Muslims grooming White girls

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Having been banned from a forum for apparently being am extremist and supporting violence etc etc can any of you guys shed any light. Are the comments by Sheeda Pistol really that bad or is it once again the atheists failure to understand.

Well maybe you should stop being namby pamby and see the real world. Some women need a slap! Period! They need to be brought back down to earth and learn a little humility. God knows it is going to happen so has set limits. It is wrong but it's how blokes naturally are. Crap at arguing, mental drives them to snapping point and then they lash out. It happens to many a bloke and society will always look down at those men. I fotunately see a different side of things.

My argument was in response to the wife beating versus of Islam where non believers use it as a stick to poke the Muslims with whereas I see the realistic ad sensible side of the argument and put it down to most atheists are incapable of thinking properly or without bein indirectly PC.
 
I'm going to have to disagree with you there, bro. As mad as I have been sometimes, I've never hit anyone or anything, man, woman, or dog. A few walls, maybe. Broken a few controllers in my time, sure. But I've never hit any person or animal because of my rage.

Not sure what this has to do with "grooming white girls" though. I admit I am puzzled by that...
 
"wife beating" in term that we all understand it, is not allowed in Islam, I'm sure you understand that?
 
Salaam
You are not an extremist , You simply do not understand Islam esp regarding this issue
Brother no one will force you to marry whom you will marry , so before even thinking about any violence you want to commit against anyone
What would make belive that your wife would be as you described?
May be she is good , genlte and polite person are you going to hurt her because you simply belive that all women have mood problems?
You have to re-think what marriage means to you, and I wouldn;t encourage you to get married soon
Salaam
 
Salaam,

I think that it's inappropriate for any person to ever, ever hit any person out of frustration. Of course, that's just my opinion, but I highly doubt that Allah (s.w.t.) wants us to hit each other rather than talk out our differences calmly and rationally.

Peace be with you
 
Please explain how domestic violence or any other violence inflicted by man upon a woman is related to muslims grooming 'white girls'?!

Please do elaborate, i am intrigued?!
 
Which are the wife beating verses?

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Sorry, the forum i got banned from Pistonheads had a topic about how Muslims are grooming young white girls and certain people even stated that Islam encourages degration of the woman and even rape! That was the thread title for my ban.

Anyway i'm married and have been so for just over seven years. I have never hit the wife, or even thought of it.

Someone posted a link up of Pat Condell and his ramblings, i pointed out he is an idiot only to be met by a link to Dr Zakir Naiks video on youtube about wife beating.

The discussion got heated and someone mentioned in Islam it says you can hit the wife very gently. I made it clear that no you can't but in certain circumstances it is allowed. Hence i went on to say that the bit Sheeda Pistol quoted above. Aka most women are fine but be under no illuision that all women are cuddly, lovable creatures. Some are real vile.

Thoughts?
 
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.
 
Oh, darn. I was expecting a thread about Muslim guys hooking up with white girls... :p:
 
^Uhmm, what? You seem a little confused... And a bit out of touch with Islam's stance on a few things... Hopefully other members can help you out.
 
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.

I think maybe you should have explained to them further since in the west a beating usually means injuring someone. As far as I know you're not allowed to harm your wife or cause her pain so it would be a beating but without causing damage or pain.
 
It was an amazing experience. Considering the place is for motoring enthusiast the amount of Islamiphobic comments on the site are astronomical. The mods even seem to allow people to get away with inflammatory comments like Mosques teach 'Adultery is not the man's fault, the devil works through the woman to ensnare the man.'. I was the only Muslims who spoke up to the idiots and apparently i'm the one that offends. The worst thing is that the forum was populated by educated people too.
 
Salaam,

I'm confused. Is this topic about wife beating or about Muslims grooming white girls? Which one is it?
 
Muslims don't groom white girls, I mean Muslim's aren't a race or anything and I don't remember any teachings in Islam that tell you to groom white girls, what gave you that idea...
 
Are these actual verses from the Quran? Please tell me these are fabrications. If they are real, why would it suprise you that non-muslims would react negatively?

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

So, women are to be obedient to men and if a man fears his woman may leave him (it doesn't say wife?), he is to adminish her, abandon her, and beat her? How is that NOT the OK to beat women? It actually tells you to do it? As in if you don't beat your disobedient woman you're acting against God?

Incidentally, if this was a Christian board you came from you'd have wanted to show them the parts of the bible telling you how to beat slaves. Its no better.

This is all a good example of how ethics change over time. In the times these books were written these things were considered ok (slavery, beating women, etc). We've come quite a way since then.

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife.

This one appears to be specific to Job, so not applicable to modern men.
 
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