Mr. President, don’t do it. Don’t bomb Iran!

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Don't Do It, Mr. President



Contributed by Tom
Thursday, 15 February 2007


Hon. Ron Paul Of Texas



The moral of the story, Mr. Speaker, is this:

if you don’t have a nuke, we’ll threaten to attack you. If you do have a nuke, we’ll leave you alone.



In fact, we’ll probably subsidize you. What makes us think Iran does not understand this?



Hon. Ron Paul Of Texas
Before the U.S. House of Representatives 02/06/07



02/14/07 "ICH" -- --

It’s a bad idea.
There’s no need for it.


There’s great danger in doing it.
America is against it, and Congress should be.
The United Nations is against it.


The Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, and the Pakistanis are against it.
The whole world is against it.
Our allies are against it.


Our enemies are against it.
The Arabs are against it.


The Europeans are against it.
The Muslims are against it.


We don’t need to do this.
The threat is overblown.


The plan is an hysterical reaction to a problem that does not yet exist.


Hysteria is never a good basis for foreign policy.
Don’t we ever learn?

Have we already forgotten Iraq?


The plan defies common sense.
If it’s carried out, the Middle East, and possibly the world, will explode.



Oil will soar to over $100 a barrel, and gasoline will be over $5 a gallon.


Despite what some think, it won’t serve the interests of Israel.


Besides-- it’s illegal.
It’s unconstitutional.


And you have no moral authority to do it.
We don’t need it.
We don’t want it.


So, Mr. President, don’t do it.
Don’t bomb Iran!


Link to this page: http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/562/2/

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flip! are they planning to bomb Iran now?! I knew they would do it some day (part of the signs of qiyama) but now...? when did this come up?
 
There would have to be a aggressive action on Iran's part for any bombing campaign to begin. That doesn't mean the U.S. won't disrupt Iranian operations inside Iraq.
 
There would have to be a aggressive action on Iran's part for any bombing campaign to begin. That doesn't mean the U.S. won't disrupt Iranian operations inside Iraq.

Really? Since when? What was the aggressive action by Iraq against the USA? What was the aggressive action by Afghanistan against the USA? They don't need an aggressive action...just a lame excuse and the opportunity. And if they can't find one...they'll create one and change it as necessary.
 
Really? Since when? What was the aggressive action by Iraq against the USA? What was the aggressive action by Afghanistan against the USA? They don't need an aggressive action...just a lame excuse and the opportunity. And if they can't find one...they'll create one and change it as necessary.

First of all, Iraq and the U.S. were in a state of war for all intents and purposes. Saddam broke the cease-fire agreement many times by firing at U.N. aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone. Technically, the U.S. would have been justified in continuing military operations on that basis alone, but the U.N. route seemed to make sense at the time...

As for Afghanistan, you don't have to be a foreign affairs genius to figure that out. The U.S. was attacked by a terrorist organization given safe haven inside Afghanistan. By any reading of international law, the U.S. was well within its rights to defend itself and interests.

There is no reason to attack Iran unless the U.S. is provoked to the point of having no choice in the matter. Iran should be more worried about Israel...you know that country the Iranian president said should be "wiped off the map?"
 
I may be confused. But, where have I read or heard anything that the US was planning any military action towards Iran? Perhaps we are all being a bit presumptive about this.
 
I may be confused. But, where have I read or heard anything that the US was planning any military action towards Iran? Perhaps we are all being a bit presumptive about this.

This is all conjecture and Democratic fear tactics. The Dems are trying to convince the American people that Bush is planning on attacking Iran, which of course he has stated repeatedly is not the case. Even if some military action was on the table, it would consist of pinpoint airstrikes intended to take out the Iranian nuclear sites, which by most accounts would be next to impossible given the circumstances. So the possibility of an American attack on Iran is slim and none...unless intentionally provoked into war by Iran itself.
 
First of all, Iraq and the U.S. were in a state of war for all intents and purposes. Saddam broke the cease-fire agreement many times by firing at U.N. aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone. Technically, the U.S. would have been justified in continuing military operations on that basis alone, but the U.N. route seemed to make sense at the time...

As for Afghanistan, you don't have to be a foreign affairs genius to figure that out. The U.S. was attacked by a terrorist organization given safe haven inside Afghanistan. By any reading of international law, the U.S. was well within its rights to defend itself and interests.

There is no reason to attack Iran unless the U.S. is provoked to the point of having no choice in the matter. Iran should be more worried about Israel...you know that country the Iranian president said should be "wiped off the map?"

You sound like GWB...for all intents and purposes? His excuse was a lie and it was admitted to being a lie and proven to be a lie....deny it if you want, but that's a fact! The UN did NOT support an invasion of Iraq and neither did the rest of the world. So not so TECHNICALLY it was the USA that went AGAINST the UN and did what they wanted regardless...had another country did that, the USA would have opted to bomb them too if their resources were worth it.

The USA was attacked, and to this day they do not know who did it. They only have speculation and the person they accuse has denied it from day one!! And, you might want to read a little more about that little situation in Afghanistan to get your facts right. The Taliban had no problem holding Bin Laden and in fact DID hold him. They asked for proofs so he could be tried under the laws of Shariah according to Islamic belief. When the USA continued to threaten them, they said they were willing to hand him over to another country following the laws of Shariah, but again, the USA didn't want that. They pussy-footed around too long and the Taliban released him following the laws of Shariah. The USA did not, could not and still can't provide once piece of solid evidence to prove Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Research for yourself.

The USA also created this "terrorist organization" within the borders of Afghanistan and provided the arms they needed when the interest served the USA.

So, don't try to say the USA won't find any lame excuse or reason to attack Iran. Quite frankly, as I said, if they don't have one...they'll create one.

I'm not going to get into an argument about this with you. The facts speak for themselves. Read and believe it or read it and deny it...the choice is yours.

And, btw, even as a president he has a right to give his opinion about Israel and I'm sure there are plenty Muslims and non-Muslims that agree with him. If words were a justifiable reason for bombing, the USA would have bombed 99% of the world by now for the opinions stated about them.

The end.

Hana
 
You sound like GWB...for all intents and purposes? His excuse was a lie and it was admitted to being a lie and proven to be a lie....deny it if you want, but that's a fact! The UN did NOT support an invasion of Iraq and neither did the rest of the world. So not so TECHNICALLY it was the USA that went AGAINST the UN and did what they wanted regardless...had another country did that, the USA would have opted to bomb them too if their resources were worth it.

The USA was attacked, and to this day they do not know who did it. They only have speculation and the person they accuse has denied it from day one!! And, you might want to read a little more about that little situation in Afghanistan to get your facts right. The Taliban had no problem holding Bin Laden and in fact DID hold him. They asked for proofs so he could be tried under the laws of Shariah according to Islamic belief. When the USA continued to threaten them, they said they were willing to hand him over to another country following the laws of Shariah, but again, the USA didn't want that. They pussy-footed around too long and the Taliban released him following the laws of Shariah. The USA did not, could not and still can't provide once piece of solid evidence to prove Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Research for yourself.

The USA also created this "terrorist organization" within the borders of Afghanistan and provided the arms they needed when the interest served the USA.

So, don't try to say the USA won't find any lame excuse or reason to attack Iran. Quite frankly, as I said, if they don't have one...they'll create one.

I'm not going to get into an argument about this with you. The facts speak for themselves. Read and believe it or read it and deny it...the choice is yours.

The end.

Hana

Wow...is that really the end? Thank goodness, because that was such a load of rubbish I don't think I could read much more.

No proof that Bin Laden committed the act huh? Bin Laden has denied it? Do you even read a newspaper once in awhile? Bin Laden took responsibility for it and continues to take responsibility for it. As for any other evidence, the money trail leads directly to Afghanistan.

As for the Taliban, the U.S. doesn't care about "Shariah Law", especially not coming from that group of thugs. In any event, the goal was the destruction of the Al-Qaeda training grounds and infrastructure, not only the capture of one man.

Now Iraq. Yes, the evidence proposed to the U.N. turned out to be faulty. However, it was a U.N. resolution that promised "serious consequences" if Iraq didn't fully cooperate with weapons inspections, which they did not. The fact that the U.N. doesn't back up its own resolutions isn't the fault of the U.S.
 
There would have to be a aggressive action on Iran's part for any bombing campaign to begin. That doesn't mean the U.S. won't disrupt Iranian operations inside Iraq.

Iran wouldn't need to have operations there in the first place. Leave Iraq alone, you big fat bullies you....
 
Wow...is that really the end? Thank goodness, because that was such a load of rubbish I don't think I could read much more.

No proof that Bin Laden committed the act huh? Bin Laden has denied it? Do you even read a newspaper once in awhile? Bin Laden took responsibility for it and continues to take responsibility for it. As for any other evidence, the money trail leads directly to Afghanistan.

As for the Taliban, the U.S. doesn't care about "Shariah Law", especially not coming from that group of thugs. In any event, the goal was the destruction of the Al-Qaeda training grounds and infrastructure, not only the capture of one man.

Now Iraq. Yes, the evidence proposed to the U.N. turned out to be faulty. However, it was a U.N. resolution that promised "serious consequences" if Iraq didn't fully cooperate with weapons inspections, which they did not. The fact that the U.N. doesn't back up its own resolutions isn't the fault of the U.S.

First: Why don't you learn to speak to others in a respectful manner and keep your arrogance hidden. Contrary to what you may think, there are those of us that do take the time to research unbiased sites and information sources and not base our opinions on what the government wants us to know. The only pile of rubbish I see is your attempt to justify what the rest of the world knows is an illegal invasion and the very real possibility they could do it again!

Second: Do you ever watch anything besides CNN?? Why don't you use the little piece of equipment you're using now to look at unbiased reports...Non-Muslim and Non-American. Show ONE, just ONE authenticated admission of guilt by Ossama Bin Laden. Every single video tape was determined to be FAKE by universities in the USA and, I do believe it was Swiss Officials that have no reason to lie. The ONLY ones with a reason to lie is...oh let's see....yes, right, the government of the USA!! And they have been caught in a plethora of lies since the illegal invasion. Bin Laden openly DENIED his involvement. Funny thing is....THOSE tapes were determined to be authentic!! The money came from Afghanistan....and that is your proof it was Bin Laden?? And what kind of proof is that? They couldn't determine the existence of WMDs in a war torn country but they have the intelligence to determine where funding came from with 100% certainty? okie dokie LOOOL

Third: The USA doesn't care about the laws of ANYONE and that, my friend, is the point!! As a predominately Muslim country, they don't care about the man made laws of the USA, but because they are a 3rd world country without firepower, "they lose". The "training grounds" were founded and funded by the USA. The soldiers trained by the USA. They produced what they are now fighting! Young American soldiers and innocent civilians are the ONLY ones paying the price for that and you can try to justify it anyway you want. You will find very few that will agree with you.

Fourth: The fact is the USA wants EVERYONE to bow down to UN resolutions as long as it suits their purpose. The laws do not apply to them!! Why didn't the USA go blow up Israel when they wouldn't allow UN weapons inspectors in to do their job? When Israel said they were only building Nuclear plants for power, etc., and NOT developing weapons...why weren't there sanctions placed on them when it was determined they lied!? Why weren't they bombed? Why were there no consequences for that? Why? And, Iraq DID comply with UN inspectors and the inspectors reported finding NOTHING!!!! The USA didn't like the report and kept pushing. I had no use for Saddam, but it doesn't change the fact the USA lied and bullied their way in to bomb a country that was no threat to anyone, including its own neighbours according to the USA themselves just a few months PRIOR to the illegal attack.

And you think they need or want a valid reason to invade another country? LOOL

And you can have the last word because I am done. Research for yourself and look a little deeper than what the USA government wants you to see. Try to justify to those soldiers why they are dying in Iraq. Justify it to the parents who have lost their sons/daughters while "serving" their country. The only thing the American people need to be saved from is their own government!!

Hana
 
Salaam/peace;


I did not read all these …..look like next war is not very far.


Next Stop: Tehran

The White House denies plans to attack Iran, but the signs all point in that direction.



By Philip Giraldi


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17093.htm




Israel alone will face Iran: cabinet minister:

Israel will have to confront the perceived nuclear threat from Iran on its own, the country's ultra-rightwing Strategic Affairs Minister Avigdor Lieberman said on Tuesday.




Charging Iran with "Genocide" Before Nuking It

By Gary Leupp

In a very interesting analysis last month, the former chief of staff of the Russian Army, Gen. Leonid Ivashov, predicted a U.S. nuclear strike on Iran by this April.



"Within weeks from now," he wrote, "we will see the informational warfare machine start working. The public opinion is already under pressure.


There will be a growing anti-Iranian militaristic hysteria, new information leaks, disinformation, etc." I'm afraid this has the ring of truth.



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17029.htm




http://snipurl.com/1a36p

U.S. General: No Evidence of Iran Giving Arms to Iraqis

By CHRIS BRUMMITT
Associated Press



A top U.S. general said today there was no evidence the Iranian government was supplying Iraqi insurgents with highly lethal roadside bombs, apparently contradicting claims by other U.S.


military and administration officials.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17046.htm

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Blame it on Iran!

5 Minute Video

Keith Obermann speaks with Prof. Juan Cole about U.S. attempts to blame Iran for the disaster in Iraq.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17047.htm


Russian Admiral Says U.S. Navy Prepares Missile Strike on Iran:



U.S. Navy nuclear submarines maintaining vigil off the coast of Iran indicate that the Pentagon's military plans include not only control over navigation in the Persian Gulf but also strikes against Iranian targets, a former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Admiral Eduard Baltin has told the Interfax news agency.




http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article16186.htm

Top Cheney Aide: U.S. Attack 'A Real Possibility':

One ambassador in Washington said he was taken aback when John Hannah, Vice President Cheney's national security adviser, said during a recent meeting that the administration considers 2007 "the year of Iran" and indicated that a U.S. attack was a real possibility.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/12/hannah-iran


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Salaam/peace


Scenes from Tehran


http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html



Short selection of photos of daily life in and around Iran’s capital city, with background music, “Peace Train,” by Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens)






US Now Ready to Attack Iran

Dan Plesch -- New Statesman (Britain)



http://www.newstatesman.com/200702190014

American military operations for a major conventional war with Iran could be implemented any day.


They extend far beyond targeting suspect WMD facilities and will enable President Bush to destroy Iran's military, political and economic infrastructure overnight using conventional weapons.



British military sources told the New Statesman, on condition of anonymity, that "the US military switched its whole focus to Iran" as soon as Saddam Hussein was kicked out of Baghdad.




It continued this strategy, even though it had American infantry bogged down in fighting the insurgency in Iraq. The US army, navy, air force and marines have all prepared battle plans and spent four years building bases and training for "Operation Iranian Freedom".



US Plans for Attack Against Iran Revealed
BBC News



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6376639. stm


US contingency plans for air strikes on Iran extend beyond nuclear sites and include most of the country's military infrastructure, the BBC has learned. It is understood that any such attack - if ordered - would target Iranian air bases, naval bases, missile facilities and command-and-control centres. ...


BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says the trigger for such an attack reportedly includes any confirmation that Iran was developing a nuclear weapon - which it denies.


Alternatively, our correspondent adds, a high-casualty attack on US forces in neighbouring Iraq could also trigger a bombing campaign if it were traced directly back to Tehran.





 
I see that some people from America are still in denial, despite the contradicting evidence provided by the government time and time over. American mainstream media is like no other in the world, its the largest most efficient mind control tool and not to mention one of the most successful. Anything that isn't consistent with the mainstream view whether wrong or sometimes correct information, then its either not credible or a conspiracy. The mind frame is that FBI, CIA etc are the best at their jobs, they solve cases, some decades old and are fighting aliens off at the same time.
I would also like to see evidence of Osama being responsible for 9/11. I do not mean fake videos. 9/11 is an event that has made muslims more furious than you can imagine. You have lost nearly 3,000 people, we have lost nearly a million muslim brothers and sisters in Afghanistan and Iraq and Palestine, as a direct result of American politics. Since we know a true muslim will not go down the road of 9/11 which has only brought suffering for muslims, and worldly benefits for US and Israel. 9/11 has given America a license for terrorism (to bomb any country they want to). So your claims that muslims are responsible for terrorist attacks against non muslims are baseless.
 
I see that some people from America are still in denial, despite the contradicting evidence provided by the government time and time over. American mainstream media is like no other in the world, its the largest most efficient mind control tool and not to mention one of the most successful. Anything that isn't consistent with the mainstream view whether wrong or sometimes correct information, then its either not credible or a conspiracy. The mind frame is that FBI, CIA etc are the best at their jobs, they solve cases, some decades old and are fighting aliens off at the same time.
I would also like to see evidence of Osama being responsible for 9/11. I do not mean fake videos. 9/11 is an event that has made muslims more furious than you can imagine. You have lost nearly 3,000 people, we have lost nearly a million muslim brothers and sisters in Afghanistan and Iraq and Palestine, as a direct result of American politics. Since we know a true muslim will not go down the road of 9/11 which has only brought suffering for muslims, and worldly benefits for US and Israel. 9/11 has given America a license for terrorism (to bomb any country they want to). So your claims that muslims are responsible for terrorist attacks against non muslims are baseless.

lol....this is rich..no really. How exactly does someone go about "faking" every Al-Qaeda video released since 9-11? Not to mention the tape with Osama Bin Laden taking credit and praising the "martrys". Perhaps a "true" Muslim wouldn't go down the path of 9-11, I hope that is true. However, the truth is that self-proclaimed Muslims hijacked planes, slit the throats of stewardesses and pilots in front of passengers, and crashed into buildings, with the exception of Flight 93. I understand you don't want to believe a self-proclaimed Muslim would do this, but intentionally playing dumb isn't the answer.
 
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