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That's my point exactly you are saying all the people who support make poverty history are kaffirs. And you say you are working for islam, so when the kaffir hears you say things like this they think all muslims have your mentality.
 
aslaama lykum,

ermmmmmmmm kaffir/kuffar means non-believer, and seeing as these people dont believe, they are kaffir/kuffar. whats ur point?
 
Assaalmu 'alaikum

I hope you dont mind be butting in, and giving my view on this :)

By supporting this organisation, I am supporting what they do...

The music, dancing, the entertainment..

All of which I am strongly against.

They want to end poverty? Im sure if all those famous individuals involved in this campaign came together they could afford to end poverty.
 
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rightly so far7an..but doing this concert boosts their ratings not end poverty. how many will remember the real purpose?
 
Far7an said:
Assaalmu 'alaikum

I hope you dont mind be butting in, and giving my view on this :)

By supporting this organisation, I am supporting what they do...

The music, dancing, the entertainment..

All of which I am strongly against.

They want to end poverty? Im sure if all those famous individuals involved in this campaign came together they could afford to end poverty.
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ok, but what is it exactly that they do? islam has its own system for dealing with this problem, it is called zakat, a tax which the caliph collects for the poor and needy, NOT by mascerading naked women and men singing about haram and acting in a haram way. Islam is the only system that can make poverty history.

wa alykum aslaam
 
I have read a lot of your post and they don't help the view of islam in no musilm worlds. they just make Islam seem like a world of hate wahts worng with helping people who is half Islamic anyway? I mean being mad is not going to slove anything we are to paceful people but all I have heard on this Thread is two brothers :argue: and :sorry: I feel like they are our :brother: and :sister: and we should help in the name of allah. do we forget that he sees us no matter what? they are humans and we should care a bout them. put your self in there shoes would you want to eat from the hands of your sisthers or from the hands who will only later try to take that food out your soul ?



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so wait, saying kaffir are bad, is helping there image, how does that work?
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why so much :mad: chill out


Mr. Baldy said:
ok, but what is it exactly that they do? islam has its own system for dealing with this problem, it is called zakat, a tax which the caliph collects for the poor and needy, NOT by mascerading naked women and men singing about haram and acting in a haram way. Islam is the only system that can make poverty history.

wa alykum aslaam
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Assalamu 'alaikum

Mr. Baldy said:
ok, but what is it exactly that they do? islam has its own system for dealing with this problem, it is called zakat, a tax which the caliph collects for the poor and needy, NOT by mascerading naked women and men singing about haram and acting in a haram way. Islam is the only system that can make poverty history.

wa alykum aslaam
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akhee, I strongly suggest you study more before you make these points..

Did you know we can donate to kuffar in some circumstances? I am not reffering to this.

But I strongly urge everyone against making points without knowledge.

We talk about the ummah? one of the main problems is people talking without knowledge
 
lol i think the problem here is that one may assume that it's all about the music etc. Sorry if i aint made it clear between the difference of make poverty history and the concert in Hyde park yesterday. Live8 was the ploy to get those who aren't as politicaly aware than others, therefore live8 is a branch of the make poverty history campaign. The website I posted earlier takes you to the make poverty histroy site, so to end further confrontations here is the site to sign up to http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/
 
look bro, no one is saying go to the concert (which was yesterday), we (well ok I) am saying is that i've signed up to the make poverty history campaign and if anyone else wants to then good, if you are narrow minded then don't.
http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/
 
and a agin WHY leave our :brother: and :sister: inthe hands ? do you think that they would get a fair teatment ????? if we don't help :wilted_ro



Far7an said:
Assaalmu 'alaikum

I hope you dont mind be butting in, and giving my view on this :)

By supporting this organisation, I am supporting what they do...

The music, dancing, the entertainment..

All of which I am strongly against.

They want to end poverty? Im sure if all those famous individuals involved in this campaign came together they could afford to end poverty.
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well see how far this make poverty history campaign goes, and well see if anything changes in the next 10 years, do you even know why africa is so poor?

let me give u a lil history lesson. at the start africa was a wealthy country with an abundance of resources, gold, diamonds, tobacco e.t.c, the western goverments (yes the same goverments that claim they want to help now) went and raped africa taking black slaves who they sed were inferior species. they stlole resources from africa, crippling its economy. later when slavery was abolished racism still lurked, and the emergence of groups such as KKK.

now, in the 70's the IMF loaned money to the african nations, pormising low interest rates and long period of time to pay back. a decade later, the IMF shot up interst rates which then crippled the africans even more, and they wanted the money quickly.

now these governments claim they want to help the african people. let me ask you this would you give the nazis money because they promised they would help the jews?

wa alykum aslaam
 
let me ask you this would you give the nazis money because they promised they would help the jews?
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That's uncalled for
 
and i thought you were the one giving us a "history lesson"
 
I live in the west and I care about every one and my family who happens to be non musilms do too the help islamic and non islamic so it no the same. :thumbs_do :mad:



Mr. Baldy said:
its the same thing, apart from compared to the west the nazis seem fair
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