Muslim Unity: Why Cant We Come Together As One Ummah?

don't worry, it will be easy soon to notice the difference between the believers and the rejecters,
when certain people appear, the jews will either follow the messiah or reject, the christians will either follow jesus or reject, and the shiah's will either accept the mahdi or reject,
each claims allegiance to the respective names, the truth will be easy to see...........................................and those who reject will fall into the party of the "one eyed king",

remember the old saying?

in the land of the blind - the one eyed man is king.
 
The most beautiful moment for Muslims is the moment when Muslims perform salah jama'ah in masjid.

Look, you can see Muslims who put their hands on belly, Muslims who put their hands on chest, or even Muslims who do not fold their hands. Ask them why they put their hands on belly, why put hands on chest, why do not fold the hands ?, all of them will answer, this is the right way to perform salah.

They follow different opinion, they follow different fiqh, but these diversities do not prevent them to build a unity.

The key to build unity is accept diversity.
 
as good intentioned this unity concept sounds, I have no interest in uniting with agnostic Muslims, atheist Muslims, secular Muslims, with progressive liberal Muslims, with ex-Muslims, with mulhids, with ahmadis/qadiyanis, with Lahori group, with Quraniites/hadith rejectors, with shiites, with gay Muslims, and with feminist Muslims. Acceptance of such diversity only exists in delusions.
 
CosmicPathos said:
as good intentioned this unity concept sounds, I have no interest in uniting with agnostic Muslims, atheist Muslims, secular Muslims, with progressive liberal Muslims, with ex-Muslims, with mulhids, with ahmadis/qadiyanis, with Lahori group, with Quraniites/hadith rejectors, with shiites, with gay Muslims, and with feminist Muslims. Acceptance of such diversity only exists in delusions.
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There is difference between diversity and deviation.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Vision;

Unity starts with prayer, we must be able to pray for each other and with each other, that we might all acheive salvation despite our differences.

In the spirit of praying to the One God that created each and every one of us, with all our differences.

Eric
 
We can come together but, we don't want to come together. People are too arrogant and ignorant to give up their ancestral false beliefs and accept the reality. Even if it is for the sake of Allah, astaghfirullah. I don't understand how Muslims have actually divided themselves up! If all Muslims start living like the way Muslims should live i.e. by following the Quran and Sunnah, then there will be no difference amongst us. It's just like what our beloved Prophet (PBUH) said, to get hold of the Quran and Sunnah or else you'll go astray. Sadly, this is case for many Muslims today... they've gone astray.
 
peace_maker said:
We can come together but, we don't want to come together. People are too arrogant and ignorant to give up their ancestral false beliefs and accept the reality. Even if it is for the sake of Allah, astaghfirullah. I don't understand how Muslims have actually divided themselves up! If all Muslims start living like the way Muslims should live i.e. by following the Quran and Sunnah, then there will be no difference amongst us. It's just like what our beloved Prophet (PBUH) said, to get hold of the Quran and Sunnah or else you'll go astray. Sadly, this is case for many Muslims today... they've gone astray.
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The trouble is you will not meet anyone from the major sects such as ahlal hadith, sufism, deobandi's, who doesn't claim to follow the Qur'an and sunnah, they all claim to follow the Qur'an and sunnah, where they differ is in their understanding of the Qur'an and sunnah. They differ on aqeedah, on stuff like "where is Allah" are Allah's attributes to be understood literally or metaphorically etc this is the problem, they all differ on aqeedah but all claim to follow Qur'an and sunnah.

And they bash each other over the issues I mentioned above.
 
Tragic Typos said:
We're humans. We will always find something to disagree about. In what way do you want Muslims to unite?
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In the way of Allah. We are humans and we do disagree. But we have the right to disagree in worldly matters only, not in the rules laid by Allah. We must follow it the way it is, not go over a debate or an arguement.
 
^ I agree with you.

And say to My slaves (i.e. the true believers of Islamic Monotheism) that they should (only) say those words that are the best. (Because) Shaitan (Satan) verily, sows disagreements among them. Surely, Shaitan (Satan) is to man a plain enemy. [Al Qur'aan 17:53]

Mankind were one community, and Allah sent (unto them) prophets as bearers of good tidings and as warners, and revealed therewith the Scripture with the truth that it might judge between mankind concerning that wherein they differed. And only those unto whom (the Scripture) was given differed concerning it, after clear proofs had come unto them, through hatred one of another. And Allah by His Will guided those who believe unto the truth of that concerning which they differed. Allah guideth whom He will unto a straight path. (Surah Baqara 2:213)
 
Salahudeen said:
The trouble is you will not meet anyone from the major sects such as ahlal hadith, sufism, deobandi's, who doesn't claim to follow the Qur'an and sunnah, they all claim to follow the Qur'an and sunnah, where they differ is in their understanding of the Qur'an and sunnah. They differ on aqeedah, on stuff like "where is Allah" are Allah's attributes to be understood literally or metaphorically etc this is the problem, they all differ on aqeedah but all claim to follow Qur'an and sunnah. And they bash each other over the issues I mentioned above.
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I don't understand how they fail to understand such an easy message. Everything in the Quran and Hadeeths are crystal clear. People make a big issue outta nothing unnecessarily. :hmm:
 
peace_maker said:
I don't understand how they fail to understand such an easy message. Everything in the Quran and Hadeeths are crystal clear. People make a big issue outta nothing unnecessarily.
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It stems from their lack of understanding of Arabic unfortunately, they render their own definition to words.. I remember someone Ismaeli using 'imam mobeen' from suret yaseen to denote their physical imam whom they revere..
That's why one should learn Arabic and learn the religion not concoct like the kaffirs do their own desired renditions..
of course some Shiites don't read the Quran all together, one time I showed one shiite the verses against shiites and all it could elicit was 'oh wow how interesting' ..
sob7an Allah..
 
Salahudeen said:
They differ on aqeedah, on stuff like "where is Allah" are Allah's attributes to be understood literally or metaphorically etc this is the problem,
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But in the time to perform salah, you can see those who follow Ashari, Maturidi, and Athari perform salah together as jama'ah. It's means diversity in aqeedah is not a matter that can prevent them to build a unity when they should be united.

Did you ever heard Muslims from Hanafi and Shafii refuse to perform salat-ul jama'ah in Masjidil Haram because the imam follow different aqeedah ?
 
ooh, dont even mention Ismailis. Much more than that, I am despising Ahmadis. These idiots have put an amazing peaceful and progressive facade to show to the western world on how civil and how persecuted they are under the Sunni Muslims. and of course their Noble Prize Laureate Dr. Abdus Salam becomes a part of every conversation blah blah

Ismailis and Ahmadis with the background support are taking over all the academia positions in the West. And Sunni's remain interested in Tom Cruise cruising in UAE and standing on some stupid tower. Or in Veena Malik.
 
CosmicPathos said:
ooh, dont even mention Ismailis. Much more than that, I am despising Ahmadis. These idiots have put an amazing peaceful and progressive facade to show to the western world on how civil and how persecuted they are under the Sunni Muslims. and of course their Noble Prize Laureate Dr. Abdus Salam becomes a part of every conversation blah blah

Ismailis and Ahmadis with the background support are taking over all the academia positions in the West. And Sunni's remain interested in Tom Cruise cruising in UAE and standing on some stupid tower. Or in Veena Malik.
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The British created the ahamdi brand and it is the only thing they want to deal with. They can accept that as Islam all they want, that's no brand that we acknowledge.. what I despise however is when they put these heathens under Muslim and enable them to make pilgrimage when genuine Muslims have like those in China as an ex. have to wait 20-30 yrs if at all for visa approval

:w:
 
ßlµêßêll said:

The British created the ahamdi brand and it is the only thing they want to deal with. They can accept that as Islam all they want, that's no brand that we acknowledge.. what I despise however is when they put these heathens under Muslim and enable them to make pilgrimage when genuine Muslims have like those in China as an ex. have to wait 20-30 yrs if at all for visa approval

:w:
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These kaafir Ahmadis are really raising a movement in pakistan that how they feel hurt when they dont have the freedom to call themselves Muslims according to Pakistani constitutional change in 1970s made by General Zia. And seems teh gullible public at large believes in the cause of Ahmadis. Sad reality of Pakistanis.
 
ßlµêßêll said:
It stems from their lack of understanding of Arabic unfortunately, they render their own definition to words.. I remember someone Ismaeli using 'imam mobeen' from suret yaseen to denote their physical imam whom they revere.. That's why one should learn Arabic and learn the religion not concoct like the kaffirs do their own desired renditions..of course some Shiites don't read the Quran all together, one time I showed one shiite the verses against shiites and all it could elicit was 'oh wow how interesting' ..sob7an Allah..
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Sister, these days Quran and Hadeeths are in various languages, making it is easy to understand them. Okay, even if it is like that, then it is likely that uneducated people usually fell in these kinda beliefs, since they can't understand any book on their own and would ask for help, and the person translating might not explain him correctly. The reason could be that the translator would want to bring the person in his beliefs or whatever... But, what about the well educated people? It is astonishing to see very succesfull people felling in puddles unknowingly??
 
It's tough too when I go try to learn more about Islam and when I'm looking for biographies I get things like this.... :hmm:

[Blasphemous video removed]
 
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