Medicine or teacher

[جوري]

Samiro, if u had a fish which was sick because of contaminated water, would u give it a drug or change the water?

I am baffled at why you'd think that Medicine which is an evidence based science would be merely about giving a drug out, further baffled at why you'd make a promise such as this

I promise you will get far better results with your patients than you will by prescribing a drug. :hmm:

We actually have to take separate courses now to learn of the ills of these so-called herbs which not only interact with tried and proven drugs but cause an onslaught of side effects so horrible all their own.. I am by God happy that you've found your niche but I think it is very bad advise to define a science which you haven't studied with such narrow terms or tell someone who has worked hard to get into a very challenging and very rewarding career to go into something that' clearly not accepted by a governing body or people at large.. There's room for 'holistic' medicine and I use that term with caution but it isn't a substitute for evidence based medicine..

 

[جوري]

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lol dont be baffled, ofcourse its not merely about giving a drug, but there seems to be quite a lot of emphasis on treating with drugs... whereas in Holistic medicine, more emphasis is laid on changing the water.. that is the primary treatment. n maj of times it shows such good results.. that a drug is not even neccessary..

Wa3lykoum asalaam wr wb,

No! Emphasis isn't on prescribing some meds, emphasis is on doing what is best for the patient by offering the latest in scientific and medical technology while respecting the autonomy of the patient so that s/he can make an informed decision!

Anyways, that scenario was given to help people understand what is meant by holistic treatment, because some of us seem to have misunderstood.. thinking it causes more harm.. They should ask themselves.. does changing the contaminated water cause the fish more harm ? :hmm:

In fact I changed the contaminated water for my beta fish once and it went belly up three hours later.. not filtering its own filth kept it alive, putting fresh water in killed it, and that is because I had no understanding of the science behind what should keep it alive (this is a true story) and not for the purpose of this post!

lol I just gave her an alternative option after she said her entry exam for medical school didnt go to well. So I said to her if her interest and passion is in being a practioner, then why not explore other areas in that field instead of leaving medicine altogether. Ofcourse, it would be ideal if a person qualified as a medical doctor, and then went further to study alternative medicine too (esp nutrition), no one is objecting against that.

Al7mdlillah she did well and got accepted into a good choice!

Anyways, she has chosen dentistry mashaAllaah. I wish her the best.

ameen

An effective treatment is not neccessarily that which is accepted by the governing body, but its that which is accepted by the human body. And like Dr Paavo Airola stated "If the doctors of today dont become the nutritionsists of tommorow, then the nutritionists of today will be the doctors of tommorow.

Indeed.. I'd love to encounter that wonder nutrition or holistic approach that would rid us of cancer, rabies or even the common cold.. I suspect that the holistic institution would gain more credibility and popularity. Believe me I am not against holistic medicine.. just encountered loads of quacks who speak of things that have no basis in science, human physiology, genetics, biochemistry or anatomy..

 

[GuestFellow]

Salaam,

Speaking of medicine, do anti-depressants actually help those who are suffering from depression?

 

[جوري]

Salaam,

Speaking of medicine, do anti-depressants actually help those who are suffering from depression?

It depends but an independent NIH study proved that placebo fared better than antidepressants and their so-called 'holistic alternative' St. John's wort which by the way works just like the tricyclic class of antidepressant. Which are obsolete and have a host of side effects. I recommend cognitive behavior therapy for depression and this book
http://www.amazon.com/When-Panic-At...083X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314562960&sr=8-1
which focuses on a drug free approach to deal with anxiety and depression..

and Allah swt knows best

 

[gladTidings]

This is a good anti-depressant

I agree with the Shaykh, anti-depressants are merely masking agents. Its all about keeping the right company and recognising goodness in our affairs.