Muslims’ attitude towards non-Muslims.

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Trumble said:
Surely those who do believe in God also believe He gave them the Qur'an (or Bible) to read and a mind of their own to reason with? Or you could always just 'ask' through prayer and do what you think God tells you?
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Well, of course we could do that, but first we would also need to read ALL the hadiths as well (thousands of them), memorise most of them, learn all the principles behind deriving rulings etc..... in other words, we would have to become scholars ourselves.

In short- we are not qualified to come up with rulings.

We don't believe in doing nothing but asking for God for guidance. We do our best, put in the effort, and then rely on God. We don't just sit back and expect God to do all the work for us.
 
Muhammad said:
:sl: and Greetings,

Following from seeker_of_ilm's post, it shows that if you don't see the logic or agree with one answer on a website, it doesn't mean that the whole website is void and useless. It has nothing to do with "Salafism" or 'Salafees".

Islamqa is actually quite a comprehensive and reliable site as it quotes from scholars adhering to the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh), and it uses authentic sources based on the Qu'ran and Sunnah, and other reliable contemporary scholarly opinions. References are provided where appropriate in the responses. Many other sites do not do this and many of them use answers from doubtful sources.

It could be that it comes down to context, but whatever is the case, the point to bear in mind is not to be so quick to judge others and assert our own opinions, especially over those who have more knowledge than we have. When something doesn't agree with our logic or seems to go against our personal opinions, we should investigate and seek the answer patiently before rushing to pass verdicts on someone else's referenced answer or disregarding their statements which could turn out to be true.

Regarding the actual issue at hand, I am quite sure it has been discussed elsewhere. Perhaps wilberhum could mention the thread which he got it from? Nevertheless, there are many aspects of Islam to demonstrate its respect for all human life and the kindness it teaches towards non-Muslims.
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jazakallahu khair. thank you, thank you, thank you.
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I've always thought that if there was a God/Goddess/Gods then a book written thousands of years ago would be a very unlikely means of communicaiton.

Why would an all powerful God not simply have you know what it wants you to know? The apparent need for the middleman book or preacher just smells fishy to me.
 
Pygoscelis said:
Why would an all powerful God not simply have you know what it wants you to know? The apparent need for the middleman book or preacher just smells fishy to me.
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Because that would completely destroy the ability to choose between right and wrong therefore not having any free will. If God wanted he could force us to worship Him and he can't be blamed for we owe All to him. However the middle man is perfect for us to practice our free will as we are not forced to submit.
 
Greetings,
Z.AL-Rashid said:
Because that would completely destroy the ability to choose between right and wrong therefore not having any free will. If God wanted he could force us to worship Him and he can't be blamed for we owe All to him. However the middle man is perfect for us to practice our free will as we are not forced to submit.
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And I guess you'll find some circuitous way to explain how what you've said doesn't contradict the words of the Qur'an here:

And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them. Then Allah lets go astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. (Qur'an 14:4)
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Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


And I guess you'll find some circuitous way to explain how what you've said doesn't contradict the words of the Qur'an here:



Peace
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Interesting question, BUT does guiding some one or leaving them their own demise equate to forcing them to submit or Forcing them to reject?

peace
 
No, it uses fatwas from different scholars, including shaykh 'Uthaymeen, Al-Albaani, Ibn Taymiyyah and others, may Allaah have mercy upon them all.
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Yes, thats what I mean they use Authentic scholars dont they?
 
Greetings,
Z.AL-Rashid said:
Interesting question, BUT does guiding some one or leaving them their own demise equate to forcing them to submit or Forcing them to reject?

peace
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It might do - it depends on how you see god. From my point of view, god is a fiction created by humans, so people can claim whatever they like about god, and, as long as it doesn't contradict religious texts, there's nothing anyone can do to prove them wrong.

If Allah let someone go astray, is there any chance that they can find "the right path"? If Allah (who is 'the Almighty', we are told) is against you finding Islam, what chance do you have?

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


In what way do you have a chance of following the way of Allah if he has willed that you be led astray?

Peace
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Peace,

We are having a problem with semantics here. Allaah(swt) does not will him away from Islam. It is through his will they have free choice. It is through His will they can either choose or deny Islam. So it is through the will of Allaah(swt) we can do what we do. He does not makes us do it, it is his will we have the ability
 
hola,

while i feel a little bit put down at the thought muslims might not be allowed to befriend me, given the sheiks position (and i see almost nobody here agrees with him)... i think it is important to just accept that is what they believe and understand that if their religion requires this we should not try to coerce them with judgmental or hyperbolic statements about their beliefs. there are lots of things muslims believe, like jihad for instance, that people blow out of purportion and demand that they stop believing in it since it is not 'tolerant,' thus holding them to secular standards... i don't think that is fair at all and places muslims in a really bad spot.

que Dios te bendiga
 
there are lots of things muslims believe, like jihad for instance, that people blow out of purportion and demand that they stop believing in it since it is not 'tolerant,' thus holding them to secular standards... i don't think that is fair at all and places muslims in a really bad spot.
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Precisely. If the West espouses freedom of religion, it must also give this freedom to Muslim to believe and follow their religion. Therefore all these government programs to try to manipulate Muslim beliefs and religious education, especially regarding jihad, should be regarded by all citizens of the west as an assault on this fundamental right to freedom of religion. Western governments should have no right to try to force their version of Islam on Muslims, they should rather remain completely aloof from all religious affairs of the Muslims.
 
Talha777 said:
Precisely. If the West espouses freedom of religion, it must also give this freedom to Muslim to believe and follow their religion. Therefore all these government programs to try to manipulate Muslim beliefs and religious education, especially regarding jihad, should be regarded by all citizens of the west as an assault on this fundamental right to freedom of religion. Western governments should have no right to try to force their version of Islam on Muslims, they should rather remain completely aloof from all religious affairs of the Muslims.
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gracias... but i was not referring to politics, i just meant general perceptions. i don't talk about politics very much, i think etiquette is more important :)
 

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