Kinds of Tawassul

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Hmmm, OK so the reason given is:

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And I've read more evidence on Tawassul of this form being allowed. Allahu A'lam, I believe it's permitted that's all, since there's too much evidence to say otherwise.

Wassalam.

Exactly my thoughts bro. Jazaak Allaah Khayr!

 

[Re.TiReD]

This thread is soo gunna be closed and you know....everybody will come with their own daleel and I'll still be confused, and for everybody reading this....my MSN aint workin :-[

 

[chacha_jalebi]

*jumps up and down* about time in Li we had a serious discussion, woo hoo may we keep it up

the blind man asked the Prophet (saw) and the Prophet (saw) was alive which is okily

the second one, is news to my ears lol, ive heard it 1st time, but narrated by al baihaqi and haythami, compared to sahih bukhari, i would choose bukhari because of the more stronger narrations, this is one problem i have seen, like the narrations which confirm it, are from hadiths which are not in the sihah sutta, and then someone like sheikh al albani (rahimallah talaa) would have analysed the hadiths, and said its weak, and then if you say its weak you get called many a names like w_h_b_i or salafi and if you dont accept sheikh al albanis stuff, you will be called a sufi or brelvi, so its them topics which lead to a dispute innay, i dont think we will solve it, when scholars have been arguin on it for time

 

[Z-Blade]

This thread is soo gunna be closed and you know....everybody will come with their own daleel and I'll still be confused, and for everybody reading this....my MSN aint workin :-[

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Just read my posts please in this thread, inshaAllah that'll help you understand ukhti :'). Can you deny the words of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)? No, I cannot, and that is why I'd rather take what he (salallahu alaihi wasallam) said rather than what some scholar said without any daleel. You may not accept it at first... but then we don't always accept/understand things at first, like polygyny etc. maybe... but Allah knows best and we accept His rulings and commands.

Anyway as I said this is a minor issue and I don't really care about it, but let's not go calling things haram when Allah has allowed it...

Wassalam.

 

[Re.TiReD]

Is it tru that none of the companions supplicated to Allah using the prophets status as a means of tawwasul?

Ibn Taymiyah- they understud that a created being can only benefit another by means of his suplication or means of help while alive. Allah loves that we seek nearness to Him by means of believing, righteous actions, sending salaah n salaam upon His prophet, loving him, obeying him n allying ourselves wit him. these are the things Allah loves us to seek nearnessto Him by means of.

 

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^ We've had plenty of discussion and fights over this topic, just use the search facility.

Bottom Line: Each to their own risk.

 

[Z-Blade]

*jumps up and down* about time in Li we had a serious discussion, woo hoo may we keep it up

the blind man asked the Prophet (saw) and the Prophet (saw) was alive which is okily

the second one, is news to my ears lol, ive heard it 1st time, but narrated by al baihaqi and haythami, compared to sahih bukhari, i would choose bukhari because of the more stronger narrations, this is one problem i have seen, like the narrations which confirm it, are from hadiths which are not in the sihah sutta, and then someone like sheikh al albani (rahimallah talaa) would have analysed the hadiths, and said its weak, and then if you say its weak you get called many a names like w_h_b_i or salafi and if you dont accept sheikh al albanis stuff, you will be called a sufi or brelvi, so its them topics which lead to a dispute innay, i dont think we will solve it, when scholars have been arguin on it for time

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Yeah bro the problem is here:

This is an explicit, unequivocal text from a prophetic Companion proving the legal validity of tawassul through the dead. The account has been classified as rigorously authenticated (SAHIH) by Baihaqi, Mundhiri, and Haythami."

It has been authenticated by Classical scholars, I'd say Shaykh Albani (RA) got it wrong if he tries to call it weak when great scholars like them said they are authentic .

Wassalam.

 

[chacha_jalebi]

read al aqida as wastiyyah by sheikh ibn taymiyyah! it sorts out everythin

and one more quote, from ibn taymiyyah "askin a man who is dead, is like your drownin and your askin another drownin man for help"

strong! but true

thread can be closed now lol i wana be last poster pleeese

 

[chacha_jalebi]

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Yeah bro the problem is here:

This is an explicit, unequivocal text from a prophetic Companion proving the legal validity of tawassul through the dead. The account has been classified as rigorously authenticated (SAHIH) by Baihaqi, Mundhiri, and Haythami."

It has been authenticated by Classical scholars, I'd say Shaykh Albani (RA) got it wrong if he tries to call it weak when great scholars like them said they are authentic .

Wassalam.

lol im not sayin any scholar got it wrong, Allah hu alim

thread should be closed now, no more postin