Kissing the Quran

[IbnAbdulHakim]

lets close this thread, it was nice while it lasted eh

 

[ummAbdillah]

:salamext:

May Allah forgive our weaknesses and grant us strength in Faith. Ameen.

Ameen

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^Well I remember I dropped the Quran by mistake when I was little, Astaghfirullah. My mom yelled at me and told me to kiss it. Is that ok to do or what? I mean I wouldnt know what to do except kiss it or say Astaghfirullah.

 

[islamirama]

Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee is one of the very prominent scholars and very well respected for his vast knoweldge. Prophet *S* said the inheirtors of the prophets are the scholars, And he also said to seek knowledge from the learned men (scholars,alims,imam,etc).

Allah say's in the Quran, today i profected your deen and choosen Islam for you. In another verse He says, you have no say in a matter that has already been decided by Allah and His Messenger.

Lot of Muslims have their cultural baggage that may or may not agree with Islam. Lot of bidah is in those cultures and things that go against islam. If the this great scholar says its bidah then it is bidah. There is no point crying about it and whining or making excuses. A true believer does not make excuses for his actions but rather abandons that which is not part of Islam after he comes to learn about it.

Kissing the quran is bidah as is mawlid un nabi among other culturally invented practices. Many Muslims don't even read the Quran do or pray sallah but they'll kiss the Quran when they touch it once ina blue moon or are quick to celebrate mawlid.

Bottom line, haraam is haraam regardless of what excuses people bring.

 

[Al-Zaara]

We just discussed that sister Jazzy. :skeleton:

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

But I didnt come across anything about dropping it. My bad if it was answered! lol

 

[HBot 5000]

Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee is one of the very prominent scholars and very well respected for his vast knoweldge. Prophet *S* said the inheirtors of the prophets are the scholars, And he also said to seek knowledge from the learned men (scholars,alims,imam,etc).

Allah say's in the Quran, today i profected your deen and choosen Islam for you. In another verse He says, you have no say in a matter that has already been decided by Allah and His Messenger.

Lot of Muslims have their cultural baggage that may or may not agree with Islam. Lot of bidah is in those cultures and things that go against islam. If the this great scholar says its bidah then it is bidah. There is no point crying about it and whining or making excuses. A true believer does not make excuses for his actions but rather abandons that which is not part of Islam after he comes to learn about it.

Kissing the quran is bidah as is mawlid un nabi among other culturally invented practices. Many Muslims don't even read the Quran do or pray sallah but they'll kiss the Quran when they touch it once ina blue moon or are quick to celebrate mawlid.

Bottom line, haraam is haraam regardless of what excuses people bring.

Agreed! :thumbs_up

 

[chacha_jalebi]

No no, it wasn't directed to you. Of course you're free to hold your opinion, brother. But mashaAllah, you are right, we get into some petty issues subhanAllah, while bigger issues are remained unsolved.

May Allah forgive our weaknesses and grant us strength in Faith. Ameen.

i dint mean you sista me was talkin to hakim bro

 

[abs]

hu knows it might be tru it might not be

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i dint mean you sista me was talkin to hakim bro

not hakim ya akhee, im 'abd of al-hakim, ! !

 

[3ARABY_2005]

OMG..i didn't know that..!!!

Jazakumullah khair

 

[Snowflake]

There's nothing wrong with kissing the Quran out of love. Huh! I can't help kissing my Quran after reciting it. I feel love, respect and gratitude to Allah subhana wa ta'ala for giving me such a miracle. It's a spontaneous reaction and one I'm not to put the reigns on.

But... it might be different if people kiss the Quran thinking there's reward for it, while they don't obey Allah's commands. So, at the end of the day it's the intention that counts.

 

[islamirama]

There's nothing wrong with kissing the Quran out of love. Huh! I can't help kissing my Quran after reciting it. I feel love, respect and gratitude to Allah subhana wa ta'ala for giving me such a miracle. It's a spontaneous reaction and one I'm not to put the reigns on.

But... it might be different if people kiss the Quran thinking there's reward for it, while they don't obey Allah's commands. So, at the end of the day it's the intention that counts.

Tell me if you have done any alim course? BS in lslamic studies, masters, ph.d? how many yrs have you studied islam under a teacher? By what criteria and qualifications are you passing the ruling "there's nothing wrong kissing the quran"?

We should be careful to pass such statements as prophet saws said one who likes to issue fatwa readily can find his seat in hellfire. It would be safer to say "in my opinion....." rather then a direct statement like that, then the reader may think that rather then your belief and opinion that statement is a fact.

Lastly, scholars have given us ruling based on the years of their studing and the status Allah has given them for devoting their lives to deen. It is ignorant of us to go against such rulings thinking we know better. If there's a difference of opinion among scholars then we can follow the one we think is most right, otherwise to continue insisting something is "ok" becuase one beliefs so is like saying "we believe this becuase our forefathers believed in it"

One thing you are right about sis. Intentions do play a very major role as well. We will be rewarded and punished according to what our intentions are for the actions we take.

 

[Snowflake]

O.K. I'll rephrase that. In my view, there's nothing wrong with kissing the Quran. If I found a piece of paper with Allah's kalam on it, I'd kiss that too. How is expressing personal love for the Quran an act of biddah? It's not as if those doing it, consider it necessary. As far as I know, it is only wrong when we believe something is a necessity when there is no evidence to suggest otherwise?

I'll tell you something else bro. You know the feeling a believer gets when he/she recites the Quran. I mean we are reading Allah's Word which He is saying to us. It's feel awesome doesn't it? Well, that feeling makes me kiss the Quran and hold it to my heart. Do you truly believe (regardless of fatwas) that expressing love like so, for the Book that contains Allah's Word is biddah?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Just think of it this way:

If there was any blessing in kissing the Qur'an, the Salaf would have rushed to it. The Prophet (SAW) professed that he conveyed the deen. Are we correcting him in this matter?

The issue of bid'ah hasanah was refuted here.

lets close this thread, it was nice while it lasted eh

Better to close it before it turns in to a big fiqh discussion

:threadclo