Moroccan wins Iran's Holocaust Cartoon Contest

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - A Moroccan won first prize on Wednesday in
Iran's International Holocaust Cartoons Contest, which had sparked outrage in
Israel, the West and among Jewish groups.

Iran's best-selling newspaper, Hamshahri, launched a competition in February to find the best cartoon about the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis.

The contest was a retaliation for last year's publication of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad in Danish and other European newspapers that angered Muslims worldwide.

Presenting a prize to a representative of Moroccan cartoonist Abdellah Derkaoui, Culture and Islamic Guidance Minister Mohammad Hossein Saffar-Harandi praised Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has described the Holocaust as a "myth."

"Our president was the brave and freedom-seeking person who started this debate without being concerned about its consequences," Saffar-Harandi said.

Derkaoui's cartoon shows a crane with a Star of David sign, putting up blocks making a wall separating the Muslim shrine, the Dome of the Rock, from Jerusalem. The wall has a gate, shown in the distance, that looks like one at the Auschwitz concentration camp, where Jews were incarcerated and killed.

"The taboo is broken now. People should not think that by questioning the Holocaust, they are committing a crime," the minister said. The Moroccan cartoonist won $12,000.

Masoud Shojai-Tabatabai, head of the Cartoon House which helped organize the exhibition of entries, said the government was not financing the prizes but he did not say who was.

In September, while in Tehran, U.N. Secretary General
Kofi Annan condemned the cartoon exhibition and said the Holocaust was an undeniable historical fact.

"We should be careful not to say anything that is used as an excuse for incitement to hatred or violence," he said.

The second prize, worth $8,000, went jointly to French and Brazilian cartoonists. The third-placed competitor was an Iranian cartoonist.

Shojai-Tabatabai did not reveal the French cartoonist's name. "You can call the French cartoonist 'Mr. X'. If I reveal his name, he may face imprisonment in France."

Organizers said some 1,193 drawings had been received from 62 countries including some European states where it is a crime to deny the Holocaust. Some 204 were on display.

The messages of the cartoons displayed were not always clear although several seemed to poke fun at the United States, Iran's arch-enemy.

The competition drew condemnation from the Israeli government, Jewish groups and the mayor of Paris. The United States called the idea "outrageous."

Israeli government spokesman Gideon Meir called on the international community to express disgust for "such an anti-Semitic and inhuman event."

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The cartoons against Prophet Muhammed were more than "outrageous", but i thought it was a matter of free speech then? Why the big fuss now? Why the hypocracy?

Oh, but the massacre of Palestinians everyday isnt "inhuman"; no it's very human like.
 
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The cartoons against Prophet Muhammed were more than "outrageous", but i thought it was a matter of free speech then? Why the big fuss now? Why the hypocracy?

Oh, but the massacre of Palestinians everyday isnt "inhuman"; no it's very human like.

i would say that both the depictions of the prophet and the pictures at this "museum" are both inspired by hate. Neither is humane and neither is right. Fighting hate with hate is never good and the people who inspired all of this controversy will ultimately pay for it in the end. That said, I wouldnt be suprised if we see more pictures of the prophet because of this. There were many pictures that were offensive regarding the holocaust, actually a museum full. I wonder what the muslims would do if rather than a newspaper article was printed of the prophet, an entire museum was opened to print pictures of the prophet? And then the best one was awarded for it.
 
which had sparked outrage in Israel, the West and among Jewish groups.
Why didn't I see any outrage? I lookede and I looked and never saw anything.
 
I dont get why they done one of the holocoust, were the people who drew the pics of who they said was Muhammad Jews? Even so, were they Jews from the Holocoust?
 
The cartoons against Prophet Muhammed were more than "outrageous", but i thought it was a matter of free speech then?

Oh, I did not realize that Jews and Israeli's alike were burning down embassies and people are being killed over this cartoon contest... Could you kindly point me towards the instances in which they were?

Why the big fuss now?

You call this a big fuss? For days on end, endless protests across the world occurred in protests of the prophet cartoon, can you point me to the "big fuss" Jews are creating around the world currently?

Why the hypocrisy?

Iran is the last country that should tell the world about FREEDOM of speech:

The only hypocritical act I see is coming straight from Iran as they continue to hold Omid Memarian, an Iranian human rights activist who has creatively used the internet to press for a more open and democratic political regime in Iran, Ali Akbar Mousavi Khoini, a former member of parliament and critic of Iranian detention practices who has been arrested by police for using his right to "freedom of speech" in Iran, and killed student activist Akbar Mohammadi who engaged in peaceful protests to bring reforms to Iran.

If Iran wishes to tell the world about having "freedom of speech" shouldn't they cease from jailing, silencing, and killing people critical of their regime, similar to the ways the Nazi's silenced their critics.

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/08/03/iran13895.htm
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/09/26/iran14256.htm
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/10/26/iran14378.htm

The only act which would truly define the word "hypocrisy" is your post in reality. You are in obvious support of the use of "free speech" in this instance when making a joke of the mass murder of six million individuals by a state sponsored genocide, yet you are in outrage when your prophet appears in a cartoon. So lets set the record straight:
  • You believe that because Danish newspaper created a Prophet Cartoon, then it is hypocritical for a Jewish person to be angry at a Holocaust Cartoon that was a "response" even though the Jews and Israel had nothing to do with it.
  • You believe that Iran was right in representing freedom of speech in poking fun at a mass genocide, but you believe that Danish were wrong in poking fun at your prophet.
  • You believe that Jewish groups should not complain about a cartoon mimicking and event where six million of their brethren died, yet you believe you have the right to complain about a cartoon mimicking your prophet.
By the way, I am waiting for the links to the large amount of articles revealing the burning and killing taking place in these mass protests of Jews against freedom of speech around the world!

Of course the Jews and the genocide which was responsible for so much of their pain should be laughed at because DANISH artists made fun of your prophet... And you label others as hypocrites?

I don't wish for my post to be thought of as an attack, I am just trying to estabish a point and reason with you, that in reality, the cartoon contest in Iran is not justified, and it has hurt a lot of people some I know.

Why hurt a Jew when it was a Dane who hurt you? It makes no sense.
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The cartoons against Prophet Muhammed were more than "outrageous", but i thought it was a matter of free speech then? Why the big fuss now? Why the hypocracy?


What hypocrisy? The assorted condemnation in Western countries was an example of 'free speech' (as were the cartoons, or at least of free expression), but I don't recall riots or attacks on the Iranian embassy. Muslim condemnation of, and demonstrations against, the cartoons were also an example of free speech and were perfectly acceptable providing they did not incite violence. As Wilburhum said, the "outrage" was limited to a few columns in newspapers and the odd government statement.
 
Oh, I did not realize that Jews and Israeli's alike were burning down embassies and people are being killed over this cartoon contest... Could you kindly point me towards the instances in which they were?
My comment was regarding the comments of the officials of different countries.

Iran is the last country that should tell the world about FREEDOM of speech:


"You can call the French cartoonist 'Mr. X'. If I reveal his name, he may face imprisonment in France."
If a person would face imprisonment in France for something like this, those who made the cartoons about the Prophet should face imprisonment EQUALLY, but no, they were defended in the name of free speech! But Iran allowed this in the name of free speech. I dont see the problem there.

I don't wish for my post to be thought of as an attack, I am just trying to estabish a point and reason with you, that in reality, the cartoon contest in Iran is not justified, and it has hurt a lot of people some I know.
Why pick on Muslims for no reason?! Blame free speech! The cartoons on Prophet Muhammad are NOT justified either, but they were tried to be made justified in the name of Free Speech!

Why hurt a Jew when it was a Dane who hurt you? It makes no sense.


Testing Free Speech. Im sure Iran has nothing agaisnt Jews.

Also, thanks for your opinions everyone ;)
 
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I was trying to be nice. But you make your point much clearer.
You have my respect.
Wilber
 
If a person would face imprisonment in France for something like this, those who made the cartoons about the Prophet should face imprisonment EQUALLY, but no, they were defended in the name of free speech! But Iran allowed this in the name of free speech. I dont see the problem there.

Oh I agree this is hypocritical, but you need to differentiate between a state sponsored mimicking of a genocide, and a cartoonists mimicking of your prophet. To support Iran's right to mimic the deaths of others in a cartoon, yet show even an inch of anger at Denmark's is highly hypocritical.

If Islam teaches to "sink down to the level" of the person who insults you then Iran has indeed accomplished that feet, but to tell you the truth, I don't believe Islam teaches that.
 
If a person would face imprisonment in France for something like this, those who made the cartoons about the Prophet should face imprisonment EQUALLY,
You have to have no understanding why the holocoust denial law were enacted to make such a compairson.
If we follow your logic, it would be against the law to call Jesus a prophit.
 
You have to have no understanding why the holocoust denial law were enacted to make such a compairson.
If we follow your logic, it would be against the law to call Jesus a prophit.

Why would that be? Jesus refered to himself as a prophet :)
 
As Salam Alykum

How can muslims mock death of humans astagfurillaah!
This is not islam!
 
Oh I agree this is hypocritical, but you need to differentiate between a state sponsored mimicking of a genocide, and a cartoonists mimicking of your prophet. To support Iran's right to mimic the deaths of others in a cartoon, yet show even an inch of anger at Denmark's is highly hypocritical.

We love the Messenger of God more than you love all those people that were killed there, no matter if you love them a hundred times over. Your anger for what Iran has done is quite frankly minisicule to ours regarding the cartoons made about the Prophet. There is no comparison between the two in terms of our caring for the Messenger of God.

I agree that the violence in the name of the cartoons was wrong.

I am not supporting Iran in using the Holocaust, but what I am agreeing with is the fact that they are testing the Western concept of Free Speech. Yes it might hurt the feelings of some, but the point is, Iran was not the one to start this business of using cartoons to hurt others. Regardless of what the topic was, it could have been about another 'touchy' topic in history, as long as the same effect was achieved.

I do not deny the holocaust. You are missing my point here.

If Islam teaches to "sink down to the level" of the person who insults you then Iran has indeed accomplished that feet, but to tell you the truth, I don't believe Islam teaches that.
In fact, Islam does not teach that. On the contrary the Quran says,

25: 63 And the bondmen of the Most Affectionate are those who walk on the earth modestly and when the ignorant address them, they say, 'peace'.

But you are wrong to associate this act with the religion. This was just done to test free speech, to expose the hypocracy.
 
Moraly both were wrong in my opinion. I see not sociol or educational justification for either set of cartoons. At best both are in poor taste at worse both or atempts to slandedr and belittle another persons values, unfairly.

Now legaly I do not see were either violated any secular laws.

In any event any and all "destructive" protests are as wrong as the cartoons themselves. Both, should be protested by those who are offended, but the protests can only be valued if they are done by peacefull means.


My next statement is meant as satire. But to me it is the message destructive protesters convey.
I am a very peacefull person and I will maim, demolish, torture, slander and destroy anybody who says I am not Peacefull.
 
Why would that be? Jesus refered to himself as a prophet :)
But Christians say he is god. But then you know that. :hiding: :hiding:

PS: All beef processing should be against the law too.
and the list goes on and on.
But then, in reality, you only want protection for what you believe.
 
I agree. Many European countries are being hyopcritical with their anti-discrimination anti-holocaust denial laws.

But then again. Iran certainly isn't in a very good position to point that out, now is it? I mean, they censor their press and have closed loads of indpendent newspapers in the last few years. While some European countries do indeed have some unwarranted restrictions on free speech, clearly Iran has an awful lot of them. I mean, they score pretty much in the last top 10 as far as press freedom is concerned. Just behind Saudi-Arabia and right in front of China.
 
We love the Messenger of God more than you love all those people that were killed there

Since when do you have the ability to measure love like that? I think that statement is complelty outrageous.

am not supporting Iran in using the Holocaust, but what I am agreeing with is the fact that they are testing the Western concept of Free Speech.

As Izak stated, Iran should look into the lack of freedom of speech they give to their own citizens and activists before they challenge the wests.

How can muslims mock death of humans astagfurillaah!
This is not islam!

Good Post.
 
Honestly people!

Im hot preaching hate or anything, but if the Iranian president assumes that the holocaust never happened, and its all just a big joke, then hey, lets make funny pictures and cartoons about it. Freedom of speech? You mean like the one the netherlands has for imprisoning someone who rejects the hollocaust? or the one Turkey has for charging a writer who said that the Armenian genocide took place? No offence to our jewish brothers, but if all of a sudden you care that Iran is making cartoons about the holocaust, and expect everyone else to care, when in reality, nobody but muslims really cared about the Danish cartoon?

We unfortunately live in a selfish world, people only care when THEY are affected or they feel THEIR rights are being abused, so dont expect sympathy anytime soon...

Salamz.
 
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