Music and Islam

[unitedmuslim73]

If you believe that music is forbidden to you, how could you function in the modern world? Everywhere I go there is music. Its in elevators. Its in shopping malls. Its on street corners. I can't control if I'll walk into it. Are muslim lands simply devoid of these things or are you to walk away or plug your ears or...?

Its true music is every where and you cant turn it off every time but you can avoid some places as long as you feel they are of less importance. But if you cant turn it off, you can simply ignore it. It is your intention which is important. if we make the intention of listening to music then indeed we are on the wrong path but if we are just shopping and some music is played, it is not our fault and Allah knows the best. But you can also download some Quranic recitation and play it using a music device and use head set.

 

[Rabi'ya]

it reminds me of a TopGear episode where the presenters all buy Leyland cars. they are parked in a car park and find the noises of the car. bangs and squeeks and start making a rhythm out of it. Just goes to show that there is music everywhere!

 

[tango92]

If you believe that music is forbidden to you, how could you function in the modern world? Everywhere I go there is music. Its in elevators. Its in shopping malls. Its on street corners. I can't control if I'll walk into it. Are muslim lands simply devoid of these things or are you to walk away or plug your ears or...?

personally i found it quite easy making this transition

1. places playing music are usually ones to avoid anyway, like night clubs
2. most music is on tv, as a muslim I find tv distasteful (waste of time etc) - thats just my opinion though.
3. its not like your shopping all the time though, and when yu do need to go youd be surprised how many shops dont play music.

apart from that music doesnt really interfere with my life so much. i guess its just the lifestyle difference as a muslim that sheilds you from evil

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

apart from that music doesnt really interfere with my life so much. i guess its just the lifestyle difference as a muslim that sheilds you from evil :shade:

Do you think music is evil?

Peace

 

[mammyluty]

i wanted to ask when the prophet peace be upon him arrived in madina the answar and muhajirun welcomed them wth taala alal badru while beating some sort of drum wth shakers on its sides.i know music is haram bt what about nasheed?was tala ala badru a nasheed?

second someone told me long time ago that in wedding walima where thereis only women present in a private place they can play drums n sing songs that only educate the bride about marriege benefit.is it true?

 

[Muslimlearner]

nasheed with no music is not haram,az well as dansing and singing with no music in weding with females in the room only

 

[tango92]

Greetings,


Do you think music is evil?

Peace

lol, i knew you might ask that. first i meant it as a general statement.

I think the content of most music these days is evil. and just listening to "clean" music is a waste of time which you could otherwise spend in worship. - this reminds me of one of my favourite surahs - no 103
1.By Time!,
2.Man is surely in loss
3.except those who believed and did good works, and exhorted one another to Truth, and exhorted one another to patience."

after a while you get a bit addicted to it (yep im speaking from personal experience from my days of ignorance.)

so i guess its a bit like chess in that regard

 

[unitedmuslim73]

nasheed with no music is not haram,az well as dansing and singing with no music in weding with females in the room only

Even the listening of nasheed is a highly debatable topic because the wordings are sometimes not correct and people might commit shirk. A simple example is the word 'Ya' before the prophet name. Allah has always address all prophets by word 'O' e.g O mohammad, O Ibrahim, O Moosa ( peace be upon them).

the word Ya is used only before ALLAH. we say Ya ALLah, for Allah is omnipresent but people give this status to the prophets and this is shirk...

Besides naats, nasheed, latmiyat can lure people easily, the prophet teach us that Quran recitation is the best guide for it contains of Allah, so why bother with words of his creation if we have words from the creator itself. not all nasheeds have wrong wordings but still it is not advisable the use of nasheeds inside masjid.

 

[OurIslamic]

^ English might not be your first language or something, but "He is the loved one" is not in any way past tense. Otherwise then what would "He WAS the loved one" be? There was no blasphemy in that statement or the words, and shirk is only when you associate worshipping other beings with God, no such intent or declaration was made in any way in that song.

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And God knows best

Jazakallah on saving me time from explaining this...I was about to go ballistic on this brother. :hiding:

 

[Uthman]

Brother unitedmuslim73, you're from Mauritius, right? My parents are also from Mauritius.

*Carry on*

 

[Kabeer]

,

lol, i knew you might ask that. first i meant it as a general statement.

I think the content of most music these days is evil. and just listening to "clean" music is a waste of time which you could otherwise spend in worship. - this reminds me of one of my favourite surahs - no 103
1.By Time!,
2.Man is surely in loss
3.except those who believed and did good works, and exhorted one another to Truth, and exhorted one another to patience."

after a while you get a bit addicted to it (yep im speaking from personal experience from my days of ignorance.)

so i guess its a bit like chess in that regard ;D

And online forums and general use of the internet. And pretty much any non-essential part of life?

Peace

 

[Uthman]

It is impossible to expect someone to understand why music is haram when s/he has not experienced the sweetness of the Quran. ~ Sheikh Yasir Qadhi

 

[Kabeer]

Uthman,

It is impossible to expect someone to understand why music is haram when s/he has not experienced the sweetness of the Quran. ~ Sheikh Yasir Qadhi

Please expand.

Peace.

 

[Uthman]

:wasalamex Kabeer,

Please expand.

I'm not sure I can, to be honest. What I can do is direct you towards the following thread where the issue is dealt with in a conclusive and holistic manner: http://www.islamicboard.com/worship-islam/20238-music-singing-light-quran-sunnah.html

 

[Kabeer]

:wasalamex Kabeer,



I'm not sure I can, to be honest. What I can do is direct you towards the following thread where the issue is dealt with in a conclusive and holistic manner: http://www.islamicboard.com/worship-islam/20238-music-singing-light-quran-sunnah.html

Wasalaam,

Thank you for the thread link.

I was more interested in the quote you gave. Am I to understand that you cannot expand on it because you don't fully understand it yourself, or rather it is inarticulatable?

Peace.

 

[Uthman]

:wasalamex

I was more interested in the quote you gave. Am I to understand that you cannot expand on it because you don't fully understand it yourself, or rather it is inarticulatable?

Neither. I just think it's rather self-explanatory. ;D

Having said that, I'm not aware of any explicit reason given in the Qur'an and/or Sunnah for why musical instruments are forbidden (not that there needs to be of course). So, from what I understand, Sheikh Yasir was talking about one of the benefits of musical instruments being forbidden and not necessarily the reason for it.

And Allah knows best.

I think I just expanded on it.

 

[Kabeer]

:wasalamex

Neither. I just think it's rather self-explanatory. ;D

Having said that, I'm not aware of any explicit reason given in the Qur'an and/or Sunnah for why musical instruments are forbidden (not that there needs to be of course). So, from what I understand, Sheikh Yasir was talking about one of the benefits of musical instruments being forbidden and not necessarily the reason for it.

And Allah knows best.

I think I just expanded on it.

Tbh that just confused me more . I dont think it is particularly self explanatory.
So the benefit is what? (im guessing that the benefit you speak of is you can not read the Quran instead?)

Peace.

 

[Uthman]

:salamext:

(im guessing that the benefit you speak of is you can not read the Quran instead?)

No, that's too general. More precisely, that it can be a factor in preventing a person from experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an.

Note that simply reading the Qur'an is one thing. But experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an is quite another. Many people have done the former. The latter not so many. When a person has truly experienced the sweetness of the Qur'an, then their soul would desire nothing else. I think that's at the heart of what the Sheikh is getting at.

Your objection to this would be that there are many other things which are halal that could prevent a person from experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an. Correct? Well, you're right and this is why I say that it is only a benefit of music being haraam and not necessarily the reason.

As for the main reason why a Muslim should not listen to musical instruments, then it is simple: because Allah and his messenger saws said so!

 

[جوري]

Actually Br. Uthman pls allow me..
Not only was I an avid music listener but I played a couple of instruments and used to take piano lessons twice a week.. When I decided that I needed to memorize the Quran, I started listening to Music less and less, and at some point it really became difficult to sit down and listen to any music at all.. I think there are only two pieces that I still adore, and the first one hardly has any instruments an ars nova of the middle ages entitled douce dame jolie usually by a solo artist with little music in the back ground..

It isn't something that is self-explanatory or can be explained in words, you'll find that it just happens, the same way grays in your hair just happen...

:wa:

 

[Kabeer]

:salamext:

No, that's too general. More precisely, that it can be a factor in preventing a person from experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an.

Note that simply reading the Qur'an is one thing. But experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an is quite another. Many people have done the former. The latter not so many. When a person has truly experienced the sweetness of the Qur'an, then their soul would desire nothing else. I think that's at the heart of what the Sheikh is getting at.

Your objection to this would be that there are many other things which are halal that could prevent a person from experiencing the sweetness of the Qur'an. Correct? Well, you're right and this is why I say that it is only a benefit of music being haraam and not necessarily the reason.

As for the main reason why a Muslim should not listen to musical instruments, then it is simple: because Allah and his messenger saws said so!

Indeed you grasped what my objection would be. But even if one experiences the sweetness then it still doesnt make sense to me. As that sweetness would also dull the desire for many other (halal) things too.

(as for the legality thing you know it's been done many times before, and that wasnt what I wanted to go into with you, so i'll leave alone the last part ).

Actually Br. Uthman pls allow me..
Not only was I an avid music listener but I played a couple of instruments and used to take piano lessons twice a week.. When I decided that I needed to memorize the Quran, I started listening to Music less and less, and at some point it really became difficult to sit down and listen to any music at all.. I think there are only two pieces that I still adore, and the first one hardly has any instruments an ars nova of the middle ages entitled douce dame jolie usually by a solo artist with little music in the back ground..

It isn't something that is self-explanatory or can be explained in words, you'll find that it just happens, the same way grays in your hair just happen...

:wa:

Salaams Gossamer Skye,

Thank you for that, that was indeed very helpful and relatable to me. And it makes perfect sense because I have experienced it in other things.

Also Gossamer, ignoring listening to music, what about the times you play music? Im not speaking robotically, the ones you learn by chore, but the times it moves you? You even found it difficult to appreciate that?

Peace,
Kabeer