Muslims and Non-muslims hijabs

[Tania]

I never saw in my country women wearing veils in catholic churches.(not nuns). During winter the women can keep their head covered (like you have a hat) and the man not.

 

[Hashim_507]

Tania : What country are you from?

 

[Tania]

Romania really i have to look closer when i am in church but i didn't see it.

 

[Hashim_507]

I am guessing Romania have both catholic and eastern orthodox christians right?

 

[Joe98]

In my country, when muslim women wear a scarf, its not to show their religion. The scarf is used as a symbol to show intolerance towards the west.

Any woman in a muslim scarf is looked at with suspicion. But a woman in any other type of scarf is not.

If you want the West to respect muslim woman in muslim scarfs, these woman should go around doing good works for everybody in society and ask for nothing in return.

Groups of such women working in the west would then cast Islam in a good light.

Just like nuns are respected.

 

[Hashim_507]

Muslim women wearing scarve does not show symbol of intolerance towards the west. The muslim women practice islam by obeying the Quran and Sunnah. The media reports bia against muslim womens and they created all of those symbols. The nations that ban hijab in the public are symbol of intolerance towards religious rights. A world without religious freedom is a world full of conflicts that never ends.

 

[Malaikah]

In my country, when muslim women wear a scarf, its not to show their religion. The scarf is used as a symbol to show intolerance towards the west.

And how many of these Muslim women have you asked about why they wear their hijab?

For the record, I don't know any Muslim woman who wears the hijab as a symbol of intolerance.

Ironically, it is only your post that is dripping in intolerance.

 

[~*~Serene~*~]

Another religion


Sikhism

 

[Tania]

I am guessing Romania have both catholic and eastern orthodox christians right?

Yes , correct.Also, the traditional costumes have the scarfs. In this way, you could find people dressed upto to the first world war.

 

[ummAbdillah]

salaam

In my country, when muslim women wear a scarf, its not to show their religion. The scarf is used as a symbol to show intolerance towards the west.

How do you know that? how many muslim women have you asked why they wear their hijab?ffended:
ma salaam

 

[Snowflake]

England: Nuns don't go throwing insults towards women that don't dress in that particular way.

Since when do nuns live a normal lifestyle anyway to let you witness who they insult and who they don't. If you even had the slightest inkling about the hidden lives of nuns, you'd be amazed to see the intolerance they have for each other, let alone for the world outside. And for your kind information, it isn't muslimahs who insult other women as 'she looks like a slag' and much worse insults that I can't type here. I've seen enough British chat shows where british families have a problem with how someone in their family dresses and evne worse they go on TV to insult them.

Nuns don't go working in factories, shops, police forces or even demand the rights to wear one here and there, during football for example. Nuns don't ask for special privileges.

Of course they don't do the above. They have no right to do all that. They're not allowed to live normal lives while still submitting themselves to God, like muslimahs can. No wonder then, nuns don't ask for any rights.

It's not a nice site seeing people hid behind the veil in the streets

Nor it is nice to see women dressed scantily only to entice men. They look nothing more than worm-bait on the end of a fishing line. Only this kinda bait is reusable.

England: With every reason. In this world identification is important. As I've said before if someone robs your purse/wallet/handbag, shoots someone and runs off you could go straight to the police station and give them a visual description of what they look like which would be hugely beneficial in capturing the criminal. If they're hiding behind a veil what can you say?

Fine, I can see your point there. But you're contrdicting yourself as the veil isn't your only problem since you also have a problem with muslim women asking for their rights (unlike nuns).

 

[Snowflake]

=Joe98;714230]In my country, when muslim women wear a scarf, its not to show their religion. The scarf is used as a symbol to show intolerance towards the west.

lol what a ludicrous statement! If a woman isn't going to wear a scarf out of obedience to Allah then no way will she wear to oppose the West! :rollseyes

Any woman in a muslim scarf is looked at with suspicion. But a woman in any other type of scarf is not.

Fortunately not all westerners have suspicious minds like you. Some genuinely respect the fact that people have the right to practice their religion!

If you want the West to respect muslim woman in muslim scarfs, these woman should go around doing good works for everybody in society and ask for nothing in return.

There are hijabi muslimahs working in all fields of professions in the West. I hope your ability to see their contributions to society isn't clouded by ignorance of facts.

Groups of such women working in the west would then cast Islam in a good light.

Rubbish! It'll take just one terrorist to undo all their good works. The truth is the west will never be happy unless muslimahs ditch their modesty in favour of lewdness and become duplicates of the kufaar.

Just like nuns are respected

:blind:

This is a typical day in a nun's life:

5:30 a.m. Rise
6:05 a.m. Divine Office

(Morning Prayer and Office of Readings)

7:00 a.m. Mass
8:00 a.m. Thanksgiving after Mass
8:20 a.m. Communal Rosary
8:50 a.m. Breakfast
9:10 a.m. House Cleaning
10:00 a.m. Work Time
11:30 a.m. Divine Office

(Daytime Prayer)

11: 50 a.m. Chaplet of St. Michael
12:00 p.m. Lunch
12:30 p.m. Free Time
2:00 p.m. Work Time
4:00 p.m. Lesson with Abbess or Novice Mistress
4:30 p.m. Spiritual Reading
5:00 p.m. Divine Office

(Evening Prayer and Night Prayer)

5:25 Chaplet of Divine Mercy
5:35 p.m. Supper
6:30 p.m. Recreation
7:30 p.m. Free Time
10:00 p.m. Lights Out

Every nun has one scheduled hour of Eucharistic adoration each day. In addition to this, she has nightly adoration twice a week. The term "free time" refers to the period each day when the nuns can spend additional time in prayer, spiritual reading, exercise, and so on. Apart from the hour of recreation in the evenings, the nuns spend their days in silence (except when speaking is necessary for work).

Not much different to a prison then? And I don't see how they provide any benefits to society at all.

 

[Muezzin]

Not all non muslims wear mini-skirts, in fact you don't see many women in mini skirts, just the odd tart or two but hey.

And these are the types of people that Muslims criticise, not all non-Muslim women, as that is just absurd.

In my country, when muslim women wear a scarf, its not to show their religion. The scarf is used as a symbol to show intolerance towards the west.

Oh, really? How about some examples rather than blanket statements? Unless of course you telepathically know exactly why Muslims in headscarves in your country wear them.

In my country, Muslim women in headscarves do their jobs just as well as those without it, whether those others are Muslim or non-Muslim. They don't wear a scarf to stick it to the West, they do so because it is a religious obligation. It would be pointless to wear a headscarf as some sort of protest anyway, since it would conceivably endanger the woman wearing it were she to use it for that purpose! Is a Sikh wearing a turban only doing so to disrespect the West? Or do you only interpret it as such if said Sikh criticises the West?

The logic you're using also implies that unless everybody who wears a headscarf goes around doing charitable acts, they must be regarded with suspicion. What faulty logic. Let's say I dislike baseball caps. By your logic, unless everyone who wears one is an exceptional baseball player as well as being someone who clothes and feeds the homeless, as opposed to simply living his life as a polite, hardworking member of society, I must regard him with suspicion; at any rate, I would be justified in regarding him as suspicious.

I also recollect from one of your posts that you have not met any Muslims, so I'm curious as to where exactly your perceptions come from, other than vicarious experiences through hearsay and the media.

Could it just be that you have a chip on your shoulder and are jumping at shadows?

 

[Tania]

This is a typical day in a nun's life:

Nuns in my country are working too. We have kindergardens run by nuns, elder people can ask nuns to help them at shopping.

 

[Muezzin]

Nuns are exceptionally good, kind-hearted people.

I just disagree with the assertion that Muslim women in headscarves must behave like nuns in order to be accepted without suspicion. Must all people who wear black behave like priests in order to be accepted without suspicion, for fear of the colour of their clothing being perceived as an insult to white people?

Also, a note to members: Do not turn this thread into yet another debate about the veil, as it is only vaguely related to the overall point of the first post of this thread in the first place. Such discussions belong on one of the many other threads about that subject. Any further posts debating the subject will be deleted.