Muslims request praying in Cordoba’s Cathedral

[Fishman]

I meant linguistically only bro



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But if they do not accept the Laws revealed to Muhammad (pbuh), they have not sumitted to God (swt).

 

[SilentObserver]

I meant linguistically only bro



:salamext:

Then why use it as a supportive arguement? The topic was not about linguistics.

 

[ManchesterFolk]

Why the Jews were called `Yahud

The Jews are the followers of Prophet Musa [Moses], who used to refer to the Tawrah for judgment. Yahud is a word that means, `repenting', just as Musa said,

Oh? Where did Moses say "Yahud" means repenting?

I am more inclined to believe the hebrew speaking jew about what "yehud" means rather than a vague islamic site.

 

[Fishman]

Then why use it as a supportive arguement? The topic was not about linguistics.

Because this off-topic argument that I probably started is about liguistics! :enough!: :enough!: :enough!:

I said that the early Jews were Muslims (therefore meaning that Muslims have just as much right to the Temple as Jews), so, naturally, somebody disagreed with me and said they were not. Then Fi-Sab joined in and said that they were by definition, since a Muslim is a person who submits to God (swt).

I would say that they were also Muslims because they believed in the first part of the Shahada, that there is no God (swt) but God (swt).

 

[SilentObserver]

Because this off-topic argument that I probably started is about liguistics! :enough!: :enough!: :enough!:

I said that the early Jews were Muslims (therefore meaning that Muslims have just as much right to the Temple as Jews), so, naturally, somebody disagreed with me and said they were not. Then Fi-Sab joined in and said that they were by definition, since a Muslim is a person who submits to God (swt).

I would say that they were also Muslims because they believed in the first part of the Shahada, that there is no God (swt) but God (swt).

I will attempt to tie this back to the topic.

Using the 'linguistically speaking' arguement does not really say anything (pardon the pun). The reality is, we all know the difference between a jew and a muslim, and we all know who we are talking about when we speak of a 'muslim'. For the sake of clarity, we all know that we are speaking of a follower of the prophet Mohammud. To often this 'linguistic arguement' is brought up as a red herring to distract from the main topic of discussion. It is a debate tactic to confuse one's opponent. An annoying one I might add.
So, let's not try to confuse the issue anymore and stick to the topic.

There are holy places that important to jews that muslims have taken and built on, christians have muslim places and built over, etc. etc. I don't think anyone is going to be giving anything back anytime soon. Ownership rules, and the rules must be respected as set out by the owner. I think there will eventually be a compromise though.