Muslims converting to Christianity

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i'm not sure that judaism has a position on other religions adopting their prophets.
but hey, you can find jews who will say cheeseburgers are fine too.
 
barney said:
From talking to Jews! :)

I often find that these questions about "who's religion came first" are similar to Gluconeogenisis.
The vast majority of gluconeogenesis takes place in the liver and, to a smaller extent, in the cortex of kidneys. This process occurs during periods of fasting, starvation, or intense exercise and is highly endergonic. Gluconeogenesis is often associated with ketosis. :)
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God bless google and wikepedia

stick in things whether they belong or not in the context of conversation!
 
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When lacking a Official position, you have to revert to the followers beleifs & opinions. Mormonism probably dosnt have a official position on First-Person-Shooter Computor games, but ask enough Mormons what they beleive about them, you'll get a consistent answer.
 
back on topic. a muslim ate a jewish cheeseburger and immediately felt pain in his kidney cortex, which led him to promptly become a christian. but then, after over excercising he realized that due to being endergonic, his judgement had become decidedly unkosher, whereupon he promptly went back to islam.
i hope this is clear now.
 
^^ ;D;D Rofl...a deus ex machina ending? I like it...
you should apply for the open mod position =)
peace!
 
snakelegs said:
back on topic. a muslim ate a jewish cheeseburger and immediately felt pain in his kidney cortex, which led him to promptly become a christian. but then, after over excercising he realized that due to being endergonic, his judgement had become decidedly unkosher, whereupon he promptly went back to islam.
i hope this is clear now.
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so that is th link, must I now apologise to the hidden sage?:okay:
 
MadeenJibreel said:
You know what the problem is akhi?
The problem is that I never ever mentioned "following Rasulullah (saws) like some Christians are following Isa (as)", it was you who mentioned this, I only replied. My statements on the fact that we must follow Rasulullah (saws) was very clear. Ya meded and similar was your direct response? Why? As I never ever implied such a thing.

I, alhamdulillah, am in a direct contact with Rasulullah (saws): every salawat that I say is a direct contact, every part of Sunnah that I do daily is a direct contact, every Hadith that I read is a direct contact, every Ayah that I read where Allah (swt) mentiones Rasulullah (saws) or orders something to him, or explains something to him, is a direct contact.

But that doesn't mean I say "Ya meded" or similar. Of course not.
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oh ! are we sneaky or what?
I, alhamdulillah, am in a direct contact with Rasulullah (saws):
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I am Not. next thing you'll be getting instruction in your dreams!
every salawat that I say is a direct contact,
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Every drood and salaam I send is taken to him by an intermediary
every part of Sunnah that I do daily is a direct contact,
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then how is it that you are always misquoting? is something wrong with the connecting cord?
every Hadith that I read is a direct contact, every Ayah that I read where Allah (swt) mentiones Rasulullah (saws) or orders something to him, or explains something to him, is a direct contact.
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How long have you been a muhadith? if using English mistranslations of ahaadith or pasting out of context mis-quotations of mutilated Ayahs to look better than Sr. Ambrosia is direct contact then I cant say much except to ask whether you also believe that the Prophet is "hazir & nazir" today and also whether he was flesh & blood like rest of humanity or was made of pure noor?

also do you follow or endeavour to follow every single example set by him?
 
^^ OK

Now we need brother Al-Madani to make the closing post and we are done (until the other brother comes back)
 
MadeenJibreel said:
U cud be more polite to ur bro, no?
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by the same token you could have PMed Sr.Ambrosia when you believed that her post was erroneus! NO?

That is what I do when I think something is wrong with the post of someone I like, then they are able to correct it or explain why it is not wrong.
 
NoName55 said:
by the same token you could have PMed Sr.Ambrosia when you believed that her post was erroneus! NO?

That is what I do when I think something is wrong with the post of someone I like, then they are able to correct it or explain why it is not wrong.
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I don't send PMs to nobody. Especially not to a sister. PM should be disabled for that reason.
 
I apologize for causing a rift between brothers, when my intention was ONLY to correct the notion of why some are keen on calling us 'Mohammedans', my comment, wasn't directed toward any Muslim, or snakey as she had previousely thought.. I think it would have been prudent on my part to simply quote the person I intended my comments to... Although, I didn't feel like a long winded debate.. It ended up happening anyway with a different fellow.. but such posts aren't conducive to anyone learning or to fostering growth a community feel or dispelling myths as created by some non-muslims.

we are all stating the same thing, just in different style... I don't think anyone of us would waste time here, unless we felt very strongly about Islam and wanted to take part in making others understand it better.

So as was inscribed on the prophet sala Allah 3lyhi waslam' sword... speak the truth even if it be against yourself.. I say I have erred, it wasn't my intention that Muslim board members become angry with one another, least of which to defend a statement I have made. Though I still defend what I have stated, I don't think I have stated it correctly... if anyone came really close to what I have wanted to say it would be Br. Mustafa. MC... calling us Mohammedans was an orientalist dirty game, and I know many would love to bring it back..

with that, I take myself out of this debate..
Jazakoum Allah khyran

waslaam 3lykoum wr wb
M
 
Al Habeshi said:
Is there any point to this thread guys?

If it's done and dusted then I'll close it.
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:sl: akhi,

I suppose I'll never get to see some answers that I requested from Christians on this forum, so perhaps you can shut the thread down...
 
Muslim Woman said:
Salaam/peace;





glad to know that u understand it :)




Now , pl think ---no Prophet (pbut) before Jesus (p) ever taught about Trinity . No one even gave any hint of Triune God. Always they taught God is One without partner.



If Jesus (p) was always God , how come Adam , Abraham , Moses , Solomon--the most wise person ever regarding Bible (???) did not know about that ???

How come , Jesus (p) suddenly taught people about a total different matter that goes against the main concept of all major holy books ? Jesus (p) taught u , God is greater than ALL . Why u think , All excluded Jesus (p) when he himself said that My Father is greater than I.

Bible, John 14:28
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The word "grandfather" isn't mentioned in the Bible either, yet we know that grandfathers did indeed exist. It is a matter of semantics. We could refer to "3 coexistent, co-eternal persons making up 1 God."...but it is much simpler to call it a Trinity. I'm not going to get into the Trinity argument here, but suffice to say we as Christians feel very comfortable using the word and very comfortable in the knowledge that Christ did teach that God is God, Christ Himself is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. That doesn't mean we understand it anymore than we understand anything about the nature of God.
 
Keltoi said:
The word "grandfather" isn't mentioned in the Bible either, yet we know that grandfathers did indeed exist. It is a matter of semantics. We could refer to "3 coexistent, co-eternal persons making up 1 God."...but it is much simpler to call it a Trinity. I'm not going to get into the Trinity argument here, but suffice to say we as Christians feel very comfortable using the word and very comfortable in the knowledge that Christ did teach that God is God, Christ Himself is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. That doesn't mean we understand it anymore than we understand anything about the nature of God.
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When you say "3 co-existent", you mean like "me, my wife and our child" or you mean like "you know that comparison...when a priest compares trinity to an egg (like 3 in 1))"

PS I thought Christians believe Jesus is son of God? How come he's both, God and son of God (according to the Christian faith)? Please elaborate on this.
 
Keltoi,

pls take a look at the very verse you posted yourself in another thread:

Timothy 6:13 "I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He will bring about at the proper time--He who is blessed and only Sovereign, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

Marked red is talking about God, whilst text marked blue is talking about somebody else, it's talking about Jesus. It clear as the sky with no clouds that they are not one, nor are they the same, nor are they one entity.

Agreed?
 
MadeenJibreel said:
When you say "3 co-existent", you mean like "me, my wife and our child" or you mean like "you know that comparison...when a priest compares trinity to an egg (like 3 in 1))"

PS I thought Christians believe Jesus is son of God? How come he's both, God and son of God (according to the Christian faith)? Please elaborate on this.
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Coexisting of the same substance...in other words the same entity manifesting in different ways.

As for the "Son of God" this is a title of nature and not of office. The sonship of Christ denotes his equality with the Father. To call Christ the Son of God is to assert his true and proper divinity. It does not mean Christ is a physical offspring of God....that would be rather blasphemous wouldn't it? It simply refers, as Christ often pointed out, His relationship with the Father...being One with the Father.
 

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