Locals turn against Taliban in eastern Afghanistan

[Jedi_Mindset]

:wa:

Yep. And that brings this thread back full circle when the OP was asked to find another source with the information. He wasn't able to and this is why the thread ended up derailed in this way.

Much better is to talk with locals, no news media and sources
Internet is a great thing for this. I came to know that around 80% of the afghan population support the taliban and other resistance groups in afghanistan against the Invaders. Al-quaida doesn't even exist at all. Its a joke, created by the CIA to create a ''boogeyman'' for their justification to launch wars against islam. Even much soldiers of the afghan army support the mujahideen, hence they turn their weapon against the NATO occupiers. lol

U see America: Allah is the best of planners not you. Your arrogance is your own downfall just like the west, Russia, china and israel Insha'Allah

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Internet is a great thing for this. I came to know that around 80% of the afghan

how many percentage of the Afghan population is on the internet?

Much better is to talk with locals, no news media and sources

And how do you propose I talk to Afghan locals from miles away?

 

[جوري]

how many percentage of the Afghan population is on the internet?



And how do you propose I talk to Afghan locals from miles away?

If you're asking the first question in rhetoric & don't have an answer for the second Q then why do you presuppose that you can speak on their behalf and from third party sources ergo the people who actually have war declared upon them. How much credibility do you think you've at this stage of the game?

best,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

If you're asking the first question in rhetoric & don't have an answer for the second Q then why do you presuppose that you can speak on their behalf and from third party sources, from the people who actually have war declared upon them. How much credibility do you think you've at this stage of the game?

The journalists didn't declare a war on them. Your mentality is still of medieval times. There are honest journalists working out there who are trying to get the real story out. To paint all of them into one "biased" group will be wrong. You quoted Robert Frisk of independent.co.uk in one your replies. Isn't he also working for a news medium of the very "people who have declared war on the Afghans"??

 

[جوري]

The journalists didn't declare a war on them.

The article you quoted isn't a first hands account of the alleged victims nor have said reporters ventured into taliban land heck even the military dare not venture there save for unmanned drones.. In your milatonic mind if it is written with some authority it makes it believable and thus it has to be true?

Your mentality is still of medieval times.

In what way? I'd like to be as progressive as the next person if you'd some semblance of common sense!

There are honest journalists working out there who are trying to get the real story out.

See my first comment and prove it!

To paint all of them into one "biased" group will be wrong.

I haven't painted them in any such way, they're people who are paid to do their job find out who pays them and to dispense what kind of news and you'll have an answer as to why this sort of crap is rampant, as to why you're so ensnared and why you're so indolent and persistent with a topic that shouldn't otherwise have a second glance is a conundrum- however it is a chance subvert your efforts!

You quoted Robert Frisk of independent.co.uk in one your replies. Isn't he also working for a news medium of the very "people who have declared war on the Afghans"?

He is working for the independent not corporate media, however, see my reply to sis Insaanah here:

http://www.islamicboard.com/world-a...aliban-eastern-afghanistan-8.html#post1522946

 

[Roasted Cashew]

He is working for the independent not corporate media

Can you list me some of the "corporate media" outlets here that you loath the most and can you list down some media outlets like the independent which do not fall under the "corporate media" tag.

 

[جوري]

Can you list me some of the "corporate media" outlets here that you loath the most and can you list down some media outlets like the independent which do not fall under the "corporate media" tag.

It isn't incumbent upon me to do your homework for you- you've a head on your shoulder then use it!
There's nothing further on the subject matter that I care to impart if you're done beating a dead horse!

best,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

It isn't incumbent upon me to do your homework for you- you've a head on your shoulder then use it!

My dear sis, I said corporate media that YOU loath the most..that isn't exactly my homework but a question to you. Also, what media outlets are there out there that YOU deem not as "corporate media". I didn't ask a general question but a well directed question to you.

 

[جوري]

My dear sis, I said corporate media that YOU loath the most..that isn't exactly my homework but a question to you. Also, what media outlets are there out there that YOU deem not as "corporate media". I didn't ask a general question but a well directed question to you.

Do your research on Murdoch and others in his footsteps. As to where I get my news, that's my business isn't it?

 

[IslamicRevival]

Exactly what I have been saying all this while brother. But some brothers and sisters here just don't get it.

No offence bro but i don't think you get it either. You constantly criticize Al Qaeda for their crimes, and rightly so but completely ignore the bigger picture.

Remember its America/NATO who are bombing Muslim lands, they are the ones who arrogantly deploy killer drones over the skies of Pakistan, they are the ones who hire hit men (Blackwater) to carry out false flag attacks and target/kill anyone they deem a 'threat'. Ultimately, NATO are the aggressors and the ones who are fighting back are nothing less then victims, they are the resistance who are protecting, or trying to protect their nation (Men women and children) and you would be a fool to think otherwise.

The way you put your views across is no different to what I hear on majority of News channels these days, its the language of the mass media and i think you've been reeled in, 'hook line and sinker' to their way of thinking.

 

[glo]

Do we have any people from Afghanistan here in the forum?

 

[GuestFellow]

Salaam to all,

how many percentage of the Afghan population is on the internet?

And how do you propose I talk to Afghan locals from miles away?

Very good questions.

No offence bro but i don't think you get it either. You constantly criticize Al Qaeda for their crimes, and rightly so but completely ignore the bigger picture.

Remember its America/NATO who are bombing Muslim lands, they are the ones who arrogantly deploy killer drones over the skies of Pakistan, they are the ones who hire hit men (Blackwater) to carry out false flag attacks and target/kill anyone they deem a 'threat'. Ultimately, NATO are the aggressors and the ones who are fighting back are nothing less then victims, they are the resistance who are protecting, or trying to protect their nation (Men women and children) and you would be a fool to think otherwise.

The way you put your views across is no different to what I hear on majority of News channels these days, its the language of the mass media and i think you've been reeled in, 'hook line and sinker' to their way of thinking.

To be fair, from reading his past posts, he acknowledges that it was the US and some other countries that have created so many problems for Muslim countries. However, at the same time, he's not shy to criticise Muslims that commit atrocities.

I do think he needs to provide more sources for his articles. That will probably give him a good platform to support his views.

Now speaking of sources, there are people that are very quick to accept information from the corporate media when it suits/fits their line of thinking. However, as soon as it the corporate media presents a view that is contrary to their thinking, they will reject it without question. People with this type of mentality are clearly not objective.

 

[glo]

Now speaking of sources, there are people that are very quick to accept information from the corporate media when it suits/fits their line of thinking. However, as soon as it the corporate media presents a view that is contrary to their thinking, they will reject it without question. People with this type of mentality are clearly not objective.

Yes, I think sometimes we all hear (and believe) what we want to hear (and believe).

 

[جوري]

he acknowledges that it was the US and some other countries

Indeed.. Kaffirs as well acknowledge, yet they persist in their wars and persist in their drones and persist in their hatred..begs the question of is it enough to 'acknowledge' or even apologize which they don't do in favor of excuses like PTSD and mortgage payments.. I mean come on.. You acknowledge this but persistently criticize that? one doesn't expect people to believe or understand or relate but at least have some semblance of fairness for said articles to have any weightiness.
I can write an infinite number of dam*ing article about some remote region of Mozambique and I doubt the locals would do much to contest it given their immediate priorities.
I really wish we'd let this topic die in all its forms and those yet to be concocted!

 

[GuestFellow]

^ Salaam,

I want this topic to continue. I've learnt so much from being exposed to different views.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

No offence bro

none taken.

You constantly criticize Al Qaeda for their crimes, and rightly so but completely ignore the bigger picture.

glad you agree with me on a certain degree. Just remember, I criticize not only Al-Qaeda but everyone who transgresses under the banner of Islamic resistance.

Remember its America/NATO who are bombing Muslim lands, they are the ones who arrogantly deploy killer drones over the skies of Pakistan, they are the ones who hire hit men (Blackwater) to carry out false flag attacks and target/kill anyone they deem a 'threat'. Ultimately, NATO are the aggressors and the ones who are fighting back are nothing less then victims

Agree to everything you said up there.

they are the resistance who are protecting, or trying to protect their nation (Men women and children) and you would be a fool to think otherwise.

Indeed I would be a fool to call the pure and rightful resistance other than what it is. I only criticized those who transgressed in their battle for justice. That's all.