Muslims request praying in Cordoba’s Cathedral

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Representatives from the Spanish Muslim community have reportedly appealed to Pope Benedict XVI to allow Muslims prostrate themselves in worship in Cordoba Cathedral, which was built as a mosque during Spain’s centuries of Islamic rule, and converted into a church in the 13th century, according to Reuters.

“What we wanted was not to take over that holy place, but to create in it, together with you and other faiths, an ecumenical space unique in the world which would have been of great significance in bringing peace to humanity,” the Spain’s Islamic Board, said in the letter.

But senior Spanish Catholic clergy rejected the Muslims requests.

Spain’s Catholic Bishops Conference argues it’s not prepared to negotiate the building’s shared use with followers of other faiths.

Muslim worshippers are usually stopped by security guards who prevent from praying inside the old Mosque.

“There are reactionary elements within the Catholic Church, and when they hear about the construction of a mosque, or Muslim teachings in state schools, or about veils, they see it as a sign that we are growing and they oppose it,” said the board’s general secretary, Mansur Escudero.

Cordoba’s Cathedral, known as the Cathedral-Mosque, was built when much of Spain was the Moorish territory of Al-Andalus, a major centre of Islamic thought and architecture.

Córdoba, now the only provincial capital in Spain where the city government is controlled by a leftist coalition named Izquierda Unida, whose main component is the Communist Party of Spain, was taken by the Christians from the Muslims as part of the Reconquista in 1236.

It later became a center of activity against in remaining Islamic regions.
 
No matter what my feelings are about this. This statement by the Bishops is very hypocritical.

Spain’s Catholic Bishops Conference argues it’s not prepared to negotiate the building’s shared use with followers of other faiths.


They may have valid reasons not to share it, but to say it is because they are not ready to share with other faiths is a direct contradiction for their stated stance on wanting to be ecumenical.
 
Greetings and peace be with you sonz and Woodrow;

It seems very sad that people cannot brake down the barriers that separate them. I would hope and pray that some time in the future this will change.

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
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It's a beautiful place. I hope one day Muslims can pray there again.
 
It used to be a mosque. The most they can do is share it, if not give it back. No one would wana give away something beautiful.
 
i know this was built by muslims, but would it be permissable under islam to prostate in prayer in a cathedral full of statues, etc.?
 
i know this was built by muslims, but would it be permissable under islam to prostate in prayer in a cathedral full of statues, etc.?

No, But I believe concessions could be made so a prayer area could be designated for Muslims. I do not know the lay out of the Masjid/Cathedral but I would suspect it has 2 prayer areas.
 
well, it doesn't sound like the catholics are going to be reasonable - actually, the whole thing is ironic.
i've seen pictures of this masjid - it is very beautiful.
 
The fall of spain was a sad day in our history, but like the brother said earlier we couldnt keep it because we didnt deserve to keep it. .:cry:

Al-Andalus.. the only reason Allaah removed it from our hands was because we preferred this world over the hereafter. I really love that land, may Allaah allow us to be strong and just once again. Ameen.

Inshallah i am hoping to visit spain some time next year to visit some of these places and seeing first hand what places of beauty a real islamic civilisation can produce. Some of the achievements of the islamic civilisation are truly amazing.

It used to be a mosque. The most they can do is share it, if not give it back. No one would wana give away something beautiful.

well, it doesn't sound like the catholics are going to be reasonable - actually, the whole thing is ironic.
i've seen pictures of this masjid - it is very beautiful.

Just to put things into some kind of context, i have pasted a small section from wikipedia regarding hagia sofia

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Hagia Sophia, (the Church of) Holy Wisdom, now known as the Ayasofya Museum, is a former Eastern Orthodox church converted to a mosque in 1453 by the Turks, and converted into a museum in 1935. It is located in Istanbul, Turkey. It is traditionally considered one of the great buildings in history. Its conquest by the Ottomans at the fall of Constantinople is considered one of the great tragedies of Christianity by the Greek Orthodox faithful.

We all mourn that which we have lost, but sooner or later we have to stop the mourning and move on. Where are we building the masjids and places of beauty that future generations will look at in amazement??
 
Salaam

It is not the building that matter but the hearts that enter it.

Do we seek to pray in buiding with granduer while our hearts are in an abyss?

Is it that important to pray in such places?

Remember that even the Kaabah is man made and was destroyed by the hands of mena nd nature...So it is not important where we pray but our state of being.
 
Greetings and peace to you all

Some forty years ago I went to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is said to be the tomb of Christ. The thing that lives in my memory is groups of pilgrims of many faiths praying together at alters within the church.

I remember waiting respectfully with my Catholic group whilst a group of Orthodox Christians were saying their prayers in front of one of the alters. When they finished and moved on we took their place and prayed.

We must continue to pray for peace in our own hearts, that we are able to be more understanding of people of other faiths. There is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen, somehow we need a greater understanding of oneness despite all our differences.

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
i am looking forward to one day going here and just gonna start praying. this is a house of Allah and if the security guards want to stop me they will have to bodily carry me away because that is the only way i am stopping my salaah.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
on the plus side...

there are quite a huge number of the young people in spain coming to islam, it was after all the religion of many of their ancestors and a deen (way of life) that makes sense unlike many aspects of christian worship and faith.

there are also 800,000 muslims out of 45 million in spain, we breed faster and more people are reverting so it is only a matter of time. do the maths yourself and soon corduba and all of al-andalus will be ours again soon.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
There is a place I would love to pray but since it is under full Muslim control courtesy of the Israeli goverment, I was unable to when I tried to visit.

Actually, a non-Muslim who visits there can be kicked out if they utter a word of prayer by the Muslim authorities in charge of the site. So I think we can all relate to one another after all.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Jayda;

I have to say that I am also upset after reading your post, and I am a Catholic.

I lived in Winchester for some years, and there are signs around the city reminding us of the times Catholics and Protestants were killing each other in major battles. Over the last few centuries people of peace from both factions have gradually broken down many of the barriers that existed between them. Today Christians of many denominations in Winchester are able to pray together and work together.

Protestants will welcome Catholics into their church to share communion, but Catholics seem reluctant to welcome Protestants to the Lords table.

The only thing lacking between them is brotherly love.

Now I have to ask if Christians can progress from killing each other to praying together; why can’t Muslims and Christians pray together. There is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen; we are all created by the same God regardless of what we choose to believe.

Are the barriers in our own heart? Or does God want us to be segregated?

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith tolerance and friendship

Eric
 

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