anwar Awlaki lectures, the life and works of Abu Bakr Sideeq (r.a) and The life of Umar Ibn Al Khattab (r.a).

But then they got removed, due to the publishers request.
And if you were to bu these lectures, they cost roughly £90 each, and the lives of the prophets cost about £120.

So some sites post these lectures not because they want to go against the law, but to provide the ummmah with good material. Because a lot of people cant afford that kind of material.

And besides, Should islamic material be copyrighted? thousands of muslims everyday are prevented from listening to good lectures because some businesses have made the price way out of their reach.

Is that really fair, do they have he right to copyright islamic material. we are not talking abot the laws of this world. We are talking about the laws of Allah (S.W.T.)
 
Some of these companies don't even have a copyright license, they just claim that it is copyrighted, what im going to do with my website is im not going to remove the material until i get good proof that this is licensed under copyright laws.
 
chuddy said:
And if you were to buy these lectures, they cost roughly £90 each, and the lives of the prophets cost about £120.
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these lecture do not cost £90 or £120, where i live i can buy them for around £35 to £45. Where are they selling these for £90 and £120?

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Salaam said:
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these lecture do not cost £90 or £120, where i live i can buy them for around £35 to £45. Where are they selling these for £90 and £120?

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£35 - £45 :muddlehea it's still expensive. I can buy 1-2 weeks food with that much.
 

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