Muhammad vs The Prophets of the Holy Bible

[albanianbrother]

I suggest no one reply back to this spambot from this point on..

im not spamming brother or sister but im just asking questions what your religion forbids discussion or question???? looks like on one can answer my question allah sends a book(torah psalms and gospel) in the quran none can change, if your in doubt about muhammad go to the people of the book and their scriptures(bible) the only scripture we have and it only condemns muhammad as a false prophet but now muslims say o its not the real book allah sent its been change but none can change allah's word and a;;ah commands in the quran if your in doubt about muhamma go to the people of the book and thier scriptures that what im doing but we can only declare him to be a false prophet so who right allah saying the gospel is not change and go to it for light and guidance or islamic theology which disagrees with the quran surah 6 34

 

[albanianbrother]

i ask questions and try my best to reply to everyone but i only see hate and they say islam a religion of peace and islam is the truth but no one can question it or have discussion about it or even think that islam is not true

 

[جوري]

i ask questions and try my best to reply to everyone but i only see hate and they say islam a religion of peace and islam is the truth but no one can question it or have discussion about it or even think that islam is not true

1- I know the time it takes to read the article in post number five, let alone all that other members have posted to challenge you or correct you or query you back-- so no you've not tried your best! You're being dishonest.
You've come here with an agenda and it is unfortunately failing. We're not mindless twits ready to imbue your crap simply because you put it out there and expect that it will go unchallenged.
2- I don't see how anyone is hateful toward you? or has even remotely used the vile foul language you used to describe the messenger when you're a guest on our forum and the least you can do is show us your so-called gentle Christian manners.
3- Islam isn't the 'religion of peace' who says that is what Islam is about? Islam is a monotheistic religion meant to teach us about the one true God, the purpose of life, how to fulfill that purpose and live productive lives for here and the hereafter. We're peaceful toward those who seek peace and will be ready to defend ourselves against those who attack. It is common sense.
4- You've not had a discussion thus far, a discussion means you're willing to receive it as you're willing to dish it out and no one so far has seen you adhere to those rules.

best,

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

Greetings Albania brother. Actually the Qur'an goes perfectly in line with all the revelations and scriptures before it. It is the seal of all the same scriptures and revelations God sent to the all the previous Prophet's and Messengers before it. But please tell me Albanian brother why does the Bible include the New Testament which has nothing to do with any Prophet but was written by random men to which even Christian scholars admit that they are unsure of when it was written and exactly by whom it was written by.

It also contains concepts such as God having a son and a mother as well as the blood atonement of Christ and the trinity - NONE of which are in line with ANY scripture before it nor did ANY Prophet ever mention such concepts nor did Jesus ever teach nor mention it and nor did God ever teach nor mention such concepts but these concepts are ONLY contained in the New Testament which you take your religion from which was NOT written by ANY Prophet or Messenger but by RANDOM men at an unknown time hundreds of years after Jesus.

Do you feel satisfied and at peace taking your religion from such an unreliable book which was added to the Bible but had nothing to do with any Prophet nor God but was included anyway. But the Qur'an is in perfect alignment with every scripture and it teaches what EVERY scripture and revelation before it taught including the same message Jesus taught and that is that there is NO worthy of worship except God alone who has no partners and nor is he in need of one for all the power and might of this universe belongs to him alone and he is self sufficient.

I hope you'll have a deep think about this.

 

[Abz2000]

so your disbelive what allah said in surah 6 34 saying no one can change the words of allah, so how can the gospel be changed

ur being silly, it's obvious that this is referring to the words that have proceeded from God, maybe it's referring to the fact that none can legitimately change it, Allah a'lam,
here's an example from the bible:
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isaiah 45:23

what does this mean to you?
can you change that fact?
i can assure you you can change the text, but it won't be His word.

but any dufus can tell you that it's possible to get any holy book and edit it, i even have a quran where they made a typographical error so they had to paste a corrected page onto that page in order to rectify the typo,
if you think no-one can change the words of the bible,
pick up a pen.
or if you think it's too difficult, find someone who's good at forging currency.

silly boy

 

[Abz2000]

if your quran is clear as it says then when it tells me to go to the people of the book and their scriptures

because many rabbi's. priests, and others saw the signs in their own scriptures and accepted the truth when they saw it,
do a google search for Abdullah ibn salam.


When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messengers,
thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth.
They say: Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses.
Quran 5:83

 

[~ Sabr ~]

how can prophets before muhammad disgree with muhammad if muhammad is a prophet ?

Greetings albanianbrother.

I know you are spamming, but I feel compelled to answer your post nevertheless.


Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the offspring of the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and 'Îsa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)."
[Qur'aan, Chapter #2, Verse #136]

Or say you that Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob) and Al-Asbat [the offspring of the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)] were Jews or Christians? Say, "Do you know better or does Allah (knows better ... that they all were Muslims)? And who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony [i.e. to believe in prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم when he comes, as is written in their Books. (See Verse 7:157)] he has from Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do."
[Qur'aan, Chapter #2, Verse #140]

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you albanianbrother; and welcome to the forum;

We are guests on an Islamic forum, and as such I believe we should respect their beliefs even though we may disagree with some of them. The same God hears all our prayers, and in both of our scriptures it says that God chooses us, it may seem strange that the same God would chooses us through different paths.

Our greatest commandments are to love God and our neighbours, and even to pray for those we might consider enemies. The parable of the Good Samaritan describes how even the priests and the Levites get the greatest commandmetns wrong and this also makes their religion wrong.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith tolerance and respect.

Eric

 

[albanianbrother]

We are guests on an Islamic forum, and as such I believe we should respect their beliefs even though we may disagree with some of them

your afriad to preach the truth i came to have good disucssion and PREACH THE TRUTH not to conform with their beliefs