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Every day you watch the bbc news seing muslims being brutally tourtured yet the next day you see it again and again.
the nes shows you a minute or secs of muslims being bombed, and still they attack those civillians, and still no1 is helping them, muslim jihadist would fight the kafr yet still muslims are then ''TERRORISTS'' come on....dont you see this trickery kafr killing muslims, muslims not responding to do any thing to prevent this happening, yet when the kafr get killed its as if they just got another 9/11.

WE have been created for 1 reason, and one reason only to obey allah, allah tells us to not trust those who oppress muslims and islam. yet still the dirty muslims amongest the dirty kufr are together and killing more muslims, allah will bring justice to those murders in this ife or the hereafter but untill then isnt it our own duty to help our muslim brothers.

Allah hu akbar and we shall defeat the kafr who insult islam for a living, for there jobs to destroy islam, that is the fundemtals aspect of the kafr to destroy islam, to not give the muslims there own land in palestine and our mosque.

the day of judgement is just getting closser day by day untill the sun rises from the west then there shal not be no more asking for allah to forgive and believein him, becuz it will be tooooooo late.

muslims brothers and sisters remember we need to do what it takes to uphold islam in our life, and hereafter. Allah has given us a a tongue to speak out against wrong, and to use phsyically, if not in our hearts.

Remember we are living in 21st century where sins are common to do, without hesitation. TOO MUCH sins are being commited by ourselves, the brutall wars going on, and against who? against who you ask, AGAINST MUSLIMS!

yet still we are naivie what the kafr are doing doing there utmost best to finish what muslims want an islamic state, islam is true surely! but islam is all around us, our duty to help our brothers and sisters.

I feel so angry in what is happening in Iraq, Palestine and afganistan, I wish i could be there myslef inshallah and help those who are being tourted, familes being tourn apart, husnads sons being killed for joke!

Allah hu akbar, inshallah we all shall rise against the kafr, and what is to be done........allah no's best..............
 
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I think the greatest injustice is here, we are doing it to ourself.

Look around, the average Mr Khan, Mr Usman and Mr Khalid what are their main concerns?

Instead of spending extra money purifyin ourselfs we spend it on razorz to alter our faces, instead of spending the time learning arabic we spend it at home watchin the FA Cup (oh well at least am not down the pub is the escuse we hear) instead of learning the basic meanings of the Shahada, the conditions of Salaah and knowledge otherwise obligatory upon us, we are not only imposing ourself but also our children to learn about Business and Finanace (all the time, not half and half but 24/7) instead of following our religion we follow our culture, how many muslims would there be if all of us were born non Muslim, meaning if we had to go out of our way to discover Islam?

Then we have a portion of us who do practice the deen but suffocate it with Bida' and the likes, instead of building the solid foundations we focous on acts of dispute not known by our forefathers.

And we want an Islamic state? Lead by...either Muslims who will worry more about their clean faces and football or Muslims who will practice Bida' in the state.

I don't want a Muslim by Background Let's do what we want state. Neither do I want a 'Let us get closer to Allah with matters unheard of when we have yet to perfect the matters which are clear' state.

People dying abroad and different places, they are dying in Islam, us here, we are dying for either dunya or bidah.

But I know there's a slow changetaking place, but until then I wonder.
 
Al Habeshi said:
I think the greatest injustice is here, we are doing it to ourself.

Look around, the average Mr Khan, Mr Usman and Mr Khalid what are their main concerns?

Instead of spending extra money purifyin ourselfs we spend it on razorz to alter our faces, instead of spending the time learning arabic we spend it at home watchin the FA Cup (oh well at least am not down the pub is the escuse we hear) instead of learning the basic meanings of the Shahada, the conditions of Salaah and knowledge otherwise obligatory upon us, we are not only imposing ourself but also our children to learn about Business and Finanace (all the time, not half and half but 24/7) instead of following our religion we follow our culture, how many muslims would there be if all of us were born non Muslim, meaning if we had to go out of our way to discover Islam?

Then we have a portion of us who do practice the deen but suffocate it with Bida' and the likes, instead of building the solid foundations we focous on acts of dispute not known by our forefathers.

And we want an Islamic state? Lead by...either Muslims who will worry more about their clean faces and football or Muslims who will practice Bida' in the state.

I don't want a Muslim by Background Let's do what we want state. Neither do I want a 'Let us get closer to Allah with matters unheard of when we have yet to perfect the matters which are clear' state.

People dying abroad and different places, they are dying in Islam, us here, we are dying for either dunya or bidah.

But I know there's a slow changetaking place, but until then I wonder.
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how can you say that bro, having an islamic state which isnt done by what we want, but by what ''Allah has orderd'' the orders and the laws of islam reagrding islamic state, not what we want like you a state of what we want.

come on your just changing my words bro, having an islamic state is a duty for all muslims to uphold, as muslims by muslims!

and how can you justify the fact that muslims are dying across the world and we're are dying her, astagfurallah, i dont exactly rember whcih hadith it was but the prophet did say if a drop of a muslim blood drops, the rest should come to its aid< not a a quote(it is a hadith not in those words)

so when muslims are dying becuz of the kafr your telling me that is not our duty individually, in a group or a else to help them, to help them protect them being killed, and finished.


for example a group of people killing vunerable innocent people who believe in allah who live in their own land. and are being killed by another group which has weapons, more powerfull then others. yet your ganna let them die and not think of helping them to protect them, and to fight against those who are killing innocent civillians.

May allah give us the strength to fight those who reject allah and oppress muslims
.ameen..
 
Keltoi said:
Who protects Muslims being killed by Muslims?
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imagine you and your brother had a fight, thats ok right?

but then imagine some random unknown bunch of strangers came over, invaded your home and started killing you.


please try be more understanding :)
 
Gangster No.1 said:
how can you say that bro, having an islamic state which isnt done by what we want, but by what ''Allah has orderd'' the orders and the laws of islam reagrding islamic state, not what we want like you a state of what we want.

come on your just changing my words bro, having an islamic state is a duty for all muslims to uphold, as muslims by muslims!
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It wasn't a reply to your statement as such akhi just my observation, the Islamic State I want is the one where we have a leader like our Prophet, i.e. the same as 'What Allah has ordered' but akhi how can we ever have one when Muslims, and you know it, are living the way we are, akhi, look at the Muslims in the Uk where I am from, look how many cant even keep a beard, let alone have ambitions of making a state, look how many walk around partially naked, let alone have a state, look how many follow innovated matters let alone follow the path of making a state.

This is the sad reality.

Gangster No.1 said:
and how can you justify the fact that muslims are dying across the world and we're are dying her, astagfurallah, i dont exactly rember whcih hadith it was but the prophet did say if a drop of a muslim blood drops, the rest should come to its aid< not a a quote(it is a hadith not in those words)
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Akhi, I am not justifying it, but what I am saying is this, let me ask you, would you rather die without sin or live with sin? I would rather die without sin.

If I had my choice we'd have an Islamic State, if I had my choice I would not have my sisters raped and my brothers made to wathc their mothers being raped, you think I want that? No, at the same time, if I had a choice I would want my brothers to know what La Ilaha Ill Allah means, for without that they are vergin on being non Muslim right? And which is of the worst, being raped or suffering physically or suffering in the heart and playin on the path of disbelief?

Gangster No.1 said:
so when muslims are dying becuz of the kafr your telling me that is not our duty individually, in a group or a else to help them, to help them protect them being killed, and finished.
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My noble brother, listen to me, I do not take joy out of my brothers dieng and my sisters being raped, I do not take joy out of my brothers being covered in feaces.

AND

Neither do I take joy at Muslims disobeying the Shariah, I do not take joy at Muslim not knowing what is obligatory for them to know.

But I acknowledge both are bad, but to me the worse situation is that of a Muslim boardering on disbelief than a muslim suffering physical persecution.


Gangster No.1 said:
for example a group of people killing vunerable innocent people who believe in allah who live in their own land. and are being killed by another group which has weapons, more powerfull then others. yet your ganna let them die and not think of helping them to protect them, and to fight against those who are killing innocent civillians.
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You know akhi, I agree we should be firm and protect the innocent, but how? By neglecting the growin problem of ignorance amongst ourselfs? Are we to Tawāşaw (recommend one another to) patience and truth whilst we ourself are ignorant of the realities of patience and truth?

That is all I say.

Your brother,

Eesa.
 
Al Habeshi said:
It wasn't a reply to your statement as such akhi just my observation, the Islamic State I want is the one where we have a leader like our Prophet, i.e. the same as 'What Allah has ordered' but akhi how can we ever have one when Muslims, and you know it, are living the way we are, akhi, look at the Muslims in the Uk where I am from, look how many cant even keep a beard, let alone have ambitions of making a state, look how many walk around partially naked, let alone have a state, look how many follow innovated matters let alone follow the path of making a state.

This is the sad reality.



Akhi, I am not justifying it, but what I am saying is this, let me ask you, would you rather die without sin or live with sin? I would rather die without sin.

If I had my choice we'd have an Islamic State, if I had my choice I would not have my sisters raped and my brothers made to wathc their mothers being raped, you think I want that? No, at the same time, if I had a choice I would want my brothers to know what La Ilaha Ill Allah means, for without that they are vergin on being non Muslim right? And which is of the worst, being raped or suffering physically or suffering in the heart and playin on the path of disbelief?



My noble brother, listen to me, I do not take joy out of my brothers dieng and my sisters being raped, I do not take joy out of my brothers being covered in feaces.

AND

Neither do I take joy at Muslims disobeying the Shariah, I do not take joy at Muslim not knowing what is obligatory for them to know.

But I acknowledge both are bad, but to me the worse situation is that of a Muslim boardering on disbelief than a muslim suffering physical persecution.




You know akhi, I agree we should be firm and protect the innocent, but how? By neglecting the growin problem of ignorance amongst ourselfs? Are we to Tawāşaw (recommend one another to) patience and truth whilst we ourself are ignorant of the realities of patience and truth?

That is all I say.

Your brother,

Eesa.
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brother i briefly read a bit of what you said i have now finished work, i cant carry on chatting/discussing, inshallah tommorw i will.!

inshallah
peace:w:
 
Yeah lots of bad things are happening to the Muslims nowadays but if you look at our situation-- we're not exactly behaving so perfectly ourselves as al-habeshi pointed out...

When the Ummah was following the Quran and Sunnah properly, they were victorious everywhere mashaAllah and excelled in the dunyah and deen..

If you look at Islamic history and Islam's contribution to all the spheres of knowledge- science/maths/astronomy etc you'll see this point inshaAllah

But when Muslims left their religion and fell for the dunya they grew weak..

Remember what the Prophet (saw) said- we will be destroyed by our love for this dunya and fear of death---isn't that our present situation...?

Then how can we complain? we should work on improving ourselves and our families first inshaAllah

May Allah Unite the Ummah of the Prophet (saw) on His path amiin
 
On first blush, the kufr reading this thread might be offended at being called a murderer....but, not to fear, it seems we are "tricky" too. Woohoo!

Here is hoping to see you all at the 2007 Tricky Kufr Conference in Maui in September.

Please remember to bring your invisible ink and decoder rings.
 
Respect ! It's the only word which comes straight to my mind. Respect to the words of the mods how they reply to Gangsta ! Anyway, thats what he wanted, start a fight. In UK, you would call him a hooligan !
He might me a muslim, but not one of the good ones. It's the kind of person, who give the bad image to islam
 
guyabano said:
Respect ! It's the only word which comes straight to my mind. Respect to the words of the mods how they reply to Gangsta ! Anyway, thats what he wanted, start a fight. In UK, you would call him a hooligan !
He might me a muslim, but not one of the good ones. It's the kind of person, who give the bad image to islam
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It's the same perception of muslim that I imagined the majority of muslims to be before I started this forum. I used to think ALL muslims had the same mind as him. Sometimes that negative thought does crop up in mind now and then about muslims especially when I hear of things.
 
When one muslim suffers, all muslim suffers. I don't wanna break the rules, so i'm not gonna go deep into this discusion. But i think everyone should show their support to Mujahideens all over the world. But i dislike it when Muslims target civilians, they should not lower themself to the same level as the soldiers of America/Russia/Israel/etc.
 
Volume 1, Book 2, Number 30:
Narrated Al-Ahnaf bin Qais:
While I was going to help this man ('Ali Ibn Abi Talib), Abu Bakra met me and asked, "Where are you going?" I replied, "I am going to help that person." He said, "Go back for I have heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'When two Muslims fight (meet) each other with their swords, both the murderer as well as the murdered will go to the Hell-fire.' I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! It is all right for the murderer but what about the murdered one?' Allah's Apostle replied, "He surely had the intention to kill his companion."
 
Tobias_Muslim said:
When one muslim suffers, all muslim suffers. I don't wanna break the rules, so i'm not gonna go deep into this discusion. But i think everyone should show their support to Mujahideens all over the world. But i dislike it when Muslims target civilians, they should not lower themself to the same level as the soldiers of America/Russia/Israel/etc.
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Too late.
 

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