muslim brotherhood

[Abz2000]

An unbiased dissection of the events of the last few days in egypt:

 

[Abz2000]

U.S. funding for Egyptian military

By William Wan, Published: March 16

The Obama administration intends to resume funding for Egypt’s military, despite congressional restrictions and objections from human rights and democracy advocates.

For months, the money for Egypt — more than $1.5 billion, with the bulk earmarked for the military — has been withheld amid that country’s crackdown on pro-democracy groups, including several U.S.-based organizations with close ties to political parties in Washington.

A law passed by Congress in December forbids funding unless the State Department certifies that Egypt is making progress on basic freedoms and human rights.

But Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is close to announcing plans to bypass those restrictions on national security grounds, according to senior administration officials and others who have been briefed on the deliberations but were not authorized to speak publicly. The administration believes failure to provide the funds would risk worsening already fraying ties with Egypt’s leaders, most notably the Egyptian military, which still controls the country.

Under the plan, which could be announced as early as next week and was first reported Friday by the New York Times, Egypt would not receive the full $1.5 billion all at once, as has been the practice for decades. The administration would instead dole out the funds in smaller portions to preserve leverage over Egyptian authorities, officials said. The plan would also allow for the continuation of U.S. defense contracts that provide American jobs.

With a presidential election coming in Egypt, officials said they are especially hesitant to release the full amount until they see what kind of government will be receiving it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fficials-say/2012/03/16/gIQAoMTeGS_story.html


The results of Egypt's presidential run-off has been delayed by the election authorities, further raising tension across the polarised country.

The Muslim Brotherhood called people into the square to voice their outrage over recent constitutional amendments which gave the Scaf sweeping political and legislative powers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18528121


Only the military are guaranteed victory in this Egyptian election
......Add to this the childish and arrogant claim by the army and its greedy field marshal, Mohamed Tantawi,
to hold on to all its privileges, no matter how Egyptians have voted, and today promises to be one of those bookmarkers that historians love.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ictory-in-this-egyptian-election-7870081.html

DOES ANYONE STILL BELIEVE THE LIES OF THE U.S GOVERNMENT AND THEIR ZIONIST CONTROLLERS?
"DEMOCRACY", THE "WILL OF THE PEOPLE", "FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS".

MAY ALLAH CONTINUE TO EXPOSE THEIR DECEITS UNTIL THE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND THEY ARE DEFEATED.

 

[جوري]

Qandeel the one on the left is brilliant.. I just watched another debate with him yesterday against one of the shafeeq campaign managers.. left him stuttering ..

 

[جوري]

 

[جوري]

found it at least.. if you speak Arabic this isn't a piece to miss:

 

[dysphoricrocker]

Salaam.

Would anyone care to summarize the situation in Egypt for people like me? I have totally no idea whats happening there and the news here do not cover much either.

 

[جوري]

Egypt is occupied politically by the U.S and Israel.
Israel takes Egyptian gas for free for the past three years, when they paid for it they paid around 2 pounds when the average Egyptian pays 50 pounds for it, Israel has killed and has been killing people in Sinai once an Egyptian Soldier in the Sinai desert killed the spies and instead of being rewarded Israel demanded he be punished imagine that he was doing his job anyhow he went to jail and while in jail Mubarak made sure he was killed by the Mossad. Mubarak has billions of Egyptian money he acquired it by selling slowly Egyptian land for the past 30 plus years of his reign while carrying on the tradition of torturing the Muslim brotherhood and imprisoning beating, killing them.. the political and economic situation got unbearable as the siggy of br. ABZ there say The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress

Frederick Douglas
anyhow the people revolted and the the counter revolution started by the military please distinguish between the Egyptian army which is conscript of the people and the military who are handpicked by Mubarak to continue his reign of terror upon the people robbing the land of everything, he closed every factory he sold it for pennies, he put the majority of working people out of job and turned Egypt into supermarkets. All talents had to leave outside to pursue their talent elsewhere and if they ever came back with a project he stole it, the guy you see on the video and anyone who has ever stood up to him got beaten or killed or imprisoned. The Egyptian people hand elected a parliament that was mostly the brotherhood and the military council dissolved it completely. rigged the election so that shafeeq would win except the brotherhood played their cards right and every time an election box closed they had the results as they came, and an independent judged panel also stated that Dr. Mursi won fair and square, Shafeeq former minister of the mubarak regime and has some 35 charges against him shouldn't be running for a presidency at all but of course America and Israel and the evil its of Egypt want him, so they've been playing on people psychologically.
Firstly the military fixed it so that they stay in charge that the president has less power than the queen of England in case Mursi does come in and after dissolving the parliament.
So it is either old regime or nothing, they proclaim that the race is tight meanwhile it is rigged the results were supposed to be released today and already Mursi and major newspapers and independent judges declared his win and the other turd shafeeq files charges, even though
1- he's a criminal
2- represents the old regime and has no legitimacy or even accolades to run
3- has forced members of the military to vote for him under threat I know because most of my family are in the air force etc. and were given orders to vote for him and they're not to vote at all, plus dead people vote and God knows what else
4- is making this about 'civil' vs 'religious' state when it is NOT the identity or Egypt and its constitution are not in question as article 2 of it renders it an Islamic country and its law is sharia so there's no hijack as he proclaims the brotherhood is backwards etc. In fact the lowest member of the brotherhood is more educated than the most educated of them even if they're not politically savvy mursi has a doctorate in engineering and taught in universities in the U.S but they always always on the news intellectually bully people or frighten them of Muslims, as if we're not Muslims.. so it is just a counter revolution going on sponsored by the devil and their pawns in Egypt which isn't representative of what the Egyptians want and in hopes of making it a civil war of some sort at the end..
that's it in a nutshell..

 

[dysphoricrocker]

Whoa. Thank you for that insight sister(i really can't figure out your name). At least now i have a better idea of the situation there.

 

[جوري]

Jazaka Allah khyran.. you've an equally enigmatic name :coolious:

 

[جوري]

live feed:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/user/aljazeerachannel/featured[/video]

 

[MohamedMaghrebi]

as I said in other topics , giving the muslim brotherhood this chance , to lead egypt , is a good thing , but the problem that they should re discuss some of their ideas , not to please the western but , to show that there decisions are not influenced by their references , espicialy in egypte where an important part of the population are not muslim .

 

[جوري]

espicialy in egypte where an important part of the population are not muslim .

only 10% of Egypt isn't Muslim.. and no country's constitution is based on the exception. Fact that mursi is taking of these Christians in judicial, possibly parliamentary and other decision making positions is very disturbing.
Very disturbing to have nude beaches and banks of usury in a country that is predominantly Muslim and should govern by Islamic law. Usually even in the wonderful notion of 'democracy' which is supremely inferior to an Islamic shura system, the rule of 50+1 usurps that of 50-1, but here we're actually fixing it so that minority desire is supreme law of the land?
that makes no sense

 

[MohamedMaghrebi]

only 10% of Egypt isn't Muslim.. and no country's constitution is based on the exception. Fact that mursi is taking of these Christians in judicial, possibly parliamentary and other decision making positions is very disturbing.
Very disturbing to have nude beaches and banks of usury in a country that is predominantly Muslim and should govern by Islamic law. Usually even in the wonderful notion of 'democracy' which is supremely inferior to an Islamic shura system, the rule of 50+1 usurps that of 50-1, but here we're actually fixing it so that minority desire is supreme law of the land?
that makes no sense

10% is an important proportion .
and the issue here is not to choose between god law and people law , god laws have always been a mercy for univer ,egypte can't leave isolated from the world , brotherhood governement will do business with US and Europe they will them leave choice , how can you imagine them meeting European and western leaders and their slogan is :'' wa a3ido '' .

 

[جوري]

10% is an important proportion .
and the issue here is not to choose between god law and people law , god laws have always been a mercy for univer ,egypte can't leave isolated from the world , brotherhood governement will do business with US and Europe they will them leave choice , how can you imagine them meeting European and western leaders and their slogan is :'' wa a3ido '' .

The same way they meet us with slogans like these:

In fact I can't wait to see that sort of slap in the face to these western spawn of satan!

 

[MohamedMaghrebi]

The same way they meet us with slogans like these:


In fact I can't wait to see that sort of slap in the face to these western spawn of satan!

Im sorry but demonizing the west is not the solution , we have to admit that as muslims have some efforts to do to deal whit others countries and politics , im not saying that they should change the basics of religions , but we need a reform , reforming the understanding , reforming the mentalities , reforming the speech ...

 

[جوري]

Im sorry but demonizing the west is not the solution , we have to admit that as muslims have some efforts to do to deal whit others countries and politics , im not saying that they should change the basics of religions , but we need a reform , reforming the understanding , reforming the mentalities , reforming the speech ...

I don't see laying out the fact as demonization. I see it as met in kind!
You are right in that we need to reform by getting rid completely of the tentacles of a kaffir system that has infiltrated every aspect of our society to khilafah Rashida in shaa Allah.. I am not of the notion of waiting for a savior!

best

 

[MohamedMaghrebi]

I don't see laying out the fact as demonization. I see it as met in kind!
You are right in that we need to reform by getting rid completely of the tentacles of a kaffir system that has infiltrated every aspect of our society to khilafah Rashida in shaa Allah.. I am not of the notion of waiting for a savior!

best

it's not really what i meant , but if this is your project why not ...

today in most Muslim countries or in the west , the notion of a pluralist society , became a necessity , that '' kaffir system'' has better laws than our ''muslim'' systems regarding humain right , dignity , equity between poeples , while in our muslim countries we are too far from those notions .

not all whats comes from them is evil , rassol sws said about hilf afudul ''If I am summoned to it during the Islamic era, I will accept it.'' .

 

[جوري]

it's not really what i meant , but if this is your project why not ...

today in most Muslim countries or in the west , the notion of a pluralist society , became a necessity , that '' kaffir system'' has better laws than our ''muslim'' systems regarding humain right , dignity , equity between poeples , while in our muslim countries we are too far from those notions .

not all whats comes from them is evil , rassol sws said about hilf afudul ''If I am summoned to it during the Islamic era, I will accept it.'' .

Problem with what you say, is that you presume that there are 'Muslim countries' in fact all of them are running on kuffr system, so if you find nepotism, lack of dignity, and no equality know that, it is what was exported from foreign constitutions mired in ignorance, xenophobia, class stratification and schisms. Islam in fact has rid and demands that we rid of all those things. We've tried kaffir law all of this, deceleration and backhandedness isn't borne of an Islamic system. Rather a kaffir.
Perhaps you can offer a hadith to the example you used above to cross reference.

 

[MohamedMaghrebi]

Problem with what you say, is that you presume that there are 'Muslim countries' in fact all of them are running on kuffr system, so if you find nepotism, lack of dignity, and no equality know that, it is what was exported from foreign constitutions mired in ignorance, xenophobia, class stratification and schisms. Islam in fact has rid and demands that we rid of all those things. We've tried kaffir law all of this, deceleration and backhandedness isn't borne of an Islamic system. Rather a kaffir.
Perhaps you can offer a hadith to the example you used above to cross reference.

really , ''kaffir laws'' embodies dictatorship and ignorance, xenophobia, class stratification and schisms , i am not sure , i been discriminated in my muslim country but naver in west , i've seen brother and sister be tortured in my country prisons but never those of Europe or US , so we have to stop that this polarization Kaffir/Muslim , and be honest and humble in our way to judge our politics , patriotism is not an excuse to defend them .

 

[جوري]

really , ''kaffir laws'' embodies dictatorship and ignorance, xenophobia, class stratification and schisms , i am not sure , i been discriminated in my muslim country but naver in west , i've seen brother and sister be tortured in my country prisons but never those of Europe or US , so we have to stop that this polarization Kaffir/Muslim , and be honest and humble in our way to judge our politics , patriotism is not an excuse to defend them .

Yup it sure does.. perhaps it pays to watch the news sometimes? familiarize yourself with anti niqab laws, Guantanamo bay, prisoners held without trial or charge like Babar Ahmad, or concocted crimes like Afifa Siddiqui or Tareq Mehanna and thousands of others like them, random death toward Muslims simply for being Muslims like against Dr. marwa shirbini or taxi drivers for sporting a beard, anti minaret laws, anti sharia laws (in 26 states and rising).. You must live in some sort of bubble? The prisons exist in your country to torture your brothers and sisters are so set to please your western masters, when they took their troops out, they left their political agenda in.
I am not sure on whose behalf you speak when you talk of polarization or even patriotism. As Islam doesn't condone either but is certainly condemns injustice which seems to me you are keen to perpetuate without a root analysis of why the current systems fail.. east or west!