Kim Jong-il is dead

[Banu_Hashim]

One should never attack the character of a man that one does not know nor degrade a leader one has never been led by nor should one call the people brainwashed when one has never met, lived with nor spoken to such people.

Making such statements are clearly narrow minded and in itself come from being brainwashed by the media.

Does anyone know George Bush on a personal level, and need to have been led by him to know his motives? I shan't reply again as clearly this is discussion is not beneficial or conducive to any positive outcome. I appreciate your comments and will take them on board. Barakallaahu feek. :wa:

 

[GuestFellow]

Salaam,

Good riddance. He's insane. Not all North Koreans support him. Some North Koreans managed to escape and flee to South Korea. There is a documentary on YouTube about North Korea. It is as though the citizens are expected to worship their leader and are taught to do so from a very young age. I would go bonkers living in that country.

 

[Ramadhan]

I would go bonkers living in that country.

Probably not if you had been born there and lived your life. You wouldn't have any idea what life is like outside your country.
You even might have thought that North Korea was the only paradise on earth and that living in other countries were miserable.

I give you an example of much less scale:
I was born and lived all my younger life when Soeharto was the strongman president of Indonesia (he ruled Indonesia for 30 years) and I would never have had the wildest imagination that he and his family was going to get replaced with the sort of democracy that we have now so soon. I was so very proud of my country and thought living in Indonesia was the best anyone can do (until I went to study in Australia at 17 lol), which in many ways true don't get me wrong. But most of those kind of thinking we got from all kinds of indoctrinations, be it in school or through media which all were controlled by the government.
In fact, there was some sort of indoctrination and brain wash on a much less scale that Indonesians were led to believe that Soeharto was magically powerful that anyone would have been crushed if they would have dared to stand up to him.

Anyway, let this be lesson to future leaders who aspire to be modern day fir'auns: their power last very short time, and they will die.
And this proves that Al Qur'an always remain relevant.

 

[syed1]

 

[GuestFellow]

Probably not if you had been born there and lived your life. You wouldn't have any idea what life is like outside your country.
You even might have thought that North Korea was the only paradise on earth and that living in other countries were miserable.

Salaam,

I'm aware of that. What I meant is to visit North Korea and stay there. There have been a few people that visited North Korea, some were undercover journalists.

 

[Ghazalah]

It wouldn't surprise me if they idolised his grave.

 

[IslamicRevival]

Madness..but its no different to when Princess Diana or Micheal Jackson passed away.
Two great personalities in many peoples eyes and maybe the Korean people thought the same of their now deceased leader

 

[GuestFellow]

Some of them could just be acting and forced to cry. I highly doubt everyone was actually sad to see him gone.

 

[attica]

Because of Kim blocking outside influence in his country, it had a terrible famine in which between 900,000 and 3.5 million people out of a population of 22 million died. So up to almost 15% of the population.
I'd say that's pretty bad and enough reason to conclude that he wasn't a very good leader. Talking to a South Korean recently, he told me there is still is terrible famine up there. While this famine was going on, Kim used money that could have been used to help his people on developing nuclear weapons, in order to scare the West off intervening. The West would never intervene anyway, because they are scared of the Chinese reaction to such an invasion, so all he has done is punish his own people.
On the positive side, apparently his favourite movie is "Rambo: First Blood" which, while not being a masterpiece, is certainly superior to the Rambo sequels.

 

[marwen]

Some of them could just be acting and forced to cry. I highly doubt everyone was actually sad to see him gone.

I agree. Honestly I can't believe that. People crying for a president ! whatever he was/
Besides it seems like a fabricated scene, reported by the national news agency of north korea (KCNA).
They seem mainly like a bunch of teens in uniforms (school students I guess) collected in that little place. More like a political message to be sent to enemies, than anything else.