Muslims shocked to learn that crisps contain alcohol

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Good video that explains it perfectly, mashallah.
Wa Allahu A'lam.
 
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I had no idea Robitussin had so much alchohol, and that it's haram!! We use it all the time!
 
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What's Robitussin?

I can't watch the video because my internet is being ridiculously slow, but ehres a nice short article about it:

Question: In vanilla flavoring and many other flavorings there is alcohol. I am not sure of the percentage. These flavorings are used in icecream and many other processed foods and beverages. So can we eat these things?

Answered by the Fatwa Department Research Committee - chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî

Sheikh Salman al-Oadah states the following:

Alcohol is forbidden because it intoxicates. The exact percentage of alcohol in a food or beverage has no effect on the ruling. The ruling applies to the food or beverage itself taken as a whole and not to its composition. Anyway, such small percentages of alcohol generally do not have any affect on a person who consumes the product.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, then a small quantity of it is forbidden.” [Sunan al-Tirmidhî (1865), Sunan Abî Dâwûd (3681), Sunan al-Nasâ’î (5607), Sunan Ibn Mâjah (3392), and Musnad Ahmad (5648)]

As long as the food or beverage in question does not intoxicate even when large quantities are consumed, then it is not prohibited.​

The only other possible objection that might be raised against such a product is that alcohol is considered an impure substance according to many scholars. However, it is an established principle in Islamic Law that minute quantities of an impurity that are completely submerged in pure substances do not make those pure substances impure. The quantity of alcohol in such a product is generally so minute as to be effectively non-existent as far as matters of purification are concerned.

And Allah knows best.​

http://islamtoday.com/show_detail_section.cfm?q_id=165&main_cat_id=30

Whether there is a difference of opinion on the issue, I wouldn't have a clue.
 
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It's a cough syrup.

Also, while we're on the subject, is using mouthwash halal? It has alcohol in it, quite a bit, i think, but we're not swallowing it. Well, we shouldn't be.:P Anyone know?
 
Greetings,

It's easy to see why there's disagreement over this.

Malaikah said:
Remember the hadith - that which intoxicates in large amounts is forbidden in small amounts.

If the crisps do not intoxicate in large amount (and I don't think they do), then they are not haram in small amounts.
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Using equally valid logic, with the same hadith:

If the alcohol (found in crisps) intoxicates in large amounts (which it does), then, according to the hadith, it is forbidden in small amounts.

:?

Peace
 
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czgibson said:
If the alcohol (found in crisps) intoxicates in large amounts (which it does), then, according to the hadith, it is forbidden in small amounts.
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Yeh, a lot of people actually get confused like that!

But the thing is - the hadith is referring to the thing as a whole, not the stuff in it. Get what I mean?

Because the food itself isn't alcohol, the alcohol just makes up part of it. The food is the crisps. You look at the crisps- can they ever make someone drunk? No? Then they are halal.

Even look at it logically speaking - during the Prophets time they didn't have molecular science that can tell them if there is any alcohol in the food!

Now, lastly, the act of putting alcohol in food - even if it is a tiny bit (like in these crisps) is not allowed. It is a sin. But eating it is permissible.
 
Ahhhh, it makes so much more sense now. Thank you!
"you must spread some reputation around before giving it to Malaikah again." ;)
 
Malaikah said:
It is permissible provided that the amount of alcohol let in it is insignificant - i.e. not enough to make you drunk no matter how much you drink.

However it isn't something that would be your first preference.
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no actually thats not true, alchohol is not naturally formed in crisps - ITS added so it haraam , in bread its naturally formed so thats not haraam

its not about whether it would make you drunk
 
crayon said:
It's a cough syrup.

Also, while we're on the subject, is using mouthwash halal? It has alcohol in it, quite a bit, i think, but we're not swallowing it. Well, we shouldn't be.:P Anyone know?
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Mouthwash isnt forbidden because you are actually just gurgling it and spitting it out...you are not drinking it...
 
Malaikah said:
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Whether there is a difference of opinion on the issue, I wouldn't have a clue.
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:wasalamex

I think there is. I believe shaykh al-Albanee (rahimahullaah) opposed this view, as I have read it in his book at-tasfiyah wat-tarbiyyah. InshaaAllaah I'll fish my book out later and post up the daleel he gave.
 
If there was a small doubt wouldnt it better to avoid it , i mean surely we arent going to die(ok some might) if we didnt eat these crisps...there are other alternatives....i will certainly not eat them...better for the hips anyway...:zip:
 
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You say that Noora, but you'd be surprised to know how many food actually have traces of alcohol in them. :uuh:
 
mailakah..every food item that has added alcohol into it i will avoid no matter how many items there is...im very particular about these things...doesnt matter whether i like it or not...its not up to me...
 
That's not my point - the point is that you maybe very well already be eating many products that contain alcohol and don't even know it.
 
Greetings,

The crisps that have been listed are all delicious - I can see why Malaikah is holding out on this one! (Just kidding. :D)

Malaikah said:
Yeh, a lot of people actually get confused like that!
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Inevitably, yes. :)
But the thing is - the hadith is referring to the thing as a whole, not the stuff in it. Get what I mean?
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I do see what you mean; your interpretation certainly relies on that being true. Could you explain how you know that it is referring to whole things rather than parts? I assume it's indicated somehow in the Arabic?
Because the food itself isn't alcohol, the alcohol just makes up part of it. The food is the crisps. You look at the crisps- can they ever make someone drunk? No? Then they are halal.
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That seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Even look at it logically speaking - during the Prophets time they didn't have molecular science that can tell them if there is any alcohol in the food!
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Which does lead to the question of why, whenever a new product is found to contain haraam content, many Muslims will then stop using it, even if its inclusion is otherwise unnoticeable.

Peace
 
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Just a quick reminder brothers and sisters:

On the authority of Al-Hasan bin Ali, the grandson of the messenger of Allah, who said : I memorized from the messenger of Allah his saying :

"Leave that which makes you doubt for that which does not make you doubt."

narrated by Tirmithi and Nasaee, and Tirmithi said it is true and fine hadith.
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czgibson said:
The crisps that have been listed are all delicious - I can see why Malaikah is holding out on this one! (Just kidding. :D)
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lol no, I've never even heard of these 'crisps' (we actually call them chips...)

I do see what you mean; your interpretation certainly relies on that being true. Could you explain how you know that it is referring to whole things rather than parts? I assume it's indicated somehow in the Arabic?
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I don't know, actually. It's how my teacher (a qualified shaykh) explained, as well as many other shaykhs.

Which does lead to the question of why, whenever a new product is found to contain haraam content, many Muslims will then stop using it, even if its inclusion is otherwise unnoticeable.
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Well, sometimes it is justified (for example, if the product had 5% alcohol, that's way too much), some times it may be ignorance (for example, many of us are taught that alcohol is forbidden but it was only a year or so ago that I learned that it was permissible to eat food that contained alcohol as long as the food itself can never make you drunk), other times it could be because there is a difference of opinion (such as one of the brothers posting that because the alcohol has been added artificiality, the food can't be eaten no matter how little alcohol there is).
 

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