Muslims in the west, have you seen an increase in racism?

[Whatsthepoint]

Fisherman's eye, you're complaining about islamophobia, yet you're full of prejudice yourself!

 

[Fishermans_eye]

Fisherman's eye, you're complaining about islamophobia, yet you're full of prejudice yourself!

I'm from Turkmenistan, an old Soviet state myself. I know how it is.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I'm from Turkmenistan, an old Soviet state myself. I know how it is.

My apologies to you.
Still, I think Aaron knows more about Poland than you do, and I don't think Russians kill muslims immigrants solely bercause their muslims. I think the fact that they're immigrants is the main reason for violent acts you mentioned. Immigrants of all faiths and ethnic backgrounds get bullied in Russia.

 

[Fishermans_eye]

My apologies to you.
Still, I think Aaron knows more about Poland than you do, and I don't think Russians kill muslims immigrants solely bercause their muslims. I think the fact that they're immigrants is the main reason for violent acts you mentioned. Immigrants of all faiths and ethnic backgrounds get bullied in Russia.

Cause Russians can't hold on to a job and keeps drinking водка! And they blame immigrants for working. But they also kill Muslims. I think 1/3 of Russia is Muslim.

 

[nebula]

ive gotten alot of racism in my area i live in outter london and i reckon racism has increased due to 9 11 bombings london bombings and stuff like that, its built hate in people here against muslims. I get alot of dirty looks from people it pisses me off ive been called a paki aswell loadss of times lol but never directy to my face no1's got the gutts, its usually people driving by on cars. :raging:

 

[SATalha]

It gets tense in the aftermath of a terrorist attack, I remember when the Bricklane bombing and the Soho bombings happned, we all gathered in the local areas and waited to see what happend. There where reports of racist incidents but nothing concrete. BUT i clearly remember after 7/7, N/F (or at least we think it was NF) came to our area and attacked a lad, all the area people came out to sort of keep an eye out. All in all its that age old human battle of not liking anything thats strange to you and thats whats happning.

 

[Azy]

I might have missed something, but what does racism have to do with Islamophobia?

 

[chacha_jalebi]

i dont think racism has increased especially down here in london, but i think up north its more serious, because lol people are like really segregated there!!

ive never experienced racism, although a womaan did ask me, why i converted to islam, and was i forced! and i said erm, i was born muslim and no one forces anyone, people come to islaam in free will, and she gav me sarcastic smile, which blatant meant "i wish i wasnt here right now":mmokay:

 

[Fishermans_eye]

I might have missed something, but what does racism have to do with Islamophobia?

Nothing, but if you're a blond blue eyed Muslim you will be spared. But if you're a dark skinned, asian, black person you will be true more racism.

 

[SATalha]

I might have missed something, but what does racism have to do with Islamophobia?

Salaam Racism and Islamaphobia are very much related, however the term Islamaphobia is not a good term to describe what is going on in the west and the UK...or even globaly. The term 'anti-Islamic racism' would a more appropriate term to describe what is going on becuase it describes both the feeling "anti-Islamic" and the action "racism". So overall it is very much related my firend. Please read the article below it dwells in the topic in to more detail....at the moment pasting the link is much more easier, I dont usualy type so much....

Note to myself: Talha stop typin

http://muslimsafetyforum.org/islamophobia/what-is-islamophobia-2.html

 

[chacha_jalebi]

^note from me to yourself, talha keep typin

islamphobia, which started in the west i think would be classed as prejudice, but prejeudice is the startin of racism, so yes they do have something to do with each other

back on topic, i believe, that in certain areas of UK, racism is more then it is, like in london its very uncommon to hear a racist remark, honestlyyy, but then again depends on what part of london you live in

 

[SATalha]

Ahhhh Chacha Ji why are you making me type! LOL

Yeah your right depends on what part of London your at, but most areas are cool! Have you seen Bricklane these days, lol its so trendy .....the next camden. Thats another area you would think that with the dominant Bengali/Muslim people their...and the firday/saturday nights clubs and stuff that their would be clash...but i aint noticed any trouble. Which is good i hope it stays that way.

 

[Fishermans_eye]

Ahhhh Chacha Ji why are you making me type! LOL

Yeah your right depends on what part of London your at, but most areas are cool! Have you seen Bricklane these days, lol its so trendy .....the next camden. Thats another area you would think that with the dominant Bengali/Muslim people their...and the firday/saturday nights clubs and stuff that their would be clash...but i aint noticed any trouble. Which is good i hope it stays that way.

Maybe cause you don't notice it? I didn't start getting racism before I started noticing it. Bengali/muslim nightclubs? Lol! I have to go to one of those.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

The most I ever get is stares, otherwise nothing. But it's prolly cuz I dont go out alot. Just uni then home...sometimes I'll go out when my family does.

 

[SATalha]

Huhhhhhhhh What you chatting about bro....? Read what i said, i didnt say "Bengali/Muslim night club".

Hey it was Black Muggers yesterday, Muslims today......who knows it might be the Jews tommorrow...oh wait thats happpend already. lol

 

[Fishermans_eye]

The most I ever get is stares, otherwise nothing. But it's prolly cuz I dont go out alot. Just uni then home...sometimes I'll go out when my family does.

You will get a lot of Muslim men wanting to marry you!
I might start doing that too, but I don't have a family.

The buses/trains are a common place for discrimination. It was a veiled woman who was denied entry to a buss in my country just last week. And then we have the drunks that love to harass you when you can't escape. Drunks are the worst cause they like seeing someone lower than themselves cause they are the societies bottom trash.

 

[Fishermans_eye]

Huhhhhhhhh What you chatting about bro....? Read what i said, i didnt say "Bengali/Muslim night club".

Hey it was Black Muggers yesterday, Muslims today......who knows it might be the Jews tommorrow...oh wait thats happpend already. lol

Sorry, I'm a bit weird at nights cause I don't sleep much cause of medication.

 

[SATalha]

SubhanAllah hope its nothing seriouse Akhi?

No worries i do that as well at times.

 

[Fishermans_eye]

SubhanAllah hope its nothing seriouse Akhi?

No worries i do that as well at times.

Nothing serious or permanent, thank God (swt).

Be careful, there are fascist moderators here that likes to get opportunities to lock tread. Let' not get of topic.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^ :x...anyways...maybe if i went out more and to further places I'd see it lol. Not that I WANT too but ya it doesnt bother me in the least bit. It just makes me laff at their ignorance lol. Its just as bad getting it from another Muslim...like this lady who works wit my aunt and she was asking me all sorts of questions like she is really ignorant =/. saying like wat if ur husband makes u take it off and Allah never said to be this "extreme." She called my hijab extreme! Imagine that >.< Just cuz i refused to expose jewelry wit my hijab. My aunt owns one so we were lookin at some and my aunt was saying u can wear it wit ur hijab...and i said no lol. Basically she asked me all these questions while my aunts and my MOM werent with me lol. Silly silly lady, thought she could trap me So ya its sad when u get it from another Muslim. Ok so maybe its not racism, but it is annoying still.