Music and sex with slaves without marrying..

[mundo]

can explain slavery in Islam ?

I posted something on this topic on another forum. Take a look at that.

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223474&highlight=slave&page=7

 

[Eliphaz]

Chocci: before the thread is closed,

I just want to say that although I gave you that link "defending" music in Islam, my own position is moving towards all musical instruments being indeed haraam, so please do not think I am encouraging a pro-music stance. Rather I am encouraging a balanced decision, which one must look at both sides of the argument.

Just to give you perspective, I have played guitar for seven years and bass guitar for five years. I used to listen to all genres of music;, from old-school hiphop, to modern hiphop, to 'alternative', to rock, to metal, to pop music, to sufi moroccan music, to Pakistani bhangra, to folk to whatever-else-they-call-it.

At the end of the day if musical instruments are questionable then why risk it man.

I just want to say be careful how you 'validate' Islam. Just because Islam agrees with science that should not be your criteria. If science changes its stance that doesn't make Islam un-true.

 

[ChOcCi]

My life sucks.. Because I made this thread, I now feel guilty everytime I listen to music and I stopped although I dont want to

I mean, im the type of guy who ONLY listens to the good "lyriced songs" and non of them have any "sexual" or "drug abusing" themes in them.. Plus, if I stop listening to music now, ill be totally oblivious to what my friends are talking about half of the time..



P.S anyone know of any ACTUAL scholar who can help me out with my "sex with slaves" matter? All I want is reason, thats all.

 

[GreyKode]

I just want to say that although I gave you that link "defending" music in Islam, my own position is moving towards all musical instruments being indeed haraam, so please do not think I am encouraging a pro-music stance. Rather I am encouraging a balanced decision, which one must look at both sides of the argument.

Subhanallah, brother sincerely I loved your advise and I agree with it 100%, although I don't listen to music but I still consider your stance the most logical and balanced stance.
Barakallahu feek.

 

[GreyKode]

My life sucks.. Because I made this thread, I now feel guilty everytime I listen to music and I stopped although I dont want to

I mean, im the type of guy who ONLY listens to the good "lyriced songs" and non of them have any "sexual" or "drug abusing" themes in them.. Plus, if I stop listening to music now, ill be totally oblivious to what my friends are talking about half of the time..



P.S anyone know of any ACTUAL scholar who can help me out with my "sex with slaves" matter? All I want is reason, thats all.

brother don't make it hard on yourself, don't stop listening to music all at once, try doing it gradually, be regular in your prayers and your studies, and step by step you'll find yourself drifting away from music, try listening to Qur'an and reading it, helping your parents, your little brothers, there are so many good activities out there that you can keep yourself busy with, and insha'allah your addiction to music will go away naturally.
When you talk with your friends you don't have to put on the grimm face and say "Music is haram", go along with them and then slowly try to change the subject, to sports, games etc.

REMEMBER: DON'T BE HARSH on yourself, stopping listening to music is step no.100 when it comes to following your deen, make sure youre fine with the main things like the 5 daily prayers, """obeying your parents""", etc.
If you stop music and forget about the main issues, you'll be in grave error "dalal mubeen"

 

[Muhaba]

I accepted all other things said in Islam with a smile, but this "music is haram" and "you can have sex with your slaves without marrying" thing are the only two things that I cant stand for. How can such a thing be even allowed?

You should always look at the positive aspects. Allah gave rights to the slaves. POVs are given to the muslims who give them food, shelter, etc. Female Slaves are not raped by many soldiers (as is done by kafirs) but instead live with one owner. If the female slave has a child from her owner, he can't sell her and after his death she becomes free.

I don't know too much about slave-girls, but you should be cautious when you make statements like this cos the sahaba had slave girls and the Prophet SAW said about them:

"The best of my nation is my generation then those who follow them and then those who follow them." [Saheeh Bukhari]

I always wonder, were they allowed to have relations with only one slave or as many as they wanted? Was there a limit to the number?

The Prophet (SAW) freed all his female slaves and married them except for one, Marya (R), who had been a gift from an Egyptian Christian king. The Prophet (SAW) would've married her also but Allah forbade him to marry any more women so she remained a slave. But after that the Prophet (SAW) didn't take any more female slaves, as far as i know. Why was that? Was it because there is a limit to the number of slaves a man can have marital relations with? How many female slaves did the sahaba have at a time? Anyone know?

 

[Foxhole]

P.S anyone know of any ACTUAL scholar who can help me out with my "sex with slaves" matter? All I want is reason, thats all.

Countless armies have taken captured women as sex slaves throughout history. It's a time-honored motivator for warriors, and a reward for service.

 

[aamirsaab]

Slavery has been covered time and time again. Please use the search function. Your question on music has been answered too.

I can't think of anything witty to say right now so I'll just lock the thread. With a LOL.