Martial Arts!

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erm erm erm poke someones eyes if you get close enough:D Really tickles the one being poked, but dont wait around to see them laugh lol

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lol :giggling:

But i want to be able to not have to run! i want to be able to have to wait around until the ambulance come to collect you :D
 
Learn an art that is functionally practical in everyday life

:sl: to sisters and brothers who are interested in martial arts and to students in their respective art. My opinions are not facts, by the way, so if I offend anyone it's not my intention to do so. In case you're all wondering, I'm a student of Kempo Jiu Jitsu. It has its roots in Okinawan and Hawaiian jiu jitsu and is open to variation in techniques. I wouldn't say it's a formal art but more of a close quarter combat (CQC) system. I am taught to not end up on the ground with the opponent and to get back up in case that happens while restraining them with a joint lock. Note that in the U.S., a citizen has the right to exercise self-defense, with reasonable force, in a physical confrontation. This notion may be contested differently, depending on the circumstance, by U.S. court judges and in other countries.

It's quite humorous that some of you think that one hit knockouts (*cough* *cough* Karate *cough* *cough*) and crescent kicks will end a fight. Unless your opponent has the coordination of a sloth, your concept of fighting may end up back firing on you. Taekwondo was developed by the Koreans as a sport to sell their culture. Instead of the trying to be flashy with flexibility, I'd rather learn Taekkyeon. I'll give a nod to Muay Thai/Thai kickboxing since the rigorous conditioning regime is quite good, but it depends on the quality of the instructor and the school. Ring fighting and dojos have rules and safety measures to protect the individual in a controlled setting. On the street, do some of you think that you'll be granted the same safety measures?

The Gracies, who founded Brazilian ground grappling (I won't call it Brazilian Jiu Jitsu since the art solely focuses on one component of Judo and that is ne-waza or ground work), like to mislead unsuspecting people by stating that 90% of fights go to the ground. It's a grossly exaggerated claim, and it's an unethical marketing tactic for instructors to get more students and more money. A police officer was brave enough to do some deep digging and question the claim (Budo Blog: 90% of all fights go to the ground.....Really?). Note that the study used data from the Los Angeles police department and is not representative of other police departments across the U.S.

The student learning any art can be proficient depending on how much effort, devotion, and seriousness he/she puts into their practice. However, speaking as a student, learning techniques does not make you invincible and untouchable when it comes to self defense. It takes patience, intuition, common sense, and discipline to understand limitations of one's abilities and their respective art. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Moses Powell (founder of Sanuces Ryu Jiu Jitsu):

“There is really no such thing as the best style or discipline when it comes to self-defense, all disciplines have something valuable to offer and have their flaws. A student who practices karate will only help to enhance his capabilities if he or she is enrolled in a boxing class, Kung Fu class, Jujitsu or other discipline.

Each Martial Arts system should be considered a support system for all disciplines. If a judo practitioner approaches you, and applies the principle of Kuzushi, or breaking the balance, you will undoubtedly be in trouble. If you are faced with someone who’s really skilled at using his legs and you are not skilled at closing the gap between you and that person, its going to be “a rough day.”

When I asked Dr. Powell about grappling, he commented,” grappling is very effective, but is only practical when you are fighting one person. Even when you are applying sacrifice throws this is only practical when you do not have to be concerned about a group of people attacking you. The best fighter is the one who has kicking skills, grappling skills, boxing skills, and the most important skill, the ability to remain calm in the midst of battle.”

Dr. Powell expounded on the realities of Dojo training and actually defending one’s self in a truly hostile environment. “There are many Dojo warriors, but very few street warriors. It takes heart to defend yourself, especially when the odds seem to be against you.” Being a superstar in the Dojo means nothing unless you can apply those same quality skills in an uncontrolled, dangerous situation. Being good at performing Katas or forms and not being good at fighting is an obvious unbalance. It is my own opinion that man’s greatest enemy is his own self-delusion. Wearing a belt around your waist, regardless of its color does not guarantee proficiency. It is hard work and humility of mind that molds the true warrior; not laziness and arrogance.’
(End of excerpt)

So, in the interest of keeping my rant short, forget watching UFC and televised "fighting leagues" and don't take filmed choreographed violence and fight scenes for granted. Brute strength and uncontrolled aggression can only take you so far. There will be always someone physically stronger than you. The techniques in using an opponent's force or leverage against them will always work if used correctly. Again, just because you learn a martial art does not make you successful in every physical confrontation. Human aggression and fighting are unpredictable and the degree of severity varies. You will always fear for your life, and you cannot suppress such an instinct when your life is threatened. There is always a chance that you will get bruised, cut up, or injured.

The Qadr is with Allah (SWT).
 
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I did judo for a few years and I was/am pretty good at ne-waza.
I stopped after having a nagging injury but later on I trained with some Gracie jiu jitsu school and did surprisingly well.
Even beat a brown belt in my first randori/rolling session. He got upset and was arguing that I should not have worn a white belt, as I had obviously studied GJJ/BJJ.
It was pretty funny but I explained to him that I had done judo but had not trained in a couple of years and had never done GJJ/BJJ

I am a fan of MMA, mostly.
Used to follow k-1, boxing and so on.
Always wanted to train boxing but I messed up my neck as someone drove into the side of my car.
 
Even beat a brown belt in my first randori/rolling session. He got upset and was arguing that I should not have worn a white belt, as I had obviously studied GJJ/BJJ.
It was pretty funny but I explained to him that I had done judo but had not trained in a couple of years and had never done GJJ/BJJ

I'm guessing you used the principles of tai sabaki and kuzushi to their fullest? I'm not sure how I would fare on the ground but I would try to be patient enough to not struggle and basically keep moving while being aware of how my limbs are exposed.

I think the problem with the mentality of many students of Bgg (Brazilian ground grappling) is that they don't have humility or humbleness, are overly aggressive, and impatient. I guess it's just the way the school markets itself or that the instructors like to boast every single teaching session. I may sound bigoted, but the Gracies forgot to throw away their Italian machismo (being macho) when they learned judo from Maeda and passed on their teachings. But then Maeda was a prize fighter and he may have enabled this sort of attitude. I think the principles of honor and spirit of jujutsu (pre-Meiji jujutsu) were not incorporated into judo (Kano Jigoro considered judo as jujutsu at the time even though he took out a lot of techniques from classical jujutsu) after it was made to appear less 'savage' in order to appease the West.
 
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I'm guessing you used the principles of tai sabaki and kuzushi to their fullest? I'm not sure how I would fare on the ground but I would try to be patient enough to not struggle and basically keep moving while being aware of how my limbs are exposed.

I think the problem with the mentality of many students of BGG (Brazilian ground grappling) is that they don't have humility or humbleness, are overly aggressive, and impatient. I guess it's just the way the school markets itself or that the instructors like to boast every single teaching session. I may sound bigoted, but the Gracies forgot to throw away their Italian machismo (being macho) when they learned Judo from Maeda and passed on their teachings. But then Maeda was a prize fighter and he may have enabled this sort of attitude. I think the principles of honor and spirit of jujutsu (bujutsu) was not incorporated into Judo after it was made to appear less 'savage' in order to appease the West.

The brown belt that was in GJJ was trying to play a traditional guard game.
I passed the guard by controlling his legs and passing to side mount.
Then I mounted him surprisingly easily, controlled the head from the mount.

I can´t post a picture of the position, since I am a limited member and I am awful with names. I have forgotten the japanese name of the pin.

You basically get mount, lie down to control the head. Put your legs under his legs and spread the legs of the opponents out by spreading your legs out as you hook the opponents.
He was helpless, trying to kick out the legs but it is hard to get out of the position if the head is controlled well.
I thought about a collar choke but the pin worked so well, there was no need.

I agree with your thoughts about Maeda. It is often forgotten that with the judo rules, you have to act explosive and within such a short time - while JJ is often about getting in a not too bad situation and survive.
Both are great though.
 
The brown belt that was in GJJ was trying to play a traditional guard game.
I passed the guard by controlling his legs and passing to side mount.
Then I mounted him surprisingly easily, controlled the head from the mount.

You basically get mount, lie down to control the head. Put your legs under his legs and spread the legs of the opponents out by spreading your legs out as you hook the opponents.
He was helpless, trying to kick out the legs but it is hard to get out of the position if the head is controlled well.
I thought about a collar choke but the pin worked so well, there was no need.

I think what you described is called tate shiho hiza hishigi.
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I think what you described is called tate shiho hiza hishigi.

Yes. Thank you. Exactly that.
It was funny pinning a brown belt in GJJ with it, as I never used it in judo.
When I think about, I don't see it used too much.
 
Hard? Naw not really but much like any martial arts it takes much practice, focus, and determination. Anything will become difficult with the wrong mind set and lack of focus and determination. If you understand what youre being taught then its easy, the hard part is practicing it over and over and over again to master the thing.

A master in taekwondo whom name i cant recall right now once said

"Don't fear the man who practiced a thousand kicks once, but fear the man who practised one kick a thousand times"

and this is the case with anything you learn in any form of martial arts. Plus generally once you learn the basics everything is pretty much added on to that and you just learn new ways, or just more in general.

Anyone is welcome to add to this, or differ even.

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Sister, I agree with your points that you've made about learning an art. Once the basics become second nature to you, you just get more creative in implementing techniques.

Have you heard of ninjutsu? Jujutsu and ninjutsu share similar core aspects but differ in their strategies and implementation of techniques.

There's a clip of Master Ali Abdul Karim showing basic body movements (Tai sabaki: Defeating grabs with free movement tactics - YouTube). You may think it's a halfhearted display of joint locks but do you really think the techniques would be demonstrated to their fullest effect? If so, the student would probably be out of commission for months because broken or severely sprained joints take time to heal. The harder you resist during a restraining joint lock, the more pain you'll experience.
 
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