Make Me A Muslim . . . .

[thirdwatch512]

Also one thing confused me about 'Make Me A Muslim', The gay man... I dont know fully the rules, But I do know Muslims arent allowed to be gay, Im sure thats Haram right? So if that man had become Muslim, would he have been a gay Muslim? or a former gay man who is now Muslim? Cos Im thinkin he doesnt have much choice as to his sexual preference, so the whole finding him a wife thing would have been folly in my eyes...

I myself am gay, and I certainly did not choose it. I almost converted to Judaism once, and Judaism has similar views on homosexuality.. In the torah, the punishment for gay sex is death. In the qu'ran, if they are married to other women, it is death, if not, then lashes. So the rulings are both pretty harsh. And, that was the only reason that stopped me from becomming a Jew. Had judaism been gay friends, I would have very quickly converted. (That is not to say that jews in general are a lot more gay friendly. I have many jewish friends who are extremely gay friendly, and in israel it is a crime to discriminate someone off of orientation, and reform and conservative judaism recognize gay rabbi's. But, the torah is still clear on the punishment, whether one wishes to change the interpretation or not.. Leviticus 20!)

I bet that if islam was gay friendly, he would become a muslim!

It is really hard for one to tell you that you can not be with who you love.. that you have to be either celibate(for christianity and judaism) or marry someone who you do not love(in islam, it seems.) I wonder if one could be gay and muslim, even if they still commit zina? I suppose it would be better then comitting shirk or unbelief, hey? Ah, I am not a muslim so will not make such assumptions.

anyways, I watched the three episodes today on youtube because someone suggested me to. It was a pretty good series! But it does show how hard it is for a westerner to change their ways to be muslims. It personally made me be more sympathetic to converts, who have had to make such drastic changes but not only for 3 weeks, but for the rest of their lives!

 

[Sahabiyaat]

i am awfully sorry to shock u but islam isnt christianity!!

There is no way were going to becum gay friendly, alcohol tolerant etc...just to get more followers! (thats the role of the churches)

i agree its hard to accept Islam (as it is) for reverts,but thats the only way it can be accepted. Its expects you to come clean of what it forbids, not incorporate the sins.What would be the point of Islam then???.it would become something else altogether.

 

[x-samia-x]

I think certain bits were to be excluded from the show. For example tid bits from their life before this programme. Tying to watch it with my dad, my mum, and my 13 years-old sis who seems to know way more than I knew at the age, was pretty tough. I had to keep on changing channels and going red every ime "dodgy" bits popped in. They pixelated the bits but the kids know what its hiding. It doesn't help much.

The programme was way too confusing. One moment I see a member condemning Islam, and the next, they're saying what a wonderful religion it is. And I just sat there and thought: "What the chocolate?".

But I must say, the best person out of the lot was Luke. I loved it when he went to the party and yet he took time out to pray. I found his reading of the surah Fatihah quite cute.

The mentors except Ajmal were all crap at presenting Islam properly. When talking about homosexuality, I found Suleyman saying that it just isn't accepted in Islam. He didn't bother explaining properly why it wasn't allowed.

Reasoning with Phil, the athiest, the other Imaam started to quote the Bible. For God's sake, he's not preaching christianity here. And Phil isn't likely to take it as a reason because he's an athiest. Sheesh.

Gah. Not an excellent programme, though it's an ice breaker as it quite didn't present Islam as badly as the media usually does.

yeh i definitely agree with u sis, but i think it showed these muslims as not being open-minded and knowing enough and the right things about their religion. i was getting fustrated sitting ther.. it cud have been done so much better. nevermind...

 

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Whoops missed it... So when is the next one coming on?

 

[chacha_jalebi]

^ they have finished now sis


and seeing as the program is over nothing more to discuss :threadclo

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