Muslim Children Raped and Tortured in Filtration Camps

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^ Bro, many non-muslims will always differentiate between their women and children and Muslim women children.
Its the only way they can get away with electing mass-murderers of Muslim women and children eg. Bush, Putin, Sharon.

You must remember our raped and killed people are collateral damage - its not a big issue for them.
 
^ Bro, many non-muslims will always differentiate between their women and children and Muslim women children.
Its the only way they can get away with electing mass-murderers of Muslim women and children eg. Bush, Putin, Sharon.

You must remember our raped and killed people are collateral damage - its not a big issue for them.

In one aspect you are correct, Americans, English, Israelis, etc put a higher priority on their innocents than others. However, that is the same with any country, whether it be the U.S. or Iran. Did the 3,000 people who died on 9-11 have more significance for me than the Iraqi civilian deaths that occurred as a result of the war? Yes, I admit that. I just don't see how that is any different than anyone else on this forum. It depends on where you are coming from. That doesn't mean I don't care about Iraqi civilians, it is simply a matter of what I can relate to and what affects me personally.
 
Dealing with Godless Russians is a very tough task for Chechens. May the road ahead be paved gracefully for them.


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In one aspect you are correct, Americans, English, Israelis, etc put a higher priority on their innocents than others. However, that is the same with any country, whether it be the U.S. or Iran. Did the 3,000 people who died on 9-11 have more significance for me than the Iraqi civilian deaths that occurred as a result of the war? Yes, I admit that. I just don't see how that is any different than anyone else on this forum. It depends on where you are coming from. That doesn't mean I don't care about Iraqi civilians, it is simply a matter of what I can relate to and what affects me personally

At least your honest.

Why do you think these people vote in mass-murderers then claimsinnocence when people say they are to blame too? Seems odd.

Also I dont understand the numbers either.

Despite the massive bias for fellow non-muslims against Muslims - how can such people possibly pretend to be outraged by something relatively small like Beslan when for the previous decade they have been ignoring the massive slaughter of muslim children just a few miles to the east of Beslan?
 
At least your honest.

Why do you think these people vote in mass-murderers then claimsinnocence when people say they are to blame too? Seems odd.

Also I dont understand the numbers either.

Despite the massive bias for fellow non-muslims against Muslims - how can such people possibly pretend to be outraged by something relatively small like Beslan when for the previous decade they have been ignoring the massive slaughter of muslim children just a few miles to the east of Beslan?

Relatively small? The intentional slaughter of hundreds of children is very far from a "relatively small" event. What made Beslan so horrifying to the rest of the world wasn't the fact it happened to be Russian children, it was the act itself. A primary factor was the available media coverage of the event, where there were no cameras involved with the atrocities committed by the Russians. Reading something in print and watching it unfold on your television are two different things. Any human being with a soul is affected by the death of children, regardless whether they are Muslim, Hindu, or anything else. Beslan seemed so awful because it was a premeditated act of cruelty against children. At a school during a day the terrorists knew would bring more children into their hands. The intentional wholesale slaughter of children isn't going to win you any friends, and in this case it surely didn't help the Chechen cause at all.
 
We all need to keep in mind that even the most tolerant of us, still has some degree of bias. The atrocities done against our own people do seem to be much worse then the atrocities our own people do to others. It is all a matter of perspective.

Atrocities are atrocities no matter who commits them. They are not the actions of a person who follows what they believe to be right or wrong. They are the actions of a person who is finding self gratification out of hurting others.

Yes we all have a tendency to pray for our brethren first. It is not lack of concern over the pain of others, it is because we believe we identify with our kin better than we can identify a stranger.
 
Did I imply that you hate non-Muslims? I think not. Nor do I assume that you hate non-Muslims.

I assume though that you only care about Muslims and have little concern about the plight of any non-Muslim.

You pray for Muslims. I think that is an indicator of your quality. I too pray for Muslims. Also I pray for non-Muslims. Do you pray for non-Muslims?

Wilberhum, i see where you are coming from..

..but is this really neccessary? Does it really matter at this stage wether Fi_Sabilillah prays for Non-muslims as well as Muslims? The title IS "Muslim Children..." so he made a prayer for The Muslims.

Please, if you wish to, go ahead and create a new thread, stop derailing this thread.

Thank You.

As for the topic at hand, it is truly sad. Kheir, May allah swt grant us ALL the Hikma ( wisdom ) that we desire and the Hidayat ( Guidance ) that we all require.

Wa'salaam.
 
Relatively small? The intentional slaughter of hundreds of children is very far from a "relatively small" event.

Yes relatively small. It was very bad but compared to the amount of children killed in Chechnya, relatively Beslan was small/


What made Beslan so horrifying to the rest of the world wasn't the fact it happened to be Russian children, it was the act itself.

No, it was the very fact that it was non-muslim Russians that led to the out-cry.

If it was the act itself, the wold would have been outraged for the previous decade when tens of thousands of Chechn children were being slaughtered and raped.

Beslan taught us that to non-muslim citizens all children are NOT equal and some are more important than others.

A primary factor was the available media coverage of the event, where there were no cameras involved with the atrocities committed by the Russians.

Are you saying that every non-muslims is that fickle?

And whose fault is it that the non-muslim organisations dont think Chechn children being slaughtered and raped is a stroy worth covering?

Any human being with a soul is affected by the death of children, regardless whether they are Muslim, Hindu, or anything else. Beslan seemed so awful because it was a premeditated act of cruelty against children. At a school during a day the terrorists knew would bring more children into their hands.

I suppose Russias rape of little Muslim girls and slaughter of thouands of Muslim children isnt enough to describe the Russians and Putin as "terrorists"?

Why do you possibly think this is? Double standards maybe?

The intentional wholesale slaughter of children isn't going to win you any friends, and in this case it surely didn't help the Chechen cause at all.

Well apart from the fact that it wasnt they who slaughtered the children, i agree with you. Beslan should never have happened and im glad Shamil offered to pay the ultimate price for it.

As for "didnt help the Chechen cause" at all, i dont think that really matters.

Who was helping in the first place? Nobody.
Who was trying to stop the rape and murder of Chechen children in the first place? Nobody.

Even "islamic" groups like Hamas stabbed the nation in the back. Btw i think Hamas supports the rape and murder of these little children.

So the fact their was no support in the first place means they didnt lose much. I even think if they did have even a little support, they wuoldnt have carried out Beslan - just a personal opinion.

May Allah (swt) grant the children of Beslan paradise and bring ease to their suffering parents. Ameen
 
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