Let's talk Egypt

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Yup.. pls make du3a for Egypt and Syria and Yemen and Libya and Tunisia and Palestine and Afghanistan and Chechnya and Bosnia and all the Muslims in the east and west who are suffering so...
 
What does everyone make of the election result? Aparently the Muslim Brotherhood has taken 53% of the votes in presidential elections, but the Army has declared itself the supreme authority until a new constitution is written. I suspect the constitution will be written by the Army and like-minded people to somehow disqualify the Muslim Brotherhood candidate! The people have chosen and the armed forces are denying their choice! :hmm:
 
:sl: man I'm so confused about the situation in Egypt. Who are the Muslim Brotherhood and can they be trusted? I even heard that the former Egypt president (not mubarak) is also running for presidency this year..
 
I've seen a report that israeli tanks are on the egyptian border now, but it still needs to be checked if its true, if so then they're preparing to invade sinai soon.
 
Sayd Qutb was from the brotherhood.. remember him? he was sentenced to death by Abdul Nassar along with many members of the brotherhood. They've been tortured and imprisoned for 80+ years.. so why can't they be trusted? They were the ones passing out bags of wheat and rice and meat to people when the elites were putting billions in swiss banks. I guess it is like the taliban type thing.. Israel and the west say how they're backwards, they're this they're that and everyone jumps on that bandwagon.
Well they're what the people want, they won by popular vote and the military council which should be tried for high treason dissolved the parliament anyway and spent billions of suaris money on smear campaigns. Should tell you how strong the grip of the west is even on the way the people should think. Nonetheless the brotherhood is from the people, the people who are educated doctors and engineers and teachers etc. and volunteered their time and wealth and money hence they're popular with the people because they're who the people are and who they know when the old regime was busy in sharm el sheikh.
Military council, media and judges union are old regime picked and instated so screw 'em in plain English and the Spawn they're working for. I don't think Egypt is in a position to fight Israel this very moment but it is the compass that most of the Arab world follows for leadership so it is a matter of time.
YES PALESTINE COURSES THROUGH OUR VEINS AND WE WON'T FORGET THEM. We're coming in shaa Allah....

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Yeah Israel is on the borders, bombing themselves as usual to show that only military rule works for Egypt etc. etc. etc.
 
I Think its false alarm, they were on a spot where a shoot out was exchanged between mujahideen and israeli soldiers, one israeli got killed and 3 palestinians killed also. Its not the right ''justification'' for israel to invade yet.
 
Jedi_Mindset said:
I Think its false alarm, they were on a spot where a shoot out was exchanged between mujahideen and israeli soldiers, one israeli got killed and 3 palestinians killed also. Its not the right ''justification'' for israel to invade yet.
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They never had justification to enter ANYWHERE.. They've already killed six Egyptians at the border and breached the so-called treaty .. those mujahadeen if that's in fact what they were are Palestinian not coming at them from Egypt. They just want to cut down the legs of something crippled because that's what they do best!
Libya gone to NATO, they've ruined the Tunisian revolt now they've to take permission to protest, they've also made sure that the former regime vice president took seat in Yemen, they went after Sudan until it split, and please have a look at Syria, you know that has to be providing high entertainment and now want Shafeeq same regime different face. Guaranteed the first thing to do is enter Egypt open their embassy again, and make sure the brotherhood is completely destroyed.
 
The current Us-backed government(Pro-mubarak/secular) wont go down with a fight. Its a big chance a civil war will loom for egypt and the muslim brotherhood will declare war on the traitors(Pro-americans) if the elections will become fraud insha'Allah
 
I am trying to find this debate that took place yesterday on Al Jazeera between Qandeel (who was beaten and stripped and left in the desert during the Mubarak regime) and HasabaAllah.. I don't think it is been made available for youtube yet as it only happened yesterday but it was brilliant.. positively laid it all out on the table.. salaries of the traitors, bought judges, intentions, what huge role Israel and the U.S play in the current trends.. Which countries which are occupied militarily and others politically & how..
Is it any wonder they tried to bomb Al-Jazeera Arabic several times and succeeding in some instances, killing reporters in the process plus coercing the Qatari sheikh to shut it down..
No thanks to his funding he simply happened upon some amazing journalists (the Arabic version) I never watch the English crap as it is made to echo western style news. I need to find that debate again as it was a priceless nugget..
 
Not everything from al-jazeera is truth either, it was set up with the help of washington and KSA.
But yes you can pick some out of every media outlet, which contain some truth in it.
 
it wasn't set up by either .. in fact the U.S was so pissed off after multiple attempts of trying to shut it down or bomb its headquarters and it times even hack it decided to set up their own station called Al hurra trying to snatch that Muslim audience and KSA also tried to rival it I believe with the station called Al Arbiaya neither was successful. Except they proclaim that al Hurra is the number one station watched by Iraqis.
Either case the English version is probably catered to them but the Arabic version is brilliant in all the ways that I have seen.
You've to follow it, you can't just guess of it with preconceived prejudices!
 
Well it is owned and approved by the Emir of qatar, so thats why i've such seriously doubts. It is zionists- controlled, but doesnt spread every lie around, the zionists are smart by convincing the arabs that al-jazeera is trusted. You can get some truth out of it, but for me- nada nope, no media networks anymore. Talking with locals helps alot more, if you want to know something in a foreign country. Books, analysts.

Anyway lets go ontopic now, dont want to ramble about media outlets here. lol
 
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Well it is owned and approved by the Emir of qatar, so thats why i've such seriously doubts. It is zionists- controlled, but doesnt spread every lie around, the zionists are smart by convincing the arabs that al-jazeera is trusted. You can get some truth out of it, but for me- nada nope, no media networks anymore. Talking with locals helps alot more, if you want to know something in a foreign country. Books, analysts.

Anyway lets go ontopic now, dont want to ramble about media outlets here. lol
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actually they don't and the Emir wanted to sell it, it is probably the best thing that came out of his kingdom:

[h=3]Israel[/h] On 13 March 2008, Israel imposed sanctions on Al Jazeera, accusing it of slanted coverage favoring Hamas. Deputy Foreign Minister Majalli Wahabi said that Israel would deny entry visas to Al Jazeera employees, and that Israeli officials would not be available for interviews with the network. According to Wahabi, "We have seen that Al Jazeera has become a part of Hamas... taking sides and cooperating with people who are enemies of the State of Israel. The moment a station like Al Jazeera gives unreliable reports, represents only one side, and doesn't present the positions of the other side, why should we cooperate"? Wahabi said that the Israeli Foreign Ministry would send letters of complaint to the government of Qatar and Al Jazeera.[SUP][72][/SUP]
In February 2009, Israel again imposed sanctions on Al Jazeera after Qatar closed the Israeli trade office in Doha in protest to the Gaza War. Initially, Israel contemplated declaring Al Jazeera a hostile entity and shutting down its Israel offices, but after a legal review, the Israeli government decided instead to impose limited measures to restrict Al Jazeera's activities in the country. All Al Jazeera employees would not have their visas renewed, and the Israeli government would issue no new visas. Al Jazeera staff would also not be allowed to attend government briefings and reduced access to government and military offices or interview Knesset members. The station would only be allowed access to three official spokespersons: The Prime Minister's Office, the Foreign Ministry, and the IDF Spokesperson's Unit.[SUP][73][/SUP]
In August 2011, Samer Allawi, Al Jazeera's Afghanistan bureau chief, was arrested by Israeli authorities on charges of being a member of Hamas. Walied Al-Omary, Al Jazeera's bureau chief in Israel and the Palestinian territories, said the military court accused Allawi of making contact with members of Hamas's armed wing.[SUP][74][/SUP] A co-leader of The Committee to Protect Journalists said "Israel must clarify why it continues to hold Samer Allawi."[SUP][75][/SUP][SUP][76]

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[h=3]Iraq[/h] During the Iraq war, Al Jazeera faced reporting and movement restrictions, as did other news-gathering organizations. In addition, one of its reporters, Tayseer Allouni, was expelled from the country, while another one, Diyar Al-Omari, was stripped of his journalistic permits by the US. Reacting to this, Al Jazeera announced on 2 April 2003, that it would "temporarily freeze all coverage" of Iraq in protest of what Al Jazeera described as unreasonable interference from Iraqi officials.[SUP][121][/SUP] During 2004, Al Jazeera broadcast several video tapes of various victims of kidnappings in Iraq, which had been sent to the network. The videos had been filmed by the kidnappers holding the hostages. The hostages were shown, often blindfolded, pleading for their release. They often appeared to be forced to read out prepared statements of their kidnappers. Al Jazeera has assisted authorities from the home countries of the victims in an attempt to secure the release of kidnapping victims.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] This included broadcasting pleas from family members and government officials. Contrary to some allegations, including the oft-reported comments of Donald Rumsfeld on 4 June 2005, Al Jazeera has never shown beheadings. (Beheadings have appeared on numerous non-Al Jazeera websites and have sometimes been misattributed to Al Jazeera.)[SUP][107][/SUP]
On 7 August 2004, the Iraqi Allawi government shut down the Iraq office of Al Jazeera, claiming that it was responsible for presenting a negative image of Iraq, and charging the network with fueling anti-Coalition hostilities. Al Jazeera spokesman Jihad Ballout said: "It's regrettable and we believe it's not justifiable. This latest decision runs contrary to all the promises made by Iraqi authorities concerning freedom of expression and freedom of the press,"[SUP][122][/SUP] and Al Jazeera vowed to continue its reporting from inside Iraq.[SUP][123][/SUP] News photographs showed United States and Iraqi military personnel working together to close the office. Initially closed by a one-month ban, the shutdown was extended indefinitely in September 2004, and the offices were sealed,[SUP][124][/SUP] drawing condemnation from international journalists.[SUP][125]

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In presenting "The opinion and the other opinion" to which the Arabic script in the network's logo refers, it did not take long for Al Jazeera to shock local viewers by presenting the Israeli speaking Hebrew on Arab TV for the first time. Lively and far-ranging talk shows, particularly a popular, confrontational one called The Opposite Direction, were a constant source of controversy regarding issues of morality and religion. This prompted a torrent of criticism from the conservative voices among the region's press. It also led to official complaints and censures from neighboring governments. Some jammed Al Jazeera's terrestrial broadcast or booted its correspondents. In 1999, the Algerian government reportedly cut power to several major cities to censor one broadcast. There were also commercial repercussions; Saudi Arabia reportedly pressured advertisers to avoid the channel, to great effect. Al Jazeera was also becoming a favorite sounding board for militant groups such as Hamas and Chechen separatists.
Al Jazeera was the only international news network to have correspondents in Iraq during the Operation Desert Fox bombing campaign in 1998. In a precursor of a pattern to follow, its exclusive video clips were highly prized by Western media.

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[h=3]United States[/h] Since 9/11 U.S. officials have claimed an anti-American bias to Al Jazeera's news coverage.[SUP][81][/SUP][SUP][135][/SUP] The station first gained widespread attention in the West following the September 11, 2001 attacks, when it broadcast videos in which Osama bin Laden and Sulaiman Abu Ghaith defended and justified the attacks. This led to significant controversy and accusations by the United States government that Al Jazeera was engaging in propaganda on behalf of terrorists. Al Jazeera countered that it was merely making information available without comment, and several western television channels later followed suit in broadcasting portions of the tapes. At an 3 October 2001 press conference, Colin Powell tried to persuade the emir of Qatar to shut down Al Jazeera.[SUP][136][/SUP][SUP][137][/SUP][SUP][138][/SUP]
On 13 November 2001, during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, a U.S. missile strike destroyed Al Jazeera's office in Kabul. There were no casualties.[SUP][79][/SUP] On 12 October 2008, Al Jazeera broadcast interviews with people attending a Sarah Palin 2008 United States presidential election rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio, with interviewees making comments about Barack Obama such as "he regards white people as trash" and "I'm afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over". The report received over 2 million views on YouTube[SUP][139][/SUP] and elicited comment by Colin Powell: "Those kind of images going out on Al Jazeera are killing us."[SUP][140][/SUP] Following this the Washington Post ran an op-ed,[SUP][141][/SUP] claiming the news channel was deliberately encouraging "anti-American sentiment overseas",[SUP][141][/SUP] which was criticized by Al Jazeera as "a gratuitous and uninformed shot at Al Jazeera's motives", as the report was just one of "hundreds of hours of diverse coverage".[SUP][140

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[h=4]Al Jazeera bombing memo[/h] Main article: Al Jazeera bombing memo
Also see O'Connor - Keogh official secrets trial. On 22 November 2005, the UK tabloid The Daily Mirror published a story claiming that it had obtained a leaked memo from 10 Downing Street saying that former U.S. President George W. Bush had considered bombing Al Jazeera's Doha headquarters in April 2004, when United States Marines were conducting a contentious assault on Fallujah.[SUP][93][/SUP]
In light of this allegation, Al Jazeera has questioned whether it has been targeted deliberately in the past – Al Jazeera's Kabul office was bombed in 2001 and another missile hit its office in Baghdad during the invasion of Iraq, killing correspondent Tareq Ayyoub. Both of these attacks occurred subsequent to Al Jazeera's disclosure of the locations of their offices to the United States.[SUP][94]

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just to showcase a few events to how much the west and Israel wishes this portal would simply go away

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera#cite_note-aljazeera_to_wp-139[/SUP]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera





so you're welcome to show me in which Al Jazeera Arabic is speaking for the U.S or Israel.
It is one of the very few media outlets short of a few independent sources that show it like it is, live unadulterated.. furthermore, they have many programs on sharia with prominent speakers.
 
hmm thats interesting, but i doubt it, they've always done this: creating opposition, it might be true but these are times we living appearance is other than reaility. Especially with the things happening in the middle east.

Does al-jazeera also reports truth from afghanistan? like that US troops getting killed on daily basis? while the west doesnt report that?

Just like russia shows ''opposition'' towards US, but in meanwhile they train together to ''counter-terrorism''. <--- this example might not be relevant to this but appearance is different then reality.

I'll just try to refrain from media sources, just like things happening in syria i've talked with locals.
 
you're welcome to your doubts however you need to level those doubts with actual evidence to the contrary if we are to dispense with facts not emotion and not opinion. You've not been able to offer either so on what basis am I to accept your doubts? Simply because an unrelated matter from an unrelated news outlet has proven contrary to the values of free independent reporting? I've asked you repeatedly to showcase their shady reporting with something that counteracts it and you've not been able to do so.
How do you create or foster your knowledge of world affairs? Isn't it by reading multiple sources and comparing? You yourself aren't in any of the places you care to defend so on what authority do you speak? المؤمن فطن he or she doesn't go through life on bombast and emotion without facts it then becomes an empty passion.

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the point is that al-jazeera is broadcasted for free or with cable here in the west, if it was really a good news source it would've been removed from every television. Just like they silence the ones who speak out truth.

If they would've get rid of al-jazeera they would've done it a long time ago. Al-jazeera is just like other media outlet zionist controlled and remember when al-jazeera blamed 9/11 caused by ''bin laden''?

''Al-Jazeera is a Zionist tool that promotes the Jewish 'War on Terror' and perpetuates the myth of Al-Qaeda across the Arab World. Most if not all amateurish audio and video tapes were faked by Al-Jazeera and/or its Zionist sister Intel center. Al-Jazeera also Promotes the 'Al-Qaeda did 9/11' scum. I personally sent copies of '911 Eyewitness' for their consideration, twice, the latter was by 'recorded delivery'. Never got a reply and to my knowledge Al-Jazeera never aired '911 Eyewitness'

Al Jazeera's motto is: ‘‘We get both sides of the story.'' BS!''


''[h=3]Post-9/11[/h]Al Jazeera came to the attention of many in the West during the hunt for Osama bin Laden after the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States. The station aired videos it received from Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, deeming new footage of the world's most wanted fugitives to be newsworthy. Some criticized the network, however, for giving a voice to terrorists. Al Jazeera's Washington, D.C. bureau chief compared the situation to that of the Unabomber's messages in The New York Times. The network said it had been given the tapes merely because it had a large Arab audience.
The rest of the world's television networks were eager to acquire the same footage. CNN International had exclusive rights for six hours before other networks could broadcast it (a provision that was broken by the others on at least one controversial occasion). Prime Minister Tony Blair soon appeared on an Al Jazeera talk show to state Britain's case for pursuing the Taliban into Afghanistan.
Al Jazeera's prominence was heightened during the war in Afghanistan since it had opened a bureau in Kabul before 9/11. This gave it better video than the others scrambling to cover the invasion, clips that sold for as much as $250,000. The Kabul office was destroyed, however, by United States bombs in 2001. Looking to stay ahead of the future conflicts Al Jazeera then opened bureaus in other trouble spots.
The network remained dependent on government support in 2002, having a budget of $40 million and ad revenues of about $8 million. It also took in fees for sharing its news feed with other networks. It was estimated to have up to roughly 45 million viewers around the world. Al Jazeera soon had to contend with a new rival, Al Arabiya, an offshoot of the Middle East Broadcasting Center, set up in nearby Dubai with generous Saudi backing.
http://factsnotfairies.blogspot.nl/2011/03/al-jazeera-propaganda-channel-for_21.html

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera[/URL]
 
Anyways, using presstv owned by reuters as a source now but this wont suprise you:

''Egypt rulling junta threatens to crack down on protests''

Egypt ruling military council has warned of using force against protesters who have gathered in Cairo’s Liberation Square to protest the army’s grip on power.


The Supreme Council of Armed Forces (SCAF) warned on Friday that the army will "deal firmly" with what it called attempts to harm public interests.

The junta also criticized the Muslim Brotherhood for giving election result early, claiming that releasing unofficial poll results has caused divisions among the nation.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/22/247430/egypt-junta-threatens-force-crackdown-protests/


 

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