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The Khan said:
The two madhabs which are no more were Zahiri and Jariri. Zahiri is ultra-orthodox, even more so than the Hanbalis, and the Jariri was ultra-liberal, allowing women Imams to lead men in jamaat.

They died out due to their extreme views, unacceptable by most Muslims.
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Actually, the zahari madhab is making a comeback. With increased printing capabilities, the books of the madhab, mainly those of ibn Hazm, are become more widely available. I should know, I'm married to a zahari. Um yeah, it's interesting to say the least :enough!:
 
Janaan said:
Why? Following a madhab simply is putting my trust in a group of scholars who have had infinately more time and experience in examining the sources of sacred law than I have. The many of the scholars of these madhabs were hafiz of hadith, ie they had memorized over 100,000 with their chains of transmition. I don't know about you, but I don't have a dozen hadith memorized in english, let alone in arabic, let alone with their chains of transmition.

I'm a shafi'i, which means that when I want a legal opinion on something, I refer to shafi'i scholars. I know enough about their methodology and about their knowledge to trust their opinions. That's that.
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is it possible to take from all 4? like instead on sticking with one
 
maryam87 said:
is it possible to take from all 4? like instead on sticking with one
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I ditto what SixTen said. Because there are some instances where things are not clear, in that case...rather than taking fatwa's from here, there and everywhere....I find it makes more sense to look to the teachings of a particular madhab. Wallahu A'lam.

By here there and everywhere.. I dont mean to cause offence. I just mean that take it from all four schools of thought
 
theres nothing wrong with following a madhab but following one is not compulsory
 
amani said:
theres nothing wrong with following a madhab but following one is not compulsory
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*for a mujtahid



^ she forgot to add that part

no mujtahid has ever changed a madhab maybe clarified - added to it, therefore every muslim by default, follows a madhab
 
not necessarily, for example in my town there are mostly hanafis... two different types of hanafis both have some very opposing views and both with views from imam abu hanifa. bottom line is we always refer back to the Quran and sunnah in all matters
 
amani said:
not necessarily, for example in my town there are mostly hanafis... two different types of hanafis both have some very opposing views and both with views from imam abu hanifa. bottom line is we always refer back to the Quran and sunnah in all matters
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lol that doesnt go against what i said previously in the slightest

im well aware of the differing views within a madhab, thats why we have imaams and teachers.


DIY is worst idea
 
Mz said:
lol that doesnt go against what i said previously in the slightest

im well aware of the differing views within a madhab, thats why we have imaams and teachers.


DIY is worst idea
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yes diy isnt a good idea but not following a madhab doesnt = diy
 
Janaan said:
Actually, the zahari madhab is making a comeback. With increased printing capabilities, the books of the madhab, mainly those of ibn Hazm, are become more widely available. I should know, I'm married to a zahari. Um yeah, it's interesting to say the least :enough!:
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That's interesting.

The Salafi movement has a lot of Zahari ideology too.
 
Mz said:
oh?

either your diy or following a diy

one of those two
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so long as its backed upwith the Quran and Sunnah and not this scholar said so so it must be true.
 
amani said:
so long as its backed upwith the Quran and Sunnah and not this scholar said so so it must be true.
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that wasnt that clear, are you saying that if you dotn follow a madhab but refer to the Quran and Sunnah and scholars who dont follow a madhab, that isnt DIY?
 
Mz said:
that wasnt that clear, are you saying that if you dotn follow a madhab but refer to the Quran and Sunnah and scholars who dont follow a madhab, that isnt DIY?
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im saying there is nothing wrong with following a madhab so long as you dont reject everything else even when what may be 'in a madhab' is not according to the Quran and Sunnah. And that is not DIY.
 
The thing is though, that oftentime there are seemingly conflicing ahadith. One can't simply flip through a book of al bukhari in english, or even arabic, find a single hadith, and say, ah the sunnah says so!

Someone posted this link earlier - http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/LegalStatusOfFollowingAMadhab.pdf - and on page 7, there's an excellent example re: reciting behind an imam in prayer. There are several ahadith that seem to contradict each other. We rely on the scholars who are have more knowledge and experience to know all of these hadith to work and reconcile them to create a ruling for us.

Until you know the reason behind a ruling in a particular madhab, you shouldn't reject it simply because it doesn't fit the Qur'an and Sunnah in from your point of view.
 
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im saying there is nothing wrong with following a madhab so long as you dont reject everything else even when what may be 'in a madhab' is not according to the Quran and Sunnah. And that is not DIY.
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The teachings of the madhabs are in accordance to the Qur'an and sunnah. Their may be scholars with differeing opinions but they can't consider the madhabs of any wrong - as they have been carefully formulated to adhere to the Qur'an and Sunnah.
 
Until you know the reason behind a ruling in a particular madhab, you shouldn't reject it simply because it doesn't fit the Qur'an and Sunnah in from your point of view.
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Nor can you claim its correct without having the knowledge of its background
 
^ with utmost respect to you bro ....

surely the Hanafi, Hambali, Shaafi'i, Maaliki madhaahib are all the DIY of our great scholars ...?
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I am not sure what you meant - but no one has been given the title of absolute mujtahid, after them.
 
Janaan said:
The thing is though, that oftentime there are seemingly conflicing ahadith. One can't simply flip through a book of al bukhari in english, or even arabic, find a single hadith, and say, ah the sunnah says so!

Someone posted this link earlier - http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/LegalStatusOfFollowingAMadhab.pdf - and on page 7, there's an excellent example re: reciting behind an imam in prayer. There are several ahadith that seem to contradict each other. We rely on the scholars who are have more knowledge and experience to know all of these hadith to work and reconcile them to create a ruling for us.

Until you know the reason behind a ruling in a particular madhab, you shouldn't reject it simply because it doesn't fit the Qur'an and Sunnah in from your point of view.
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yes definitely and i am not in any way putting down the scholars who gave their lives to studying the deen. nor am i rejecting the four imams of fiqh
i AM rejecting blindly following a ruling because its 'hanafi' or 'shafi' and there is not back up.. not from the imams themselves nor from the Quran and Sunnah..

The teachings of the madhabs are in accordance to the Qur'an and sunnah. Their may be scholars with differeing opinions but they can't consider the madhabs of any wrong - as they have been carefully formulated to adhere to the Qur'an and Sunnah.
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ive said it before and ill say it again i am all for the 4 imams of fiqh.. however would u reject a pious scholar for a ruling because hes of the wrong madhab? or he does somethign that conflicts with your madhab?
 
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