Morocco jails German for trying to convert Muslims

[Umar001]

Well I guess it does make sense, if you believe that a faith is true then you wouldn't really want others coming and fooling people to join another faith.

 

[Malaikah]

^Exaclty.

I also find the charge about "shaking the faith of a Muslim" to be quite strange. Is a Muslim's faith that weak that a law is needed to stop the temptation to convert to another faith?

The people have a right over the Islamic government to protect them, and that includes protecting their faith. It would be foolish to assume that every Muslim is strong in faith. Many of them are not but many of them try to become stronger in faith. We don't want people trying to convert us to different religions while we are in that state of weak faith, it is something we will be grateful for when our faith strengthens.

There is no need to assume that everyone is perfect (in this case, perfect in faith), because the reality is they are not, and it is up to the government to help protect them.

(Not that morroco is doing a good job, but my reply was in general anyway)

 

[Malaikah]

The real issue behind all of this is the double standard in the way Muslims want their religion respected in non-Muslim countries and the respect given to other faiths in Muslim countries.

No, that is not a double standard. Most non-Muslim countries are secular states so what right do they have to single out anyone based on their religion?? If you claim to be a free secular country then you better act like one! Their countries are not ruled by any specific religion, so they cant make these kind of rules. If they prohibit the spread of anyone religion then they have to apply the same rule to all religions.

On the other hand the Muslim countries are ruled by Islamic law (not really but lets just assume it is so), so the government is not separate from religion, so then you have to expect that the laws will be religion-specific. The same goes for any country ruled by a religious, non-secular system.

 

[Dawud_uk]

Why in many Muslim countries are people now allowed to convert to another religion? Which is worse? Sharing a different message with an individual, or refusing to allow that message to be heard? I would assume most on this board would say the former was the worst. The real issue behind all of this is the double standard in the way Muslims want their religion respected in non-Muslim countries and the respect given to other faiths in Muslim countries.

keltoi,

if the uk wishes to make dawah to islam illegial that is there business, whilst it isnt i will use it. however in islam it is illegial, this is the shariah and is our law coming directly from God and we dont compromise it or say God might have been right in the past but is wrong now and so that we know better than God and his prophet (peace be upon him).

i respect your laws here in the lands of disbelief, and live by them. you should do the same in the lands of islam and so should the missionaries, i.e dont go there because what you are doing is illegial.

Abu Abdullah

 

[aamirsaab]

imagine if a Muslim were jailed for this in the West, wow

Nah we just get capped. Or deported to gitmo - whichever is more convenient in the way of the "war on terror" and all that .

 

[Agnostic]

Nah we just get capped. Or deported to gitmo - whichever is more convenient in the way of the "war on terror" and all that .

I don't believe Ive ever heard of anyone being killed or jailed in the west or at least the USA for spreading the word of Islam

 

[aamirsaab]

I don't believe Ive ever heard of anyone being killed or jailed in the west or at least the USA for spreading the word of Islam

I meant, muslims get shot before even thinking about, let alone converting anyone to Islam. All in the name of terror and so on and so forth.

 

[MTAFFI]

i will say if the laws say dont do it, then dont do it, however i dont agree with the laws, the man did violate them and is dealt with accordingly

 

[Lina]

Well,

They even hand out 'conversion kits' to morrocan muslims at the spanish border.

Also, there's a high number of moroccan muslims converting to Christianity in Morocco.

Rabat - Morocco’s Islamic leaders are concerned with the increase in the number of Moroccans who are converting to Christianity: these now number 1,000 compared to some 400 a decade ago. Many of the converts have joined Protestant and Evangelical churches whose missionaries are active in the overwhelmingly Muslim North African country, according to a report by pan-Arab satellite TV station al-Arabiya. “We’re more than 1,000 and we have some 50 churches present in towns and cities throughout the country,” Abdel Halim, a 57-year-old physician who converted to the Evangelical faith 16 years ago, told al-Arabiya.




Feshkel...

 

[Bittersteel]

evangelism of any religion should be banned.and I mean any religion.
answering questions about religion and trying to convert are different things.

 

[Keltoi]

I believe conversion to be fine, regardless of the faith, as long as it is done without compulsion of any kind. I get slightly annoyed with missionaries in South America and elsewhere who go among the indigenous population, who are terrified and confused about the strange world that is growing around them, and promise them safety and the like if they convert to Christianity. However, conversion based only on faith is completely natural.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

In this case it is clear cut would you not say..

The christian are trying DESPITE the law.

If you go a coutnry do you follow its laws?Yes or No

In Asia we drive on the right,,should we do that in coutnries that drive on the left?

In Malay we have a saying,,Di mana kaki pijak,di situ langit di junjung..

Respect where you are,do not break the laws..
Respect the people...
Respect the community.

I am very sure that some westerner say,hey then can muslim convert christians..
Well first thing,,Dakwah is done for those who asks,,,,not seeked.

I chat with a white caucasian and he said,you are trying to covnert the world to Islam..

and i said,,I dont care about you not your decision to enter ****ation or salvation,it is your choice.
You care about your self i shall care for me and mine,.,,so there...


I hope the westerner lose their ego thinking that muslim make it an article of faith to get converts..LOL

 

[Lina]

I believe conversion to be fine, regardless of the faith, as long as it is done without compulsion of any kind. I get slightly annoyed with missionaries in South America and elsewhere who go among the indigenous population, who are terrified and confused about the strange world that is growing around them, and promise them safety and the like if they convert to Christianity. However, conversion based only on faith is completely natural.

Yes,

That also happened in Nigeria.

It was said by a sheikh (forgot his name) who visited Nigeria last year and was told by Nigerians that missionaries in Nigeria offered them aid for conversion to Christianity in return.

(Don't have that lecture right now, will find it Insha'Allah/God willing)

 

[Pietro]

Yes,

That also happened in Nigeria.

It was said by a sheikh (forgot his name) who visited Nigeria last year and was told by Nigerians that missionaries in Nigeria offered them aid for conversion to Christianity in return.

(Don't have that lecture right now, will find it Insha'Allah/God willing)

My church does a lot of mission work in Africa and this is what happens. They set up camp in a village and they hand out food for the week. At the end of the week they post that they are gonna have a church revival normally on Friday. They don't force anyone to convert now do they withhold food from anyone. Missionaries are under strict rules not to preach to the villagers unless they come to them first in fear that people my think that the food is based on conversion. My church don't expect anything out of it except to help people. It's their own decision if they come to Christ