Men can marry 4 times - any conditions?

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You know it is strange because I was not brought up in an islamic society or home but I would consider polygamy. Even if i didn't convert i never thought it was a bad idea. Men will most likely cheat and I rather know who the woman is and be okay with it then one I have no clue about. There are many reasons for this that i do not think I have to go into.
 
Selam aleykum,

MashaAllah, great post sis Malaikah!!
 
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I know what u mean,. but islamically speaking it sounds selfish.
You dont have to be friends with ur husbands new wife, just think that he is a man afterall and he need not reciprocate ur feelings by nature. Thats the basic difference between men and women. We all women need to face that i guess.

:cry: i supose. bt wt if u dnt get on wid ur hubby once his marid again? jus wondering generali im nt even marid so dnt knw wt itd feel lyk 2 marid inda 1st place lol.
 
salam

sister Malaikah.. i think sister S.A meant she is against the marriage clause or sumfing.. not the husband marrying more than once. (i think neway)

I am totally against it - marriage contract clause and that court thing. Really repulsive!

w'salam
 
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so....anyone got the answer to the origianl post.
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Yes. I had posted the original post - and I did get the answer to my query thanks to you all.
 
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:sl: everyone,

Hope everyone is doing fine inshallah.

I have signed up for one Arabic course. So yesterday during the class the instructor brought up the topic of how some arab women refuse to let their husbands marry 2nd, 3rd, or 4th times and that it is wrong and etc. I felt something was wrong in what he said so I said that there are some conditions that should be considered by men before opting for more than 1 marriage.

Actually, I said that because i had read somewhere or heard from some sheikh i think on tv that it is preferred that men marry more than 1 times only in case they are pleased physically from their wive(s), or his current wife's health is always very unstable - so to take care of her - or some other reasons i do not remember. But i am def sure i have read/heard these cirsumstances.

But then again i found Surah Nisa in Ayah 3 - 5 which said that men should marry more than 1 wife. If they feel they wont be able to treat them equally only in that case men should marry only once.

Now iam confused. Does anyone know about the conditions that i have mentioned above? Any clarifications?

As salam alaikum.

Asalama alakum
yes... a man is allowed 2 marry up 2 4 wives at the same time provided he:
- spends equall time with all of them
-can provide for all of them

others it is adviced they stick to 1 wife if they cannot follow the above 2
 
these days i hear ppl saying oh im got get 4 wifes more fun this and that...
thats kind of abusing what the quran says isnt it? if u kno what i mean?

if ur just doing it for the pleasure? or is that allowed if u can support them all?

excuse me if im wrong :)
 
You are allowed to make it a condition in the marriage pact though

And there was that hadith something like this:
Ali (ra) wanted to marry again but Fatima (ra) was upset by it. So he went to the prophet (saw) and told him. And the prophet (saw) said that if she is upset then he would be upset- so Ali (ra) didn't.

:D yep dat's smart
 
these days i hear ppl saying oh im got get 4 wifes more fun this and that...
thats kind of abusing what the quran says isnt it? if u kno what i mean?

if ur just doing it for the pleasure? or is that allowed if u can support them all?

excuse me if im wrong :)

tell me about it....imsad
 
these days i hear ppl saying oh im got get 4 wifes more fun this and that...
thats kind of abusing what the quran says isnt it? if u kno what i mean?

if ur just doing it for the pleasure? or is that allowed if u can support them all?

excuse me if im wrong :)

you can do it for pleasure also, so long as you treat them justly and give them their equal rights.
 
you can do it for pleasure also, so long as you treat them justly and give them their equal rights.

really u can do it for the pleasure?

i thought it was only allowed if like a women was a widow or something wasnt able to support her family etc?

u got any source bro


ima getting me 4 wifes then :D
joking
 
really u can do it for the pleasure?

i thought it was only allowed if like a women was a widow or something wasnt able to support her family etc?

u got any source bro


ima getting me 4 wifes then :D
joking

It's not that easy bro. You gota make your first marriage as islamically perfect in regards to following sunnah and being just. Marriage for pleasure/lust is allowed so that you make the woman your wife so you don't go committing adultery and so she gets her rights. But if you treat your first wife the right way then pleasure in first marriage shouldn't be an issue :okay:

go to islamqa.com and type in polygamy, see what you get it
 
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what gets to me is that when the husband annouces that hes goning to get married again, he first wife insists on divorce. i am i can understand her hurt, etc. but what if the husbanfd actually listemned to her, (ie kept the first wife and didn't divorce her), but yet was still attracted to the other. i can only image that that would lead him to the haraam, or atleasst would want him too!
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really u can do it for the pleasure?

i thought it was only allowed if like a women was a widow or something wasnt able to support her family etc?

u got any source bro


ima getting me 4 wifes then :D
joking

Yes. You can do it for pleasure as well provided.

You are able to treat all of them equally so far as financial and sexual support is concerned.

The source is the ayahs of the Surah Nisa - 3 to 5 - the detailed explanation has already been posted by someone in this thread i guess.
 
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what gets to me is that when the husband annouces that hes goning to get married again, he first wife insists on divorce. i am i can understand her hurt, etc. but what if the husbanfd actually listemned to her, (ie kept the first wife and didn't divorce her), but yet was still attracted to the other. i can only image that that would lead him to the haraam, or atleasst would want him too!
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Yup.
 
[SIZE=+1]Polygamy - Definition and Guidelines[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]by Zakir Naik[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1. Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse. Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islam, limited polygyny is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Now coming to the original question, why is a man allowed to have more than one wife?[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]2. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says, "marry only one".[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Many Hindu religious personalities, according to their scriptures, had multiple wives. King Dashrat, the father of Rama, had more than one wife. Krishna had several wives.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (960 C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.[/SIZE]



[SIZE=-1]3. Hindus are more polygynous than Muslims[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66 and 67 that the percentage of polygamous marriages between the years 1951 and 1961 was 5.06% among the Hindus and only 4.31% among the Muslims. According to Indian law only Muslim men are permitted to have more than one wife. It is illegal for any non-Muslim in India to have more than one wife. Despite it being illegal, Hindus have more multiple wives as compared to Muslims. Earlier, there was no restriction even on Hindu men with respect to the number of wives allowed. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed that it became illegal for a Hindu to have more than one wife. At present it is the Indian Law that restricts a Hindu man from having more than one wife and not the Hindu scriptures.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Let us now analyse why Islam allows a man to have more than one wife.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]4. Qur’an permits limited polygyny[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an: "Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one." [Al-Qur’an 4:3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Before the Qur’an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says: "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women...." [Al-Qur’an 4:129][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](i) ‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](ii) ‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](iii) ‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](iv) ‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](v) ‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.[/SIZE]



[SIZE=-1]5. Average life span of females is more than that of males[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]6. India has more male population than female due to female foeticide and infanticide[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]India is one of the few countries, along with the other neighbouring countries, in which the female population is less than the male population. The reason lies in the high rate of female infanticide in India, and the fact that more than one million female foetuses are aborted every year in this country, after they are identified as females. If this evil practice is stopped, then India too will have more females as compared to males.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]7. World female population is more than male population[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]8. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option besides remaining lonely. All those who are modest will opt for the first.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.[/SIZE]
 
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