Muslim family receives anonymous hate letter

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Quruxbadaan said:
i dont think you understand what you said either
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Hi Quruxbadaan

What a strange thing to say. I understand perfectly well what I say, but perhaps we best not get into that here.
According to sonz' request I have stopped posting off-topic posts in this thread ... until now, of course. :rollseyes

I have sent a PM to sonz and I am waiting for his reply. Until then, there is not much else I have to say.

peace.
 
salama

jzk br. isaac and others.

thnx for ur pm glo. it shows ur kind spirit as opposed to sirzubair who insulted me in a pm. but lets get back to the topic

this hateful letter can turn in to a hateful crime. lets remember the afro americans in the 60's and 70's. they were threatend with hateful letters than hate crimes followed after that.

its true now that muslims in america are the new "afro americans from the 60's and 70's"

masalama
 
sonz said:
its true now that muslims in america are the new "afro americans from the 60's and 70's"
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How is that true? Martin Luther King struggled for human rights for African Americans. He did not kill anyone. Booker Taliaferro Washington and George Washington Carver worked to help improve the condition of African Americans. They did not kill anyone either. I do not recall a single plot by a single African American to murder White Americans until the 60s. I do not know of a single incident where African Americans planned to overthrow the government of the United States. You see the small difference here? Which of these two communities has produced radicals involved in terrorism lately?
 
sonz said:
salama

jzk br. isaac and others.

thnx for ur pm glo. it shows ur kind spirit as opposed to sirzubair who insulted me in a pm. but lets get back to the topic

this hateful letter can turn in to a hateful crime. lets remember the afro americans in the 60's and 70's. they were threatend with hateful letters than hate crimes followed after that.

its true now that muslims in america are the new "afro americans from the 60's and 70's"
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Interesting comparison, since from an economic point of view Muslims in the US are actually better off then white Christians. Black Americans really were worse off, and they didn't fly planes into any buildings.

For those here who like to wallow in their perceived victimhood, might I make a suggestion for a nice startup tune for windows: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/6537/repressed.wav :thankyou:
 
Respect to sonz for awakening me to the reality so often.

JazakAllah khair bro, i read almost every article u post mashAllah.


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Originally Posted by sonz
its true now that muslims in america are the new "afro americans from the 60's and 70's"
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HeiGou said:
How is that true? Martin Luther King struggled for human rights for African Americans. He did not kill anyone. Booker Taliaferro Washington and George Washington Carver worked to help improve the condition of African Americans. They did not kill anyone either. I do not recall a single plot by a single African American to murder White Americans until the 60s. I do not know of a single incident where African Americans planned to overthrow the government of the United States. You see the small difference here? Which of these two communities has produced radicals involved in terrorism lately?
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Are you suggesting that all Muslims kill people, plan to overthrow the United States government and spend their evenings radicalising youths?

That is the overall tone of your argument.

Also, keep in mind that during the 60's and 70's - blacks were considered to be violent, barbaric, uncivilised, prone to criminal activity etc...

Sonz analogy is accurate and fair enough. You're intelligent enough to see that.
 
HeiGou said:
How is that true? Martin Luther King struggled for human rights for African Americans. He did not kill anyone. Booker Taliaferro Washington and George Washington Carver worked to help improve the condition of African Americans. They did not kill anyone either. I do not recall a single plot by a single African American to murder White Americans until the 60s. I do not know of a single incident where African Americans planned to overthrow the government of the United States. You see the small difference here? Which of these two communities has produced radicals involved in terrorism lately?
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Perhaps terroristic radicals are responsible only for their own actions and are not the product of a community.
 
Quruxbadaan said:
I dont understand your objection to his posting interesting articles in forums glo its seems as tho you would rather ignore what is going on in the world today
Im glad he posted it its interesting to know, its sad that these things are happening,but its benificial to know about some of these incidences from closed minded kufars may Allah the most hight guide them back to the Truth Ameen
I dont understand how that article will cause devision and spread religious ratial hate truthfully i dont think you understand what you said either
Peace
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Hi Quruxbadaan,
Although you have addressed your post to glo, there were a few of us that expressed the same sentiment, so I think you will understand me offering my own answer to your post.
Speaking for myself, I would say I don't so much object to his posts, as I only questioned his motives. He has since offered his point of view, and I will have to accept that that is what it is.
I suppose part of my question was developed from the same observation that HeiGou made. The one about the fact that the rules have been altered so that articles shedding any bad light on a muslim are now not allowed. Yet, it seems to be open season on the kufar. Of coarse, it is a muslim run website, and can be run any way the administrator and mods see fit.
However, the same people running the forum have made it clear that nonmuslims are welcome and should feel comfortable posting here. Yet, the rules allow for articles to be posted that are possibly offensive to these guests, and no such articles are allowed to be posted about muslims. And it seemed, although it has been explained by sonz that it is not quite the case, that a mod was taking advantage of what seem like unfair rules to cause resentful feelings toward nonmuslims. So, of coarse, nonmuslims will end up not feeling very welcome.
I am not taking issue with the rules, I am only offering an observation on the way things may seem.

Now, as far as the letter goes to the family (the topic, remember?!), I think it was very likely a prank by some disgruntled, bigoted neighbor. And was unlikely to be of any real concern, but the family did the right thing in turning it over to the police. You never know.
 
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sonz said:
its not a black and white world, enuff said. and i dont see u posting anything "bright". i post anything that is discussable since this is a forum. if u dont like it, then dont post or post ur own topics. im just sick of hearing u complain that im the only one allowed to post and others not.



glo

attacks of islamophobia has been ignored. ur coming across like muslims are having isolated incidents that any other non-muslim has while muslims have been discriminated since the 9/11.

this is a muslim forum and if any muslims are discriminated i will post it. if non-muslims are discriminated i will post it as long as it generates discussion.

people can post up their own articles and topics. its a free forum. no more offtopic posts after this pls or pm me.

masalama
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I agree with sonz. If the mainstream news don't want to report these types of incidents someone has to tell the other people. Anyone can post what they like as long as they don't break the rules.
 
I believe if you look through all the threads you will find that this forum is quite fair in presenting truth, pro and con. The emphasis does seem to be highly aimed towards keeping any member from bashing or slandering any other member. There are no seperate rules for Muslim and non-Muslim members.

Now back to the topic, quoting Panatella:

Now, as far as the letter goes to the family (the topic, remember?!), I think it was very likely a prank by some disgruntled, bigoted neighbor. And was unlikely to be of any real concern, but the family did the right thing in turning it over to the police. You never know.
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That could very well be the case. Another explanation, some people on the street may just be paranoid from media hype. Was unaware as to why there were so many people coming and going at the house, they paniced and reacted erroneously. However, it is best the police werecalled in. Chances can not be taken.
 
KAding said:
But then again, they shouldn't get there news from just one source anyway, so I'm not sure we can blame sonz for that!
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Nice point! i think what sonz is trying to do, is to let us know both sides of the story.. which is very fair thing. I find nothing wrong with that. Even if the same story occured in another continent, it must be pointed out and brought to notice. Ignoring it, will only result in more hatred towards the victims.
 
sonz said:
It reads, "Muslims go home to your country. You are not welcome in our community. Is your weekends training for making bombs? How many bomb experts you have living with you? Muslims get out NOW."
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Actually i spend my weekends in Afghanistan with my uncle Mr Laden making muffins!

Sorry it deserves a stupid response!
 
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Yet, it seems to be open season on the kufar.
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The rules are there regarding the principles of the religion not muslim indiviuals apart from founders, let me ask you this a non-muslim's religion isn't brought up they're actions are so why make the comparison?
 
"Muslims go home to your country. You are not welcome in our community. Is your weekends training for making bombs? How many bomb experts you have living with you? Muslims get out NOW."
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I AM in my country. O well deal with it. Yes it is would you like to join? We've got quite a few experts living with us. Nope sorry mate cant do that.

P.S. This is a JOKE. :rollseyes
 
azim said:
Are you suggesting that all Muslims kill people, plan to overthrow the United States government and spend their evenings radicalising youths?
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I am not remotely suggesting that - any more than I would suggest that all White people lynched Black people in the South. But some did.

That is the overall tone of your argument.
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No that's your interpretation, and a very convenient one at that, of my argument. It means you do not have to deal with it or even think about it.

Also, keep in mind that during the 60's and 70's - blacks were considered to be violent, barbaric, uncivilised, prone to criminal activity etc...

Sonz analogy is accurate and fair enough. You're intelligent enough to see that.
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And yet Blacks were undoubtedly the victims and White undoubtedly came to see them that way in the 60s and 70s.
 

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