Kung fu

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Kung Fu, simply means "Supreme Skill"... a chef knows kung fu, a basket weaver knows kung fu, a road sweeper knows kung fu - it's all about practice.

Supreme Skill - has to be worked for.

That's quite simply the ethos behind Kung Fu

Scimi
 
Scimitar said:
Kung Fu, simply means "Supreme Skill"... a chef knows kung fu, a basket weaver knows kung fu, a road sweeper knows kung fu - it's all about practice.

Supreme Skill - has to be worked for.

That's quite simply the ethos behind Kung Fu

Scimi
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but can you do it
 
Kiro said:
but can you do it
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You ask me to teach you, then you ask me if I can even do it :D

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Scimi
 
Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم and the Sahaabah used to wrestle. So, if you can learn any style that focuses on wrestling and grappling is good to learn, In Shaa Allaah.
 
Kiro said:
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Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
It is basically old school Judo, with the focus on ne wasa/ ground technique.
It is very practical.
As most fights end up on the ground.

A fellow called Royce Gracie made it mostly famous, as he was a small guy that beat bigger men in no holds barred fights.

The Gracies have their own style, mostly focused on practical self defense.

If you are interested, you should look up Damian Maia.
He is getting close to fight for the belt in the UFC, and he really does not rely on striking.
It is weird watching how much he dominates great fighters.
Werdum is another one.
 
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Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم and the Sahaabah used to wrestle. So, if you can learn any style that focuses on wrestling and grappling is good to learn, In Shaa Allaah.
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Did Umar Ibn Khattab and The Prophet :saws1: ever wrestle against each other...?
 
Kiro said:
Did Umar Ibn Khattab and The Prophet :saws1: ever wrestle against each other...?
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No. As far as I know, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم only wrestled with one Sahaabi, and that was Rukaanah ibn `Abd Yazeed. And at the time, Rukaanah wasn't yet a Muslim. Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم defeated him, and that caused him to accept Islaam, because prior to that, Rukaanah was the undefeated champion wrestler of the Arabs.
 
Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
No. As far as I know, Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم only wrestled with one Sahaabi, and that was Rukaanah ibn `Abd Yazeed. And at the time, Rukaanah wasn't yet a Muslim. Rasoolullaah صلى الله عليه وسلم defeated him, and that caused him to accept Islaam, because prior to that, Rukaanah was the undefeated champion wrestler of the Arabs.
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Did martial arts exist at the time of Sahaaba?

Also, why do we say the Arabic word when referring to the companions...
 
Kiro said:
Did martial arts exist at the time of Sahaaba?

Also, why do we say the Arabic word when referring to the companions...
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1) It existed, but not in the Arabian Peninsula (Jazeeratul `Arab). It existed in China long before then.

2) Because Arabic words have no true English equivalent. Arabic words cannot truly be translated verbatim into English; they have to be explained. A single word in Arabic can have a page long explanation, but the English translation would be a single word. Thus, all of the meaning is missed out. Take for example those who translate "Rabb" as "Lord". What does "Lord" mean? "One who has some authority over others." "Some authority." Even regular people were called "Lords" in the old days. But what does Rabb mean? Some of what it means is:


  1. Al-Maalik: The Absolute Owner.
  2. As-Sayyid: The Master. The One Who has complete authority. No one has absolute authority of anything except Allaah Ta`aalaa. You do not have absolute authority over even your house, your car, your firearm, or anything else. Absolute authority means you can do with it as you want. Can you do what you want to with your gun? You can't. There are laws. Laws that apply to your house, to your car, to your money and to everything else. The government has a say and partial ownership in all of those things. They will tell you what you can do with your car and what you can't. Where you can ride and where you can't. But Allaah Ta`aalaa is the Creator and He has absolute authority over everything that He has created. He can and does whatever He wants with His creation. No one can object to Allaah Ta`aalaa. No one has a say in the Decree of Allaah Ta`aalaa. This is "Complete Authority". So Allaah Ta`aalaa is The Owner and He has Absolute Authority over everything that He owns.
  3. Al-Murabbee: The One Who does Tarbiyah. Murabbee is from "Rabbaa - Yurabbee - Tarbiyatan", and it means to look after something until it reaches the stage you want it to reach. Allaah Ta`aalaa is the One Who has always looked after us and taken care of us.
  4. Al-Murshid: The One Who guides.
  5. Al-Mun`im: The One Who bestows favours. The One Who grants "Ni`mah". Ni`mah is a favour or gift you grant to someone despite not owing them anything.
  6. Al-Qayyim: The One Who takes care (of something). This word implies that if you were to not take care of this particular thing, it would die. Like a flower, for example. The farmer (or whoever is looking after the flower) takes care of it regularly. Should he stop doing so for even one day (with some flowers), it will die. Allaah Ta`aalaa is "Al-Qayyim". He takes care of the entire creation. If Allaah Ta`aalaa were to not take care of them, they would die. They would no longer exist. Their existence is dependent on Allaah Ta`aalaa.

All of these words are implied by the word "Rabb". So can you ever substitute the word "Rabb" for the word "Lord"? Never ever.

The purpose of translation is to take the message that is being conveyed in one particular language and convey it (that same message) in another language. Is the message of "Rabb" being conveyed in the word "Lord"? No it is not. That is the reason why we prefer to use the Arabic words such as Rabb, Imaan, Deen, Sahaabah, Malaa'ikah, Jinn, etc. rather than what people refer to as "their English equivalents". That's because these words do not have English equivalents. The English language is wholly incapable to conveying the meaning those words convey. That is why we explain certain words rather than translate them.

Waadhih? (Is it clear?)

Na`am.
 
Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
1) It existed, but not in the Arabian Peninsula (Jazeeratul `Arab).
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Each nation throughout known history practiced "martial art" - for the Arabs, it was wrestling.

it is interesting how throughout history, martial arts was usually confined to the military.

Scimi
 
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Each nation throughout known history practiced "martial art" - for the Arabs, it was wrestling.
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That's true. Wrestling also falls under martial arts. When a lot people think about martial arts, though, they're thinking about the fighting styles of China and Japan. I think that's what Kiro was referring to as well.
 
Yes, a shame really... traditional Chinese MA is based off Kalaripayattu, an Indian form of Military Spec Martial Art from ancient times.

Some of the weapons they developed, were menacing.

Scimi
 
Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
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Waadhih? (Is it clear?)

Na`am.
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Aycha

Scimitar said:
Yes, a shame really... traditional Chinese MA is based off Kalaripayattu, an Indian form of Military Spec Martial Art from ancient times.

Some of the weapons they developed, were menacing.

Scimi
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You starting to sound like those uncles that sit on a table and talk about politics

maybe I should prepare you some tea
 

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