Muslim parents Appeal Over Baby Named Jihad

[SilentObserver]

LOL! OMG! ;D Who would name their son Osama bin laden! :rollseyes

Anyway, I honestly think they shouldn't name their son Jihad- it is something pretty tactless considering they live in a place where the word has evil connotations. If they lived in the middle east, then okay fair enough, go nuts, but honestly, why do they want to cause so much trouble for the child.

I'm not saying they should abandon all Muslims names, but seriously... think of the child!

Exactly.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Not my fault people are amazingly dumb. If someone told me I should keep the name, I have no problem. But I already got better names in mind.

 

[Malaikah]

Why the hell does it matter. If u like it, keep it.

It matters because they are deliberately putting the child in a very difficult situation.

If a mature male wanted to take on the name Jihad, knowing full well the consequence, then hey, no problem. But it isn't fair for them to put their son into such a position.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

As if people aren't afraid of other names, so technically it really does not change anything. Being Muslim is enough for another to be assaulted. So it doesnt make a difference. If the person doesnt hate u being a Muslim, chances are they wont hate your name. If people choose not to keep that name, thats their choice. Dont think people havent already done it. The parents arent putting them in a difficult situation, its the ignorance of the media and others who make it difficult. It isnt fair that we should be put in the situation. So people need to quit blaming the name which has existed way before half the ignorant people and take a look at their disgusting behavior.

 

[SilentObserver]

Being Muslim is enough for another to be assaulted.

Being hindu is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being christian is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being sikh is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being black is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being white is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being arab is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being oriental is enough for another to be assaulted.

POINT: Stop whining. Stop pretending muslims are victims any more than anyone else. Everybody gets victimized as much as anybody else, it just depends on where you are.

 

[Malaikah]

As if people aren't afraid of other names, so technically it really does not change anything. Being Muslim is enough for another to be assaulted. So it doesnt make a difference. If the person doesnt hate u being a Muslim, chances are they wont hate your name. If people choose not to keep that name, thats their choice. Dont think people havent already done it. The parents arent putting them in a difficult situation, its the ignorance of the media and others who make it difficult. It isnt fair that we should be put in the situation. So people need to quit blaming the name which has existed way before half the ignorant people and take a look at their disgusting behavior.

Sis, come on, it isn't that simple. Most non-Muslims associate jihad with terrorism. It is unfortunate, but hey, that's reality for you.

Alhamdulillah, a lot of them realise that most Muslims are just normal people like everyone else, so they won't mind Muslim names so much, but we shouldn't be so optimistic as to think that the word jihad itself will be viewed in such a way.

 

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U know what? Half the non-muslims don't even know what Jhad means, And Muslims know it means to Strive in the Way of Allah, so I don't even know whats the big deal :rollseyes

 

[Muslim Knight]

Jihad means "Struggle or Strive". If you translate holy war into Arabic, it sounds something like, "Harb al-Quddus" which is unheard of in Islam. Holy war is Western concept introduced by Crusaders with their battle cry, "God wills it!"

When we talk jihad we talk about in various aspects in life. We talk about jihad in;

1. Our life, how do we struggle (jihad) to succeed
2. In our studies, we struggle to pass & score exams
3. In our marriage, we struggle to find happiness
4. In battles, we struggle for victory (who wants to lose?)
5. In business, we struggle to make it profitable and successful
6. etc., you get the idea

So, the idea of Jihad is not solely confined to war, but it is the urging in the Quran, telling Muslims to succeed in all good things. We have a mission, and that is to make Islam prevail, by good da'wah and good character!


p/s - I love bro Fi_Sabilillah's explanation on jihad.

 

[AHMED_GUREY]

Originally Posted by Jazzy

As if people aren't afraid of other names, so technically it really does not change anything. Being Muslim is enough for another to be assaulted.

Being hindu is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Hindu's were immune!

Being christian is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Christians were immune

Being sikh is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Sikhs were immune

Being black is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Blacks were immune

Being white is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Whites were immune

Being arab is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Arabs were immune

Being oriental is enough for another to be assaulted.

She never said Orientals were immune

POINT: Stop whining. Stop pretending

Do you know the meaning of the phrase protest 2 much?

It's when you read more into someone elses remarks than what was actually said (revealing something that you are sensitive or insecure about, while having little to do with what was actually said.)

POINT: stop projecting your insecurities at Jazzy there must be a different reason for you highlighting the before mentioned groups when Jazzy neither claimed Muslims had it worse or were more victimized then other groups so what is it?

 

[KAding]

Why should Western context or definition of Jihad matter when its wrong in the first place? The West considers Jihad to mean holy war, which is not right. So why should a person not keep the name because someone mis defines it?

It is not 'wrong' to define Jihad as holy war. This is not a Western invention. Muslims have used the word in that way for centuries, and on this forum most do use it in that way as well. It might have more meanings, but that doesn't mean it doesn't mean holy war as well. From the article it is very clear the father of the boy is attracted to the name for that very reason.

 

[Showkat]

Salaams and hi

Words like Jihad and Usamah etc have certain meanings and connotations with non-Muslims in todays climate, but who can predict when the child goes to school that their wouldn't be a new enemy and bogeyman for the west? before islam it was Communism, maybe the west will turn on each other in the future once they run out of enemies

Also i think that some people in the west need to get used to the fact that Muslims in Europe are here to stay and we will hold onto our values and customs regardless of the coercion from western Governments.

Yes we as Muslims will integrate and contribute to the societies in which we live but not at the cost of losing our identitiy.

So we will name our kids after islamic heroes past and present, and non-Muslims can anme thier kids after whoever they like we have no problems with that at all because we are tollerant towards other cultures and faiths.

 

[cihad]

why you all fighting over my name!! i luv it!

anyway i think it is the intention of the father that matters, from what i've read here it seems like he wants to give the name to attract attention
etcetera...

if he wants to give it so that his son will grow to be a good mujahid...its all in his intentions.

you are supposed to give names to children that have good meanings

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

It is not 'wrong' to define Jihad as holy war. This is not a Western invention. Muslims have used the word in that way for centuries, and on this forum most do use it in that way as well. It might have more meanings, but that doesn't mean it doesn't mean holy war as well. From the article it is very clear the father of the boy is attracted to the name for that very reason.

It is a Western invention, because thats how the West translates it as.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Being hindu is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being christian is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being sikh is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being black is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being white is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being arab is enough for another to be assaulted.
Being oriental is enough for another to be assaulted.

POINT: Stop whining. Stop pretending muslims are victims any more than anyone else. Everybody gets victimized as much as anybody else, it just depends on where you are.

Dude, u have serious issues. Quit dragging my post. We r talking about Muslims no one else. If the article was about a Christian, Sikh, Hindu, Jewish name then I would have said the same thing. I feel sorry for u and ur messed up mind.

 

[Muezzin]

I see from the story posted in the first post that the names 'Hitler' and 'Stalin' are banned. Would people be allowed to name their kids 'Polpot', 'Idi Amin' or 'Genghis Khan'? No mention of those. I wonder if there's a toddler named 'Rasputin' waddling about somewhere, playing in a sandbox with his buddies 'Nikita Kruschev' and 'Vlad the Impaler'...

 

[NoName55]

I see from the story posted in the first post that the names 'Hitler' and 'Stalin' are banned. Would people be allowed to name their kids 'Polpot', 'Idi Amin' or 'Genghis Khan'? No mention of those. I wonder if there's a toddler named 'Rasputin' waddling about somewhere...

:happy:

 

[snakelegs]

i'm curious - is jihad commonly used as a first name among muslims? i have never run in to it.
i think it would be wrong to use your kid for a political platform by giving a name that's going to bring him nothing but trouble living in the west, but i don't really think the government should stick its nose in either.
now osama, i think is a really pretty name. but i wouldn't name a kid that if i lived in the west.

 

[Malaikah]

^Yeh, it is common enough.

The name Osama should be okay enough, but to name some Osama Bin laden, that is just nuts.:uuh:

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Wow, I cant believe how scared everyone is. Well yea, if u use the name for political reasons, then thats definitely wrong. But if people like it, then stop buggin over it for goodness sake. Its like saying, dont let your daughter wear the Hijab because it causes trouble for them and will have to face harassment. Seriously.

 

[snakelegs]

^Yeh, it is common enough.

The name Osama should be okay enough, but to name some Osama Bin laden, that is just nuts.:uuh:

well, if it's a common name, that makes it different and easier to understand - like maybe the guy is naming his kid after his great grandfather or something. still, why make life harder - you could give it as a middle name.
well, yes....osama bin laden would never do for a name! what does "osama" mean, by the way?