Logically thinking which group do you think the Mahdi will arrive amongst?

[sister herb]

the Mahdi will not appear amongst any group; he will naturally follow the Prophet [saw's] sunnah and all muslims will follow him

I agree with this opinion. We don´t even know which kind of groups we will have at the time when Mahdi appears (as it may happens after million years) but it´s the most logical that different kind of groups and sects lost their meaning and all Muslims follow the Prophet´s sunnah.

 

[Simple_Person]

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[urkahnkhan]

I agree with this opinion. We don´t even know which kind of groups we will have at the time when Mahdi appears (as it may happens after million years) but it´s the most logical that different kind of groups and sects lost their meaning and all Muslims follow the Prophet´s sunnah.

1. His not Million years away and very close to his time and age. You should pay attention to his signs and ahadith talking about the end times. His very very near.

2. The analogy that All muslims will join him is flawed and this will never happen. It's even mentioned or hinted at that muslims will attempt to eliminate him. These who will likely follow him are already these who volunteered and these like them will come out as usual to aid him. Where is muslims and where is the Ummah? Palestine, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya and Yeman happened? Nobody really came to aid these people except these who volunteer and unfortunately they are called very bad names today. These will always volunteer you can count on them regardless of the situation. These are mostly the people who will asist him while the others who work for the regimes like police forces, and Military will try to kill him. The Prophet(Sa) said he will even hide in the Kabah because his been hunting furiously by the muslims.

 

[azc]

This comment of yours indeed confirms that you have no clue whatsoever to the understanding of what i said. Anyways, May Allah give you understanding of it, a tip from my side to you.

The truth of the understanding lies in this in'sha'Allah.

"....Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves...." Qur'an 13:11

You''ve misconceptions about Hz imam mahdi RA that you consider him a fitnah? ???

In my opinion Hz imam mahdi RA is a rehmah for us ....!!!

Keep in mind, nobody will agree with you and your allegations on Him.

 

[sister herb]

1. His not Million years away and very close to his time and age. You should pay attention to his signs and ahadith talking about the end times. His very very near.

People in every times have said same. They have seen clear signs of end of the time. Our time isn´t exception.

As we don´t know how long time period we will have ahead of us as humankind, how you can say that million of years isn´t a short time?

 

[OmAbdullah]

He as well as dajjal well be HUGE fitna's for the people.

Dajjaal is a huge fitnah but Mahdi will be a blessing of Allah because he will fill up the land with peace and justice as it would be full of injustices (and bloodshed). In the present era the land is full of bloodshed and injustices. so we are restlessly waiting for Allah's Mercy to bring Mahdi and help him to stop the killing and wickedness and establish peace and Justice.

 

[urkahnkhan]

People in every times have said same. They have seen clear signs of end of the time. Our time isn´t exception.

As we don´t know how long time period we will have ahead of us as humankind, how you can say that million of years isn´t a short time?

You are a sister I don't see sins falling upon you for not aiding because it's not you job. Your a girl and financially assistance is what the ancient Sahabiyat use to do. But you should fear not. Your spared from such responisbility.

You''ve misconceptions about Hz imam mahdi RA that you consider him a fitnah? ???

In my opinion Hz imam mahdi RA is a rehmah for us ....!!!

Keep in mind, nobody will agree with you and your allegations on Him.

I saw the brothers reply it sure as hell came off very strange but I understand where his coming from. His against the wars, deaths, and other destructions that will happen. But he forgot that this WORLD is only creator like a test and we are generally not from here. If there is death then you should already know that your life term is nothing put a very very short test.

Life is not meant to be a place where you plant your seed forever or plan that way. Life wasen't meant to be a lavish and peaceful life with full of serentiy and tranquility. Life is so short you won't even believe it. 60-65 yrs is absolutely nothing. Nada. It was even designed in such way that the older you get your happiness will fade more and more as you will miss your old self.. You will also long for your prime-self

 

[AbdurRahman.]

it seems a couple of people misunderstood what i meant; hadith says Mahdi [as] will be recognised while performing tawaf around the Kaaba and muslims will give their allegience to him [ https://archive.org/stream/BahishtiZewar_201307/BahishtiZewar#page/n651/mode/2up ] ; this is what i meant by he wont be accompanied by a group

however hadith also mentions there will always be a rightly guided group of muslims on earth:

Ibn Taymiyya in his Aqeedat-il-Wasitiyyah (pg. 154): ​

" Their creed is the religion of Islam which was sent to the world by Allah through the Prophet (Peace be upon him). But the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said, 'My Ummah will get divided into 73 sects and each one will go to Hell save one and that one is the Jama'at.' Also in one Hadith he said, 'They are those people who will follow this path which I and my Sahaba follow today.' Therefore they have caught hold of Islam unalloyed from every adulteration and these are the people of Ahl as-Sunnah Wa'l Jama'ah. This group includes the truthful, the martyrs and the virtuous; it includes the minarets of guidance, lamps in the darkness and owners of such superiorities and virtues who have been already mentioned. It includes the saints and also those Imams on whose guidance Muslims are unanimous. It is this successful group about which the Prophet (Peace be upon him) has said: 'One group from my Ummah will always remain dominant with truth; the opponents will never be able to harm its members or afflict them upto the Doomsday.'"​

(2) Imam Muslim (Rahimahullah) :
'Uqba said,I heard the Prophet (Peace be upon him) say: A group of people from my Ummah will continue to fight in obedience to the Command of Allah, remaining dominant over their enemies. Those who will oppose them shall not do them any harm. They will remain in this condition until the Hour over takes them.' (Sahih Muslim, 3/4721, English ed'n, see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 9/414, English ed'n)

Imam Nawawi (d. 676/1277, Rahimahullah) said in his Sharh Muslim (vol. 2, pg. 143):

"The group of people (mentioned in the above Hadith) consists of scholars, jurisprudents, authorities on Hadith, those who enjoin Good (Maroof) and forbid Evil (Munkar) and all such persons who do good deeds. Such righteous persons may be found spread all over the world."


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Imam al-Tirmidhi (Rahimahullah) said:

"The explanation of al-Jama'ah according to the people of knowledge: They are the people of fiqh, knowledge and Hadith." (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 4/2167; Ahmad Shakir ed'n)


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Imam Bukhari (Rahimahullah) stated in his Sahih (vol. 9, chapter. 10, English ed'n),

"The statement of the Prophet (Peace be upon him): 'A group of my followers will remain victorious in their struggle in the cause of the Truth.' Those are the religious(ly) learned men (Ahl ul-Ilm)."


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Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Rahimahullah) said about this group:

"If it is not the people of Hadith, then I do not know who they may be." (Sahih Muslim Sharif-Mukhtasar Sharh Nawawi, vol. 5, pg. 183, W. Zaman)​

 

[whosebob]

There is only one athentic hadith about the Mahdi. Allah will change him in one night. He will be disobedient and make him obedient in one night.

You base your stories on this world. Their is unseen world. I have been fighting something for ten years. I am schizophrenic but it's more than a mental issue, it's a spiritual one as well. That's the fight that is happening now. I believe that Dajjal ordered these attacks. He can do horrible things to people but I also know Allah helps, mashallah. You talking about the illumati... How do think he controls the minds of the government. They don't evens know they under his control. That's how frikkish his power is. While you are debating, the war has been going on. Millions of soldiers and auliya kareem have fought in this battle. Some of us die, some are insane and others survive to fight the voices. There are to many to cope with but alhamdulliah with difficulty comes ease, mashallah. It's a harsh war because his ally is Iblis. Things will get better, while you argue from which group he is coming from, The Mahdi may already be here. He won't call you to war because his soldiers have already been chosen. Look at the Asylems and the mental hospitals, it is worst than a physical war because the torture goes on for so long. But Alhamdullilah, with difficulty there is ease.

 

[Abz2000]

The Muslim group......obviously

 

[anatolian]

From "the party of Allah" as Quran says

 

[STN]

We don't know, we will know when he comes. But i hope he doesn't in my time or my kids or grandkids time because that is also the time when repentance time would end.

Islam SubhanAllah is still strong and knowledge of Islam hasn't disappeared or mutilated. It seems like those times are coming because of what's happening in Israel with jews taking control, Saudi Arabia making arms deal with America (am i the only one that think this was wrong) and Muslim countries being ruled by corruptest leaders on earth. Oh and Anti-Islamic State slaughtering humans like we slaughter animals on Eid-ul-Azha - some renowned scholar in our country said Anti-Islamic State is one of prophecies coming true. They are fasadis - creating fasad in land and hurting Islam.