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I see and in a small way understand the fervor over "the cartoons" but what I want to ask is where was the embassy burning and the outrage when movies like "The Last Temptation Of Christ" came out depicting Jesus having sex with Mary Magdelan or the art exhibit featuring a cross submerged in urine. Was he not a Prophet just as Muhammed ?? I hope Jesus is not being looked upon as a "second class Prophet." Do you want to hear something funny ? I as an American support these peoples right to do these things even if I think at the very least they are stupid. I would die to defend this right.
 
Islam does not support abusive speech in any form

Jesus(pbuh) was a prophet of God indeed but you have to understand we are not his nation.

We are the nation of Mohammed(pbuh) so we have a very special attatchment to him.

(pbuh=peace be upon him)
 
Was he not a Prophet just as Muhammed ??
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mind yur words bro... Muhammad is a prophet!


below is a verse from Quran to condemn the abussing of other religions...

[6.108],Quran "And do not abuse those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest exceeding the limits they should abuse Allah out of ignorance. Thus have We made fair seeming to every people their deeds; then to their Lord shall be their return, so He will inform them of what they did."
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And below are some verses from Quran to support that Jesus is a prophet
Quran, "[19.27] And she came to her people with him, carrying him (with her). They said: O Marium! surely you have done a strange thing.
[19.28] O sister of Haroun! your father was not a bad man, nor, was your mother an unchaste woman.
[19.29] But she pointed to him. They said: How should we speak to one who was a child in the cradle?
[19.30] He said: Surely I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet;
[19.31] And He has made me blessed wherever I may be, and He has enjoined on me prayer and poor-rate so long as I live;
[19.32] And dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me insolent, unblessed;"
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akulion said:
Jesus(pbuh) was a prophet of God indeed but you have to understand we are not his nation.

We are the nation of Mohammed(pbuh) so we have a very special attatchment to him.

(pbuh=peace be upon him)
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Again, shouldn't every nation be Jesus' nation, just as they are Mohammeds ?? Why is one different from the other ?? Perplexing.
 
Jesus pbuh was NOT sent to us, he was sent with the message to a different set of people. Muhammad pbuh, on the other hand was sent to all of mankind.

furthermore, why, as a muslim, would i be personally offended by someone insulting the cross (im not saying that i agree with it)? Jesus never went near that cross. he was NOT crusified, according to islamic teachings and what God swt has told us in the quran.

when Jesus pbuh is depicted as you have said, it is christianities version of jesus pbuh that is being refered to, the so called "god', not the prophet.
 
cheese said:
Jesus pbuh is depicted as you have said, it is christianities version of jesus pbuh that is being refered to, the so called "god', not the prophet.
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Jesus is NEVER refered to as God. He is the Son of God, sent to earth to die for the sins of man. I still don't see the difference. What I'm hearing isn't cool !!
 
partysoverkids said:
Jesus is NEVER refered to as God. He is the Son of God, sent to earth to die for the sins of man. I still don't see the difference. What I'm hearing isn't cool !!
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so.. being the son of god makes his what? what kind of species? god species??:?
and thats besides the point anyway, the point is- christian version of jesus which is soooooooo different to the islamic version, cos jesus is not the son of god, according to islamic teachings.
 
According to Islam, Jesus never died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was born to die on the cross.Muslims believe that Jesus peace be upon him according to the Holy Quran is a wonderful, humble, generous messenger of God who came down and revealed God's words to his people, the people of Israel

The rank of the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam: There is no phrase
that can encompass all the features of greatness of our beloved Prophet Muhhamad,sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam; and there are not enough words to describe his greatness, a greatness that overwhelmed all people in all ages, and was decreed to be eternal. It is this greatness that is instilled in all
hearts, settled in all souls and felt by all the people.
 
partysoverkids said:
Jesus is NEVER refered to as God. He is the Son of God, sent to earth to die for the sins of man. I still don't see the difference. What I'm hearing isn't cool !!
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ok so your basicly telling me he was sent to dieee for your sins corrrect? ok

Say there are a bunch of kids, and they have a parents ...all the kids are bad ok they lie, cheat and all that....and there's this one kid that loves his parents and brings them flowers and so on...ok....your telling me outta a show of good faith the parents are gonna take the good kid and kill him becuz the other kids are bad??? thats unjust man dont you think....god isnt unjust!!
 
partysoverkids said:
Jesus is NEVER refered to as God. He is the Son of God, sent to earth to die for the sins of man. I still don't see the difference. What I'm hearing isn't cool !!
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Muslims do not believe that Jesus is God, nor they believe that God ever chose to come down to earth in a form of a man to die for our sins to purify us and forgive us.

3:59 "The similitude of Jesus Before Allah is as that of Adam; He (Allah) created him (Jesus) from dust, Then said to him: Be. And he was." After a description of the high position which Jesus occupies as a prophet, we have a reputation of the dogma that he was Allah, or the son of Allah, or anything more than a man. If it is said that he was born without a human father, Adam was also so born. Indeed Adam was born without either a human father or mother. As far as our physical bodies are concerned, they are mere dust. In Allah's sight Jesus was a dust just as Adam was or humanity is. The greatness of Jesus arose from the Divine command "Be", for after that he was. He also was a great spiritual leader.
 
true sister


The term "son of God" was used many times for beings close to God, and not necessarily in exclusivity for Jesus. Most of the early literature on Jesus was written by people who have never met him and had a Hellenized past. Like anything, Jesus' words are subject to intepretation, and the people who lived in the Roman empire certainly interpreted Jesus' statements according to their context. Whether the Bible has been edited or not is not something only Muslims discuss, but it is part of the scholarly discourse amongst many Westerners as well.
 
cheese said:
so.. being the son of god makes his what? what kind of species? god species??:?
and thats besides the point anyway, the point is- christian version of jesus which is soooooooo different to the islamic version, cos jesus is not the son of god, according to islamic teachings.
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So again. Is he or isn't he a prophet, equal in every way ? I know you see what I'm getting at.
 
well yes, he is still a prophet, a great prophet, but not OUR prophet. an analogy: my dad is a parent, the guy across the street is a parent. both of them are dads, but who is more important to me? my dad, obviously. just like the prophet muhammad pbuh is more important to us becuase he is our prophet, but jesus pbuh still rocks too.
 
partysoverkids said:
Of what species is Muhammed ? Jesus is of the same. Your question could be considered rude by some people.
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i simply meant that if jesus is not god, yet he is the son of god, then what on earth is he? human? how can he be human if he is the son of god?

anyway its not important, off topic, and it was not meant to be rude.
 
It is apparent that for you, Jesus should be thought of in the same light as Muhammad, fore he is a prophet just the same. Because I am not a Muslim, his meaning is different for me than it is for you.
 
Moses --> Sent to --> Children of Isreal (Jews)

Jesus --> Sent to --> Lost sheep of Isreal (Jews)

Mohammed ---> Sent to ---> All of Humanity

Thats basically the difference - no one denies that each was a prophet

However we have to recognize the function of each prophet.

Moses ---> Given the law in part

Jesus --> Not given the law but came to reaffirm it

Mohammed ---> given the law in completion

I hope you understand.

Peace be upon all the Prophets I mentioned
 

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