Modern Day Hijab : What is even the point?

[CuriousonTruth]

Okay. So this is related to some "activity" I have seen in the university but I know for a fact that this problem is around the world.

What I don't understand is why do women wear the hijab or scarf or whatever while at the same time have make up, boyfriend's, dance in fests or programmes in front of everyone. They are basically everything that secular girls do if not worse things. No really what is the point? Can someone here make sense of this because I cant.

Look I think those who are secular or irreligious should dress accordingly. Bangladesh is a secular state, no one will criticize them if they dress like Indians or westerners. And it would be better if they commit all the sins they want in mini-skirt rather than doing under the guise of being religious.

I hate hypocrites. They are worse than Communists.

 

[Saeeda Shaikh]

Well, some girls wear Hijab with sincerity definitely will earn reward InshaAllah, while some wear just for name sake. That has became the norm and culture of the society. Its due to lack of true knowledge of Islam. These girls wear Hijab to obey their parents but fail to respect it. Awareness is very important about Hijab. Because our each act represent Islam.

 

[CuriousonTruth]

Well, some girls wear Hijab with sincerity definitely will earn reward InshaAllah, while some wear just for name sake. That has became the norm and culture of the society. Its due to lack of true knowledge of Islam. These girls wear Hijab to obey their parents but fail to respect it. Awareness is very important about Hijab. Because our each act represent Islam.

This is where you are wrong. They don't do it for parents, because in a liberal society like Bangladesh, there is no force or coercion in religion. They wear because they say it's stylish, and honestly we have western hijabi fashionists to blame for this, they were the ones who started this hijab fashion business.

It wasn't always like this. 10 years ago only genuinely conservative, religious women wore it, so they were fewer in number. But atleast one could safely assume they were cpnservative. But now that everyone and their mothers wear and bring all tehir garbage habits with it, it has started a really bad niche.

 

[Saeeda Shaikh]

But here in India, Muslim girls are wearing Hijab with all its criteria and even veil properly. Not like 80/90 decades where few Muslims girls used to wear in schools and colleges. Here Islamic organisation/centre played a major role to change the mindset of youth. Now mostly girls wear with their own choice and consent. Many observe Hijab at work or office execpt some where it's not allowed.

 

[Mayameen]

Whoever Allah guides no one can lead astray, whoever Allah leaves astray no one can guide. As muslim we can warn our sisters and brothers, advise them and remind them, but if they chose disobedience. It will fall on them, either Allah will guide them to repentance or let them to continue to go astray. There's no complusion in Islam, you give the dawah, and live your life according to the Qur'an and sunnah. This is why there are increase in war, proverty, changes in the weather and fitna amongst the muslim community, because so many are falling in major sins or increasing in minor sins. Allah is calling muslims to repentance, so He sends test,trials and calamities. Also theses are the sign of the last days, where muslims follow after nonmuslim and abandon Islam except those whom Allah keeps. Allah warns us in Qur'an
Rivalry in worldly increase distracts you (from the remembrance of Allah), till you come to the graves” (102: 1-2).

 

[CuriousonTruth]

But here in India, Muslim girls are wearing Hijab with all its criteria and even veil properly. Not like 80/90 decades where few Muslims girls used to wear in schools and colleges. Here Islamic organisation/centre played a major role to change the mindset of youth. Now mostly girls wear with their own choice and consent. Many observe Hijab at work or office execpt some where it's not allowed.

Even in university? Have you seen their activities are in universities, especially those related to "cultural" groups.

 

[anatolian]

Some wear it to obey their husbands, parents or community. It turns to a cultural element. These ones shouldnt be considered hypocrites I believe as they are somehow mentally forced to do it. Also in the sharia countries they are legally have to wear it regardless of their preference.

But we have another group who do it for the sake of a materialist benefit. We mostly see this in the secular countries that are ruled by Islamist parties as in the example of today’s Turkey. Some women wear hijab here in my country just to have adventage for being selected for some positions because non hijabis are disregarded by the government and their company many times. I think these ones can be considered hypocrites regarding this issue.

On the other hand we also have women who wear hijab just for the sake of their religion. These are the real heros

 

[Mayameen]

Some wear it to obey their husbands, parents or community. It turns to a cultural element. These ones shouldnt be considered hypocrites I believe as they are somehow mentally forced to do it. Also in the sharia countries they are legally have to wear it regardless of their preference.

But we have another group who do it for the sake of a materialist benefit. We mostly see this in the secular countries that are ruled by Islamist parties as in the example of today’s Turkey. Some women wear hijab here in my country just to have adventage for being selected for some positions because non hijabis are disregarded by the government and their company many times. I think these ones can be considered hypocrites regarding this issue.

On the other hand we also have women who wear hijab just for the sake of their religion. These are the real heros

So, true

 

[CuriousonTruth]

Some wear it to obey their husbands, parents or community. It turns to a cultural element. These ones shouldnt be considered hypocrites I believe as they are somehow mentally forced to do it. Also in the sharia countries they are legally have to wear it regardless of their preference.

But we have another group who do it for the sake of a materialist benefit. We mostly see this in the secular countries that are ruled by Islamist parties as in the example of today’s Turkey. Some women wear hijab here in my country just to have adventage for being selected for some positions because non hijabis are disregarded by the government and their company many times. I think these ones can be considered hypocrites regarding this issue.

On the other hand we also have women who wear hijab just for the sake of their religion. These are the real heros

Bangladesh is not Turkey, Bangladesh has been ruled by radical secularists for more than decade. And except for madrasa students, no one forces anyone to wear hijab.

That is the whole point of my post.

Btw an actress recently said she doesn't believe in religion. No one publicly condemned her. And I honestly respect that atheist more than the hypocritic two faced people.

If they want to be irreligious or want to be western, they are free - no one is stopping them least of all in a University.

Then why do they keep insisting on wearing hijab and also doing all types of sins. Wear a mini-skirt and sin all you want I don't care.

 

[Mayameen]

They're sinning against Allah, thats who they need to fear. Allah says if you have no haya(modesty) than do what you like

 

[Saeeda Shaikh]

Even in university? Have you seen their activities are in universities, especially those related to "cultural" groups.

Yes, Alhamdulilah in universities and colleges as well They observe hijab with appropriate Islamic behavior and conduct. On Woman's/Valantine day these girls and woman participate to convey the message of Islam to non Muslims/Muslim (don't wear) with the slogan that Hijab is my pride. And conducted Hijab Awareness campaign.

 

[CuriousonTruth]

Yes, Alhamdulilah in universities and colleges as well They observe hijab with appropriate Islamic behavior and conduct. On Woman's/Valantine day these girls and woman participate to convey the message of Islam to non Muslims/Muslim (don't wear) with the slogan that Hijab is my pride. And conducted Hijab Awareness campaign.

If you say so, sounds improbable to me during BJP rule.

 

[Insaanah]

Part of the problem may be our perception of what hijaab is. Nowadays, it tends to be viewed as a piece of cloth on the head. A woman who wears this is referred to as "wearing hijaab".

But hijaab is much more than this. It encompasses our demeanour and behaviour and the entire way we are dressed, around non-mahrams. It might be helpful to view it as a state, not a garment.

So, if a person wears a piece of cloth on the head but is wearing tight or short sleeved clothes and/or makeup, then they can be referred to as wearing a headscarf, but perhaps not as being in a state of hijaab.

The same way that ihraam is popularly referred to as two white sheets worn by men for hajj or umrah, but actually those two garments are just one part of a total state of being, which includes not cutting ones hair or nails, not killing any animals and not engaging in certain other types of behaviour.

Insha'Allah if people know the totality of what hijaab encompasses, then we will see less of the situation described above.

 

[Saeeda Shaikh]

If you say so, sounds improbable to me during BJP rule.

Yes, it's the right/choice of the citizens what they want to wear. At the same time you are not forcing someone to wear but you can exhibit it. That's the different thing.

 

[xboxisdead]

Personally...I hate hypocrites or two faced fox. I prefer if 80% of men and women who are disbelievers or hypocrites or non-religious or feminist or secular or whatever just to come out and not hide. We want your true identity to come out. Homosexuals and lesbians, transexuals alike. Please come out and express who you are publicly. This way we can finally separate the good doers from the evil doers. I prefer our brothers choices of a good wife be limited to 15% and from there they get to pick their mate over thinking only 15% are bad and the rest are good and then build a family based on lies without them knowing it.

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In Canada so many muslim sisters wear "hijab" but are dressed but naked at the same time to sexually attract men. Those women where the smell of paradise are forbidden for them. I take the word "forbidden" serious...what about you sisters? Do you take the word "forbidden" seriously?

For a group of people who are smarter than me and who never stop reminding me how inferior I am in intellect in medias and social groups and society in general...you seem to be contradicting that with your actions. But..what do I know?

 

[alfaqir]

It depends on how you view it, is the glass half full or half empty? I think it is still better if they wear the scarf with make up on their face than to have make up and no scarf at all. It is still a step toward modesty, i personally appreciate even these small steps in this materialist age. Then we don't know what is their niyet anyways, Allah Teala sees their heart and will jugde their deeds.

 

[ZeeshanParvez]

Then why do they keep insisting on wearing hijab and also doing all types of sins. Wear a mini-skirt and sin all you want I don't care.

So, your argument is either be perfect or be totally bad?

All or none law?

 

[CuriousonTruth]

It depends on how you view it, is the glass half full or half empty? I think it is still better if they wear the scarf with make up on their face than to have make up and no scarf at all. It is still a step toward modesty, i personally appreciate even these small steps in this materialist age. Then we don't know what is their niyet anyways, Allah Teala sees their heart and will jugde their deeds.

I respectfully disagree. There is nothing in their behaviour that is remotely "modest". Trust me on that.

 

[BeTheChange]

Asalamualykum

It's the same for the beard. You can't assume one is growing his beard only for religious reasons. Sometimes it happens to be a fashion statement. Living in fitna times.

 

[CuriousonTruth]

So, your argument is either be perfect or be totally bad?

All or none law?

More accurately, the point is not to be hypocrite.

I think one should not do the community a disservice by religious deception. He/she should make it clear where he/she stands.

And if he/she is an atheist then let her be an atheist, no problem. Just don't practice your irreligiosity and atheism under the guise of religion. Don't be two faced.

If I am not wrong the Prophet(S) hated two faced people.

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Asalamualykum

It's the same for the beard. You can't assume one is growing his beard only for religious reasons. Sometimes it happens to be a fashion statement. Living in fitna times.

While hypocritic men with beard exist especially in madrassas (I raised this point before), I don't think you will ever find a bearded muslim man wearing Punjabi dancing to some nasty Hindi songs in front of dozens of people or doing "things" with a girl friend in some corner (he wouldn't get a girlfriend in the first place if he has beard).