Modern living

[Getoffmyback]

Alpha dude you have the highest reps on this forum and i know that you are not responsible for other's feelings. I will give you something to lift you up . When you feel down and when you show your down feelings then know that you are affecting others. Sorry to say that.

 

[Alpha Dude]

Alpha dude you have the highest reps on this forum and i know that you are not responsible for other's feelings. I will give you something to lift you up . When you feel down and when you show your down feelings then know that you are affecting others. Sorry to say that.

Wow. I'm not down! I'm just voicing thoughts. I didn't mean to make others feel down. I'm sorry, I didn't even realise I was giving off such an impression. mg:

 

[cat eyes]

Wow. I'm not down! I'm just voicing thoughts. I didn't mean to make others feel down. I'm sorry, I didn't even realise I was giving off such an impression. mg:

no your not giving off that impression. ;D i think you are a very deep spiritual person mashaAllah

 

[Getoffmyback]

Don't worry . Its just that this subject about societies brings me down. You saying don't you feel like you wanna escape all this and go into the wilderness . Well sure i want to , after my neighbour put a gun in my head just for a parking space and after 1 girl i used to know got a bullet in her head because people were shooting up in the air to cheer up for a lebanese politician while he was speaking live. Yep sure i want to escape.

 

[marwen]

I find the clutter and distraction and stuff that goes against Islam to be unnecessary and detrimental to the spiritual health of people

Yes, I'm totally ok with that. And, it's probably because of their natural life, the first muslims and the compaignons of the profet were more strong than us. Indeed, the prophet said : خير القرون قرني ثم الذين يلونهم ثم الذين يلونهم (the best muslims are these who are with me, and then those who will be after them, and then those who will come after..)

That shows that muslims are getting worse in every generation, and that may be because of the progress in their way of living. But, wanted us to be born in these late times, and he certainly wanted us to be useful in the earth even in these conditions, So there is certainly some good that we can take from our life today.
I think there is another hadith (I'm not really sure of that) of the prophet saying that in the late times, if a muslim make the tenth of good work (prayer, sadaqa, ...) then allah will reward him as he has done a full good work.

 

[PouringRain]

Nah, they need something that changes their lives completely and I think staying away from civilisation for a length of time, they might not even want to come back lol.

What I mean is: say there was a year long retreat where there was a simple life as I described - would such people find it helpful to bring their souls back to life?

I think that many people do indeed crave the simple life and move away from society and live fully productive and happy lives. I think there are others who would go nuts in such environments and conditions and would probably become as Dagless describes, missing the "creature comforts" and ready to go back. A lot of it just depends on the individual. People who are generally unhappy seem to stay unhappy no matter where they are. Put them in any environment and they will find things to complain about. Their misery is self-imposed, but they attribute it to everything but self. People who are generally happy and at peace will find themselves happy any place they go. Their inner peace is not dependent on external circumstances. Environment can help or hurt, but it is not the underlying source. I think that even the happiest of people would find themselves down in an environment that is poisonous.

For me personally, I love to live a simple life in the middle of nowhere. Of course, I am happy anyplace I live. I am certainly most at peace in a place where all the poisons of the world have not accumulated. Life is wonderful and I would not choose to move back into a big city.

 

[aadil77]

Bro you speak the truth, materialism and us constantly pursuing our desires has ruined our lifestyles. Everything is becoming fake, theres so much materialism, so much going on that if don't keep up with it we're become failures according to society

 

[Argamemnon]

What I mean is: say there was a year long retreat where there was a simple life as I described - would such people find it helpful to bring their souls back to life?

I would love to live alone all my life in a "cave". If I had enough food and books, I wouldn't need anything else. Everything else just causes stress.

id be able to handle it inshaAllah but i just dont want to be left alone. :nervous:

ID need companionship and just the basic essentials for a human to survive.

I'm not like that at all, I become unhappy when I'm not alone mg:

The more time I spend alone, the happier I am...

 

[aadil77]

Say there was a very small muslim village that lived in this simple fashion. There was a mosque at the centre of the community too. Would you ever wish you could just get away from modern civilisation to that place for the sake of rest and being at peace?

Somethin like that would appeal to me, like at the time of the prophet. We'd be free from the pressures of modern society, we won't always have to prove ourselves, always having to keep up with the latest items of dunya etc etc. Now a days everything is structured, must get good grades, must get degree, must get good job, must get married by this age, must acheive this, must acheive that etc. Theres too many expectations to live up to. Life would be much more simpler, happier and possibly overall easier without all of it.

Its kind of like when I go to London, coming from leicester it feels like I've gone 20 years forward, life there is so much more fast paced, up to date, so many things to do so much stuff to keep up with.

It's the same for people I know coming from london to midlands, they feel everything is slower, more boring etc

 

[aadil77]

I would love to live alone all my life in a "cave". If I had enough food and books, I wouldn't need anything else. Everything else just causes stress.
I'm not like that at all, I become unhappy when I'm not alone mg:

The more time I spend alone, the happier I am...

Nah bro thats not what alpha dude meant, that you seclude yourself in a cave.

What he meant was living life without materialistic things which aren't necessary to live a happy life. Friends are family are human neccessities, you'd go mental without them.

 

[Argamemnon]

Nah bro thats not what alpha dude meant, that you seclude yourself in a cave.

What he meant was living life without materialistic things which aren't necessary to live a happy life. Friends are family are human neccessities, you'd go mental without them.

I know what he meant bro. I was just revealing my own dream, regardless how extreme it may sound to most people.

 

[syilla]

:salamext:

I used to think it this way you're thinking. Thinking that the modern way is the culprit for most of my uncontented way of life.

But then i began to realise...i'm not fully gratitude. I keep seeing those who are much better than i am, which i should actually be grateful and not comparing myself too much.
Remember the hadith that says to keep looking for those who below than us. I only began to truly comprehend that.

By having complete gratitude...then only you will feel contentment.

Wassallam