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don't worry, doesn't have much to do with pessimism as with realism, life is not a picnic always. realizing that actually makes you appreciate life more.

Hmm, yeh I guess. Doesnt take much though does it....to say that you'll trust Allah (swt) and let Qadr take its course even though you may not see marriage on the cards anytime soon.

It's true that life is not always a picnic, but doesnt that make one appreciate and crave a relationship whereby life would seem at least a little rosy.

WassalamuAlaykum
 
to hibernate any thoughts to do with marriage and tricking the mind into thinking women to be just normal beings that are not attractive
 
I think you are mistaken.. marriage doesn't have to be a burden, but some folks make it so... Marriage should be wonderful but is it?.

I think if marriage exists on the sacrifice of one party's happiness for another, then yes more and more people will think of it as a burden--it has nothing to do with your 'defined' roles and the change in society, save if the definition is man imposed?

If the men now a days were anything like those early Muslims during the time of the prophet, one might indeed reconsider---
but the fact is women continued along the same path while many men devolved if such a term is applicable ---

one indeed can cement this with modern day examples
the guy who marries the daughter of a renowned doctor (my dad's friend) to get a green card, lives off her family's fortune, when he father dies she continues to work while he sits at home, later on cheats on her ..

the woman who was beaten maliciously by her husband (sister's friend) then leaves her with three children whom she has to raise on her own without support or alimony, she ends up working for another miserable sap a so-called hajj who favors christian Hispanic workers treats her like crap (she had no formal education because of her own stringent upbringing) and yet took his abuse along with her husband's to raise her children and put them to school the best she can from the pennies she makes, she still manages to give to charity, when her own husband can't even be charitable to his own children...

the pediatrician whose father died at a young age, and when she herself became of age, her mother constantly pressured her to marry until she ended up with a con artist who feigned a doctorate when he was a taxi driver (no there is nothing wrong with being a taxi driver) but there is with being deceptive..

perhaps when you put things into perspective, you'd feel less inclined to the pre-formed judgment and maybe actively look at what it is that ails many Muslims?

There are no khalid ibn ilwaleed, or Omar ibn ilkhtab left and lucky are those who end up with someone with some semblance ( perhaps the sacrifices will then be well worth it) but I guarantee you most women have modest expectations -- a dignified life of compassion and companionship for starters would be good to consider before jumping to other conclusions!

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AssalamuAlaykum

You'd know as well as anybody else sis that your past experiences and what you have come across in life will mould you and your opinions...That's what I thought when I first read your post.

Marriage is not necessarily a bed of roses, but I'm sure many members could share happy stories, positive ones..

There are no khalid ibn ilwaleed, or Omar ibn ilkhtab but I guarantee you most women have modest expectations -- a dignified life of compassion and companionship for starters would be good to consider before jumping to other conclusions!

Agreed

WassalamuAlaykum
 
hmm J.U.N.I.O.R, I wonder how long that'll work. as long as humans exist, males will seek out females regardless of how society changes. what I think is due is a change of perception, our perception of women as unindividual's that is.
 
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AssalamuAlaykum

You'd know as well as anybody else sis that your past experiences and what you have come across in life will mould you and your opinions...That's what I thought when I first read your post.

Marriage is not necessarily a bed of roses, but I'm sure many members could share happy stories, positive ones..



Agreed

WassalamuAlaykum

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I could share happy ones as well.. perhaps when one has wonderful and loses it, one wants to recapture it again-- or at least avoid the errors of others..
I have loved someone special and he died-- so other sob stories of abuse and neglect don't necessarily apply to me -- I am just amused at how life can rob you one way or the other.. and for others to assume somehow that you had something to do with it..
what I am trying to say is.. there is nothing wrong with marriage.. yes some are single and it is OK, they are not pariahs, or difficult or picky or have something wrong with them structurally or physically or psychologically.. life just happens-- it is best that we assume the best, than jump to conclusions or cast doubt and judgment-- or alienate others because they don't fall under the 'norm'

al7mdlilah

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I could share happy ones as well.. perhaps when one has wonderful and loses it, one wants to recapture it again-- or at least avoid the errors of others..
I have loved someone special and he died-- so other sob stories of abuse and neglect don't necessarily apply to me -- I am just amused at how life can rob you one way or the other.. and for others to assume somehow that you had something to do with it..
what I am trying to say is.. there is nothing wrong with marriage.. yes some are single and it is OK, they are not pariahs, or difficult or picky or have something wrong with them structurally or physically or psychologically.. life just happens-- it is best that we assume the best, than jump to conclusions or cast doubt and judgment-- or alienate others because they don't fall under the 'norm'

al7mdlilah

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:wasalamex

I'm sorry if it seemed that I'm judging.

I would never judge one who had endured a loss. I would commend their strength and Sabr. It's a different thing altogether though for one who has never loved, for a teenager to say that they would give up marrying with no good reason whatsoever.

If you've loved and lost once, you can be wary of loving again...

WassalamuAlaykum
 
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I personally say as Ibn Mas'ud (radi allaahu anhu) said:`If I had but ten days left to live, I would like to marry, so as not to meet Allaah as a celibate.'
 
:wasalamex

I'm sorry if it seemed that I'm judging.

I would never judge one who had endured a loss. I would commend their strength and Sabr. It's a different thing altogether though for one who has never loved, for a teenager to say that they would give up marrying with no good reason whatsoever.

If you've loved and lost once, you can be wary of loving again...

WassalamuAlaykum

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that is very true sister.. what you want for others is a noble thing.. I hope I am not giving the impression that I am against marriage.. I am simply against coerced and forced marriages to fulfill a certain status quo, or to yield to thinking negative thoughts of folks who remain single, because I believe people further alienate them-- or turn every conversation into a marriage based one like they are behind schedule because then they will want to get away and alienate themselves .. I think just like the common cold takes of some folks five days to heal, of others seven or ten, so too do other wounds... people need to go at things their own pace that is all...

Jazaki Allah khyran..

you are so sweet :smile: and I appreciate you posting the article for discussion...

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I personally say as Ibn Mas'ud (radi allaahu anhu) said:`If I had but ten days left to live, I would like to marry, so as not to meet Allaah as a celibate.'

it would be a bummer indeed to die a virgin ;D

sort of like being given a parking ticket instead of a speeding one...

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to hibernate any thoughts to do with marriage and tricking the mind into thinking women to be just normal beings that are not attractive

That's a bit hard to do bro..seeing as how Allaah says that desire for women has been beautified [zuyyina] for men.

{Beautified for people is the love of that which they desire - of women...}[ale-Imran; 14]

First thing mentioned is women :X More than trying to change the mind, fasting is the better antidote.
 
AssalamuAlaykum

May Allah (swt) give you all something better in exchange for what was taken from you. Ameen!

or turn every conversation into a marriage based one like they are behind schedule because then they will want to get away and alienate themselves .

That's people for you ;D let it pass...Even I get that and I'm still classed a teenager :p

BarakAllah feeki

WassalamuAlaykum x
 
i will just like to pull up a post i not sure who it was buy, but *points @ you* :p naa

it said summin like its hard for single parents to find a spouse, but tiddy but :D like i think there are many many manyyyyyyy men that wouldnt mind marryin someone who is also married, or someone who isnt a virgin or whatever, what we need to understand is when Allah (Swt) can forgive who are we not to innaay!
 
i think there are many many manyyyyyyy men that wouldnt mind marryin someone who is also married

hmm, I don't think it's allowed in Islam to marry someone who is married at the same time, otherwise you make a good point:).
 
hmm, I don't think it's allowed in Islam to marry someone who is married at the same time, otherwise you make a good point:).

AssalamuAlaykum

I think he made a typo and meant those who have been married before. Wallahu A'lam

WassalamuAlaykum
 
heh, but that's a bit too harsh sister:)..
glad you have your humor back though.

I was given a parking ticket on a day I was speeding at 90 miles and hour.. I can't tell you how humiliated I felt when the witch handed me a ticket for dropping off a friend in a no parking zone...

It would have been something of a victory to have been given that ticket for speeding on the highway instead..

It just seems too wimpy -- on the bright side parking tickets do cost less.. so there really is always a silver lining :D

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you know why...it is encourage to get married fast. :D

1. so that you'll not be too choosy.
2. u are not that bothered about the hard life of marriage (b4 marriage)
3. after marriage you'll get to learn what is responsibility at the young age. So at the young age you'll know what life is really all about...

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I"m a firm believer in marrying young.

1. it helps cope with body's natural changes and urges
2. it safeguards and protects one from fitnah
3. it is sunnah
4. it allows you more time to live together
5. it makes u have grown up kids when your not too old
6. it's the best thing young people can do
7. it teaches you to be accepting of each other as both of your personality is being developed. Being older makes you more choosy and nit picky and just a sour puss and rigid to change since your "ways" and personality has been hard coded in by then
 

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