Law in Islamic world - and its affects on outsiders

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Skye Ephémérine said:
what is the alternative to world religion in your book?
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there are thousands of religions throughout the world and one is free to choose any of them ; but i was trying to say that most of them have an element of compassion for the less fortunate as part of their belief system.

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# Christianity: 2.1 billion
# Islam: 1.5 billion
# Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
# Hinduism: 900 million
# Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
# Buddhism: 376 million
# primal-indigenous: 300 million
# African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
# Sikhism: 23 million
# Juche: 19 million
# Spiritism: 15 million
# Judaism: 14 million
# Baha'i: 7 million
# Jainism: 4.2 million
# Shinto: 4 million
# Cao Dai: 4 million
# Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
# Tenrikyo: 2 million
# Neo-Paganism: 1 million
# Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
# Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
# Scientology: 500 thousand
 
barrio79 said:
There are a few people around the world who wish others would have obeyed the laws of the country that they were in at the time of some of the weird happenings of recent years; like leaving the trains alone in London or Madrid , or the odd building in Pakistan or New york...

aahh compassion compassion if only their mothers had time to teach them compassion for their fellow man
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Ah! I wonder if these students of shaikh google, still have any doubts about your intentions here (i.e anyone Muslim does wrong or is accused of doing wrong the whole of Islaam should be punished)

I bet you are enjoying yourself

Peace!

refutations forum was supposed to be closed for the duration of Ramzaan but they, ever so graciously, allow you to turn general chat in to one
 
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Barrio you seem to be on a Crusade where you ignore everything we say except what suits your agenda.

Your mind is made up and you are not willing to listen...

"Compassion.. compassion" Of course what happened was terrible (if there is any truth behind it) but what do you want us to do??? Or better still what have you done to help her? :?

Or are you here to get an apology from all Muslims for the Ignorance of some random person/persons in some corner of the world? :?:?:?

Think before you make accusations. You seem to have no knowledge of Islam and its teachings so please refrain from making ridiculous accusations.
 
barrio79 said:
there are thousands of religions throughout the world and one is free to choose any of them ; but i was trying to say that most of them have an element of compassion for the less fortunate as part of their belief system.

..
# Christianity: 2.1 billion
# Islam: 1.5 billion
# Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
# Hinduism: 900 million
# Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
# Buddhism: 376 million
# primal-indigenous: 300 million
# African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
# Sikhism: 23 million
# Juche: 19 million
# Spiritism: 15 million
# Judaism: 14 million
# Baha'i: 7 million
# Jainism: 4.2 million
# Shinto: 4 million
# Cao Dai: 4 million
# Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
# Tenrikyo: 2 million
# Neo-Paganism: 1 million
# Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
# Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
# Scientology: 500 thousand
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fascinating indeed except this was your earlier quote

barrio79 said:
The above comment was not meant to be insulting but rather a reinforcement of a catchcry that is common to most of the religions of the world ...
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what am I to deduce? that you are able to search on google for world religions, where just a few posts ago, even if memory fails you, you were complaining of the 'catchcry' which is common amongst them?
Even if your hippocampus fails you, you can use your mighty googling finger to scroll back to what you wrote earlier .. no?

cheers
 
doorster said:
Ah! I wonder if these students of shaikh google, still have any doubts about your intentions here (i.e anyone Muslim does wrong or is accused of doing wrong the whole of Islaam should be punished)

I bet you are enjoying yourself

Peace!

refutations forum was supposed to be closed for the duration of Ramzaan but they, ever so graciously, allow you to turn general chat in to one
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:sl:
sadly he isn't even skilled at what he does, I'd have respect for a proponent with some common sense... but missing here and dwindling even still with each of his successive posts..

:w:
 
Amongst my posts I said :-
“1.The above comment was not meant to be insulting but rather a reinforcement of a catchcry that is common to most of the religions of the world ...”

“2.there are thousands of religions throughout the world and one is free to choose any of them ; but i was trying to say that most of them have an element of compassion for the less fortunate as part of their belief system.”

These two comments are not mutually exclusive but rather they are both positive comments on the fact that the majority religions have compassion listed high on their lists of dogma, which I thought was a good thing. Whereas a lot of responders seemed to be saying that wasting compassion on a women who seems to have committed a misdemeanor is a gross waste of oxygen and I thought that was unusual. Also the reason I only listed a short list of umbrella religious groupings was the fact that to list each and every religion known to man would have taken considerable space and be a monumental task seeing that there are so many many thouasands

But I can handle the sledging..
 
barrio79 said:
Amongst my posts I said :-
“1.The above comment was not meant to be insulting but rather a reinforcement of a catchcry that is common to most of the religions of the world ...”

“2.there are thousands of religions throughout the world and one is free to choose any of them ; but i was trying to say that most of them have an element of compassion for the less fortunate as part of their belief system.”

These two comments are not mutually exclusive but rather they are both positive comments on the fact that the majority religions have compassion listed high on their lists of dogma, which I thought was a good thing. Whereas a lot of responders seemed to be saying that wasting compassion on a women who seems to have committed a misdemeanor is a gross waste of oxygen and I thought that was unusual. Also the reason I only listed a short list of umbrella religious groupings was the fact that to list each and every religion known to man would have taken considerable space and be a monumental task seeing that there are so many many thouasands

But I can handle the sledging..
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the statements in fact contradict each other.. anyone with elementary level understanding of English can decipher what was meant by your first, and the watering it down by the latter..
be that as it may, listing religions, whether monumental or minuscule, doesn't address each individual dogma.. it just tallies up the count.. it would be more appropriate, say you were trying to establish a study on world dominant religion vs. those falling out of favor. Not whether or not they demand compassion as a basic tenet.

And lastly.. the responses here don't echo whether or not we lack compassion, rather echo incredulity.. There are many unanswered questions which we have posed you on the previous page

for instant why she is being arrested for such a minor offense? or rather I should say repeatedly threatened of arrest with it never actually taking place
2-why her husband is divorcing her, when he if any of us at all should be her champion considering he is also a fellow aussie?
3- certainly not the least of this bunch but another biggie, why their divorce is so acrimonious that he is seeking custody of the kids?..

the story dear member is clearly one sided-- who knows maybe she really is a poor woman being divorced, losing her kids and threatened with arrest for having an exposed face.. if you believe that to be absolute truth, I have a stack of three dollar bills here I'd love to sell you


cheers
 
Right from the very topic starter, I knew how the thread would evolve. Comments like that of the Darrio were kinda predictible. So many questions raised and lesser answers given. Islam is LIFE. If one doesn't live it, how can one understand it? To those who jump on easy conclusions, I say "Hey guys, slow down. The Islamic law is fairness and justice in itself. Don't judge upon your own criteria. Never extrapolate it from its context. Open up your mind and accept the fact that you might be wrong."
 
Well I'm a firm beleiver in abiding by the countrys laws that your in at the time.
Perhaps the lady if she did venture out with her hair exposed should petition through Saudi Arabias many resident christian pressure groups to get the King to change the laws specifically for christians, in a similar way that Islamic law courts are opening up in the UK? Quite a simple matter I'm sure.
 
indeed, except the alleged offense here is exposure of her face

here is a pic of non-saudi women in Saudi Arabia..
**gasps** sandals and face exposure-- and the nerve to pose for picture in a mall in broad day light.. and adorn themselves with a smile? when arrest should be imminent

saudi-arabia49.jpg


http://images.google.com/imgres?img...images?q=women+in+jeddah&gbv=2&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
 
the statements in fact contradict each other.. anyone with elementary level understanding of English can decipher what was meant by your first, and the watering it down by the latter

i guess we will just have to agree that we have different understanding of the english language perhaps my english teacher was not up to the mark..
 
Noun

Singular
catchcry


for those who distrust google here is one definition therefrom...

catchcry (plural catchcries)

1. A slogan, particularly one intended for mass repetition.
 
Yeah.. except it wasn't the single noun oh learned one, but the statement as a whole..

care to defend your original article now that we've all learned how picture can speak a thousand words?

Perhaps the liberal civilized west can do what it does best and silence any voice of dissent that disagrees with its non-existing values.. starting with the spectacle that is 'freedom of speech', or rather I should say freedom to parrot one type of speech!

cheers
 

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