Lessons in hate found at leading mosques in UK

[InToTheRain]

except for the fact that they have their unique interpretations but I cant expand on their views on a site such as this where Islam hating troll will be allowed may be even encouraged to pick one line out of context then run with it!

LOL, I see PM the details Insha'Allah. Jazak Allah.

 

[جوري]

Greetings,


I can spell 'hypocrisy'. I can also spell the word 'too'. Whether I am too good to be true is a matter of opinion. Thank you for bringing the question to public attention, though.

Good for you, can you as equally pick up on rhetoric?

I'm not familiar with Mr Pipes, whoever he may be, but if he's inciting religious hatred, as you've suggested, then I would condemn him.

I haven't seen condemnation by your person, of anything other than toward Muslims.. or have I missed something in the title? 'Lessons in hate found at leading mosques in UK' Maybe you just enjoy selective reading, oh leader of the pack?

When have you ever tried to maintain decorum? You are without question the rudest person on this site by some distance.

lol... Did I hurt your feelers? or can you not just take as equally harsh and abusive criticism, the likes which you dispense here daily?

Thank you for that. Other than the insults, I can't actually make out any real point or argument there.

Then don't participate here! You are bound to hear something you are not going to like!

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

I haven't seen condemnation by your person, of anything other than toward Muslims..

I can't count the number of times I've denounced violence and Islamophobia on this forum.

or have I missed something in the title? 'Lessons in hate found at leading mosques in UK' Maybe you just enjoy selective reading, oh leader of the pack?

The only part of the title that can be attributed to me was 'in UK', just to make the topic of the thread clear. The title 'Lessons in hate found at leading mosques' was made up by the Times' journalist.

I simply posted the article to find out what the reaction would be. I know that the hatred referred to by the article is not a part of mainstream Islam, but there are, it seems, many who don't. That is a problem for the Muslim community, and therefore all of us, wouldn't you agree?

lol... Did I hurt your feelers?

Just look at the state of me: :'(

or can you not just take as equally harsh and abusive criticism, the likes which you dispense here daily?

I can certainly take criticism, I just don't think there's any need for rudeness.

You're the first person on the forum to accuse me of being 'harsh and abusive'. That's not my intention, and I'm sorry you feel that way. If the mods feel the same way I'd like them to let me know at their first opportunity.

Then don't participate here! You are bound to hear something you are not going to like!

Stop participating? Because of one person who has a grudge against me? Sorry.

I'd like to apologise to everyone for scarring this thread with what's beginning to smell dangerously like beef. The mods will probably chuck these posts pretty soon. Sorry guys.

Peace

 

[aamirsaab]

I think it is crystal clear that society actually doesn't know the true meaning of freedom of speech. As PA rightfully said: ''Face it, it is freedom of speech only when you are inciting anti-Islamic sentiment. Everything else simply crosses the limits.''
This is certainly how the majority of muslims feel and even though people may grow tire of it being said, it still does not negate the statement.

There is indeed a huge double standard in the west, but I will and always will abide by the system, in full knowledge of the numerous double standards, since Islam tells us that we should follow the laws of the land that we live in. In other words: I'll abide by the rules/laws but it doesn't mean I like them or that I agree with them

This is how people should use their freedom of speech; on thought-provoking, meaningful and intellectual communication as opposed to BS.

 

[جوري]

Greetings,

I can't count the number of times I've denounced violence and Islamophobia on this forum.

I am not sure your intention then with this article?

The only part of the title that can be attributed to me was 'in UK', just to make the topic of the thread clear. The title 'Lessons in hate found at leading mosques' was made up by the Times' journalist.

From which I am to deduce?-- how Muslims are vagabonds, an uncivilized bunch?

I simply posted the article to find out what the reaction would be. I know that the hatred referred to by the article is not a part of mainstream Islam, but there are, it seems, many who don't. That is a problem for the Muslim community, and therefore all of us, wouldn't you agree?

I consider it a part of their free speech. The same way Mr. Daniel pipes peddles his crap against Muslims day in and day out.. Something has got to give..

Just look at the state of me: :'(

Try a chilled beverage. I find it soothing when I am seething!

I can certainly take criticism, I just don't think there's any need for rudeness.

I guess that goes both ways. Prior I have told you we run by different clocks.. it is all a matter of perceptual experience!

You're the first person on the forum to accuse me of being 'harsh and abusive'. That's not my intention, and I'm sorry you feel that way. If the mods feel the same way I'd like them to let me know at their first opportunity.

You are just really skilled at it.. that it will pass!

Stop participating? Because of one person who has a grudge against me? Sorry.

I assure you I have better things to do with my life than hold a grudge.. I just do it to entertain myself-- you know to relax! :smile:


cheers

 

[wilberhum]

Freedoms and how I feel about them.
Freedom of speech, expression, press, religion, and Etc.
I conceder them among my greatest gifts.
But there in fact down sides.
I do not approve of porno but I will tolerate it because I don’t want some one coming along and throwing paint on the Mona Lisa, or taking a jack hammer to the statue of David because they think they are pornographic.

You may find it odd, but I respect Larry Flint as a fighter for freedoms, yet I would be discussed if any “house of god” would sell his work.

I feel the same about writings that create hate and intolerance. I appose those writings but would never want them to become illegal because there are things we need to hate and I would not like someone else to make that determination for me.

Even more than Porno, books that promote hate have no place in any “house of god” and I am discussed that they would be there.

 

[Pygoscelis]

I think it is crystal clear that society actually doesn't know the true meaning of freedom of speech. As PA rightfully said: ''Face it, it is freedom of speech only when you are inciting anti-Islamic sentiment. Everything else simply crosses the limits.''

There is no doubt that muslims are a group that is frequently attacked in the west, and especially in the USA (it certainly insn't the only such group).

There is a lot of confusion about what Islam is and what Islam wants and intends regarding the rest of us. The writings that are the topic of this thread serve as fuel to this fire.

When people declare that they find it good to kill people for things such as adultery or having a difference of opinion on a religous matter it should not be suprising that others will hear this and grow concerned about the danger that appears to represent. It then often grows and exagerates and turns into something ugly. Add the backdrop of islamic terrorist attacks and you've got a surefire recipe for bigotry against muslims.

 

[Pygoscelis]

You may find it odd, but I respect Larry Flint as a fighter for freedoms, yet I would be discussed if any “house of god” would sell his work.

You would be discussed? What would they say about you? You are connected to this selling nudie books in churches?

Ha. Just teasin ya. That is one funny typo though.