Keep it up Turkey, you know what's best

[ISLAMASWEENEY]

Whatever Turkey Is The World Needs To Respect It.

 

[snakelegs]

i love secularism!
but turkey's brand of it seems more like a militant religion in its own right than what i understand as secularism.

 

[ISLAMASWEENEY]

Yes I Love Turkeys Powerful Military America Wont Invade Turkey Next Thats For Sure.

 

[snakelegs]

if the turks invade northern iraq, i am not sure what will happen.

 

[ISLAMASWEENEY]

I Dont Know But Turkey Need To Sort Out The Pkk I Went On Holiday When They Bombed Southern Turkey That Was Sick Iam Lucky To Be Alive.

 

[abdil han]

bt u shuldnt forget that minority bads govern us..no matter what muslims want, they launch the rules they want

salam bro,,
you are right but till when this minority will rule us?? of course n inshaAllah the real owners of this country will recapture of it ....

vassalam

 

[north_malaysian]

imams,in mosques, teach these kind of laws of islam n what are the punishments

at least you can learn about Hudud in Turkish mosques.... not in Malaysian mosques.:exhausted

 

[yigiter187]

Yes I Love Turkeys Powerful Military America Wont Invade Turkey Next Thats For Sure.

there is no power in world who can invade turkey...
if you dont believe us look,search gallipoli and canakkale wars...our weapons were our bodies...anzacs,italians,french,greeks,indians,russians,english,armenaians were all together against turkey but no victory occured for them....because turks have a really deep faith...love turkey from the deepest part of their hearts.....

 

[yigiter187]

if the turks invade northern iraq, i am not sure what will happen.

we wont invade ıraq,we only want to put an end to terrörist PKKİ SUPPORTED BY MANY COUNTRİES..(USA,GREECE ETC..)

 

[north_malaysian]

we wont invade ıraq,we only want to put an end to terrörist PKKİ SUPPORTED BY MANY COUNTRİES..(USA,GREECE ETC..)

Are those PKK members ... muslims?

 

[yigiter187]

do u mean what? sorry

 

[shev]

Are those PKK members ... muslims?

unfortunetly most of them yes..... why did u ask it for??

 

[yigiter187]

Zoroaster lovers 34%
jesus lovers 34%
THE RELİGİON OF MANİ 11%
AND LOVERS OF MOHAMMED 10%

THİS İS WHAT PKK TERRÖRİST BELİEVE..

 

[snakelegs]

we wont invade ıraq,we only want to put an end to terrörist PKKİ SUPPORTED BY MANY COUNTRİES..(USA,GREECE ETC..)

i am too ignorant on this to have an opinion. i only know that turkey has been threatening an invasion of northern iraq.

just came across this:


PKK warns Iraq, Turkey against crackdown
By Agence France Presse (AFP)
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=84509
Tuesday, August 14, 2007


IRBIL, Iraq: The Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) on Monday warned Iraq and Turkey against launching any crackdown on the separatist movement after both countries agreed to end its safe haven on the frontier. "The Iraqi government should not interfere in the conflict between us and Turkey," spokesman Abdel-Rahman Chadarchi told AFP by telephone from the Qandil Mountains on the Iraq-Iran border. "If they plan to strike at the PKK politically or militarily, Iraq and Turkey will pay the price and the crises in Iraq and Turkey will deepen," he added without elaborating. Chadarchi denied that his party received military aid from either Iraqi Kurds or the US. On August 7 Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan signed a document of cooperation to end the safe haven that separatist Turkish Kurd rebels enjoy in Kurdish-run northern Iraq. "We said [in the memorandum of understanding] that we will cooperate against terrorist organizations, notably the PKK," Maliki said in Ankara. Turkey has threatened cross-border strikes at PKK bases in neighboring northern Iraq if Baghdad and Washington fail to curb the rebels. - AFP

 

[yigiter187]

is there a country called kurdistan? no of course
so no need to read ur post..

 

[snakelegs]

ok. as i said - i am too uninformed to have an opinion....
eace:

 

[KAding]

Turkey's Gul vows secular agenda
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul has pledged to protect and strengthen the country's secular principles if he succeeds in a fresh presidential bid.

The former Islamist sparked huge controversy and protests in a failed bid for the post earlier this year.

Critics, including the army, feared an erosion of secular values despite Mr Gul's reassurances to the contrary.

Mr Gul's AK Party dominates the Turkish parliament, which chooses the president in a run of votes starting on Monday.

"Protection of secularism is one of my basic principles," Mr Gul told a news conference on Tuesday after submitting his application to parliament.

"Nobody should worry about this."

Mr Gul said Turkey was a "democratic, secular and social state based on the rule of law", and he vowed to protect and strengthen these principles as his first priority.

The BBC's Sarah Rainsford in Istanbul says Mr Gul's comments were a clear attempt to reassure those who see him as a threat to the system.

Mr Gul's previous presidential bid triggered protests in May because of his Islamist roots.

Opponents dislike the fact that his wife wears the Muslim headscarf, which is banned in state institutions.

The failure of the bid led to an early general election, in which Mr Gul's party won a convincing victory.

Parliamentary support

Mr Gul has been meeting opposition party leaders in an attempt to gather support for his fresh bid.

One of the main opposition parties, the MHP, has previously said it would not boycott the latest election, a move likely to ensure a quorum of two-thirds of MPs.

Mr Gul's previous bid for the presidency failed because opposition parties boycotted the two votes in April and May.

In the first and second round of voting a candidate must win a two-thirds majority to be elected - 367 votes out of the total of 550 deputies.

The AKP does not have 367 deputies sitting in parliament.

But in the third and fourth round only an absolute majority of 276 is required.

The governing party has 341 MPs, so the AKP's candidate would be highly likely to win any contest in a third or fourth round.

The largest opposition party, the secular centre-left Republican People's Party (CHP), has stated its continued opposition to Mr Gul's candidacy.

"Gul is a conscious member of an ideological circle," CHP leader Deniz Baykal told CNN Turk television.

"Turkey would become a country in which the political balances were changing very fast, in which the Middle East identity would become more pronounced."

The job of president is largely ceremonial, but the incumbent has the power to veto legislative bills and government appointments.

The current president, Ahmet Necdet Sezer, often frustrated the government by blocking its initiatives.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6946269.stm

Published: 2007/08/14 15:04:24 GMT

© BBC MMVII

So. Is he lying in an attempt to get elected? Or does he believe in a secular Turkey, at least politically? I'd say the latter, though he no doubt wants to tame some of the extreme-secularist laws.

 

[yigiter187]

of course he is not lying.it may be a strategy to get votes from all parts of parliement...eventual aim is of coursa to abolish haijab ban,and make secularism less effective in turkey..

 

[*babk*]

Abdullah Gül is a clever politician. He will do his best not to take a big reaction while he is trying to abolish the bans which humiliate muslim people.

 

[snakelegs]

of course he is not lying.it may be a strategy to get votes from all parts of parliement...eventual aim is of coursa to abolish haijab ban,and make secularism less effective in turkey..

i think the hijab ban should be abolished. forbidding women to wear hijab in a muslim country has nothing to do with any rational version of secularism and is absurd.
again, turkey's version of secularism is almost a religion in itself.
i think anyone who believes in human rights would have to agree that women should be free to wear hijab.